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🦋 | 15 | 3.71% | |
🦇 | 115 | 28.47% | |
🪰 | 12 | 2.97% | |
🐦 | 67 | 16.58% | |
dragonfly | 94 | 23.27% | |
🦟 | 14 | 3.47% | |
🐝 | 87 | 21.53% | |
Total: | 404 votes |
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I can understand not liking this war, it sucks a lot, but what I can’t understand is anyone not liking this thread. I just don’t get it. e:
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 05:11 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 03:08 |
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people spun up by warlust and/or propaganda coming into the thread and having their say has been really amusing and interesting, and I appreciate the fact that I do not have to see violence or gore posted without explicit warning.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 05:16 |
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 05:21 |
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Военный Осведомитель posted:
Mango ammo being phased out in favor of Lead ammo. Военный Осведомитель posted:Interestingly, back on November 2 last year, Sevastopol Governor Mikhail Razvozzhayev, at a meeting with Vladimir Putin, suggested creating unmanned maritime vehicles based on city enterprises, such as Sevmorzavod. If we summarize today's attack on the Ukrainian bridge in the Odessa region and this news, it is possible that the development of domestic sea-based kamikaze drones was given a go-ahead in the fall. The drone used in the attack on the Zatoka bridge may have been derived off of the drones that were captured in Sevastopol.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 05:26 |
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Turtle Watch posted:I can understand not liking this war, it sucks a lot, but what I can’t understand is anyone not liking this thread. I just don’t get it. It's pretty easy to understand. If you assume this war is literally the equivalent of fighting Nazi Germany (where Nazi Germany is Russia and they're going to literally genocide all Ukrainians), then any position other than outright enthusiastic support for Ukraine is profoundly immoral.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 05:27 |
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Danann posted:(from t.me/milinfolive/96822, via tgsa) Which are in turn, the British and American mine clearing ones that made their debut in… BALTOPS22, when Nordstream and possibly Crimea rehearsals took place. Ytlaya posted:It's pretty easy to understand. If you assume this war is literally the equivalent of fighting Nazi Germany (where Nazi Germany is Russia and they're going to literally genocide all Ukrainians), then any position other than outright enthusiastic support for Ukraine is profoundly immoral. lol I mean you’re right that they seem to think that but jfc imagine that reading of the situation
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 05:29 |
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Turtle Watch posted:I can understand not liking this war, it sucks a lot, but what I can’t understand is anyone not liking this thread. I just don’t get it. easy op, peace trolls
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 05:30 |
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Frosted Flake posted:Which are in turn, the British and American mine clearing ones that made their debut in… BALTOPS22, when Nordstream and possibly Crimea rehearsals took place. I think the mine clearers are the submersible cylindrical ones.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 05:37 |
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OctaMurk posted:aint nobody playin World of Peacecraft, Peace Game: European Deescalation or World in Peace tho On the other hand, no one's singing War Train
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 05:42 |
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lolling as i watch a group chat slip into fascism
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 06:07 |
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 06:07 |
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Corky Romanovsky posted:lolling as i watch a group chat slip into fascism Is this like when Fred Christ Trump 'accidentally' attended a KKK rally in Queens?
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 06:09 |
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Danann posted:(from t.me/milinfolive/96822, via tgsa) It makes they were still throwing "mangos" cconsidering the Ukrainian armor they have bene facing. The heaviest tank the Ukrainians have is a T-80 with relaitvely older reactive armor. The Svinets 2 was simply in reserve. quote:
I wonder how much that drone program had cost from the beginning.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 06:11 |
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Horseshoe theory posted:Is this like when Fred Christ Trump 'accidentally' attended a KKK rally in Queens? might be on the verge of something like that I think someone bought an artillery shell message
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 06:13 |
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afaik it doesn't have a mine clearing function.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 06:27 |
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Danann posted:(from t.me/milinfolive/96822, via tgsa) Are the oranges used in this new tank ammo organically grown? I like my munitions to be ethically sourced.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 07:18 |
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mmm...mango.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 07:56 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=live?Y3gEJPc3Zl8&t=2436s this guy always makes me laugh "these are mediocrities from the baltics"
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 08:01 |
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GlassElephant posted:This shows a completely different location than the twitter thread counting the armour losses. This is along a road, and the vehicles in the pictures were in the middle of a field. Are they thinking about a different twitter thread? Is there a part of the video where the tanks drive out of the field they forgot to attach? They also seem to have cut the video right after it shows artillery hitting the area observed. shut the gently caress up retard
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 08:10 |
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takes a lot of guts to stand up to the woke mobsters by calling them retard, you're very brave
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 08:12 |
indigi posted:takes a lot of guts to stand up to the woke mobsters by calling them retard, you're very brave Horizon Burning posted:shut the gently caress up retard
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 08:37 |
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speng31b posted:heres my hottest take, war is super bad. do less war and do more peace imo How about...no??
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 09:35 |
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Ytlaya posted:How about...no?? Samantha Power is a goon?!
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 09:56 |
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Grognan posted:people spun up by warlust and/or propaganda coming into the thread and having their say has been really amusing and interesting, and I appreciate the fact that I do not have to see violence or gore posted without explicit warning. it's fun when they pop in and do an "he was just political"-oopsie and it prompts the people posting excerpts from books and stuff in response, which i appreciate greatly
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 10:47 |
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Turtle Watch posted:I can understand not liking this war, it sucks a lot, but what I can’t understand is anyone not liking this thread. I just don’t get it. Everybody loves this thread. Some of that love is just tsundere.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 10:54 |
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https://twitter.com/Xeno_GOODENOUGH/status/1624008935660298240 although given these days i'm pretty sure there are people who would happily call themselves kautskyists
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 10:57 |
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indigi posted:woke mobsters lol i feel like this had to have been a cumtown bit at some point
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 10:59 |
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GlassElephant posted:This shows a completely different location than the twitter thread counting the armour losses. This is along a road, and the vehicles in the pictures were in the middle of a field. Are they thinking about a different twitter thread? Is there a part of the video where the tanks drive out of the field they forgot to attach? They also seem to have cut the video right after it shows artillery hitting the area observed. those Russian tanks drove into the minefield on purpose
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 11:00 |
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Finally found a good editorial on the war from the mainstream news: SOCIOLOGY OF EVIL: WHY UKRAINE’S NEW LANGUAGE OF WAR USES TOLKIEN’S METAPHOR TO EXPRESS RUSSIAN BRUTALITY https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/syndicated/sociology-evil-ukraines-new-language-war-uses-tolkiens-metaphor-express-russian-brutality/ quote:I am a big fan of J.R.R. Tolkien and his work. This admiration spans for almost a quarter of a century, however, this dedication is nothing more than a hobby without any academic aspirations. So when the Russians were starting to be called orcs after the invasion, a friend of mine half-jokingly asked me to explain the possible relevance of this metaphor in terms of Tolkien mythology. quote:
To defeat the orc we must understand the orc… quote:
Some more lore happens… quote:
This was where I started to become impressed. Anyone can call a Russian an orc but not all are ready to adapt the entirety of The Silmarillion… quote:
bingo card keeps fillin up… quote:The Ring of Power Putin: Worse than Sauron and Hitler… quote:
quote:There are other attempts to explain this: ‘Russians were always like this, throughout their entire history!’. This statement however can be either racist (i.e. the claim that Russians are genetically predisposed to sadistic tendencies) and the refusal to explain anything at all (the Russian case is unique). However, we need to understand how the Russians came to this state of inhumanity. Doesn’t quite stick the landing. Railing against orcs for pages and then trying to not sound racist at the very end. The only interesting question of the piece: how did Russians turn into orcs? The answer: I dunno lol, the end. At least there were a few paragraphs describing Melkor’s creation of the orc. I enjoyed this, this is the pinnacle of American security state nerdistry. More people need to dig down into orc lore to discover the secret of the Russian mind using the template of racist caricatures created by beloved children’s author JK Tolkien.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 11:07 |
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Turtle Watch posted:Putin: Worse than Sauron and Hitler… so true
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 11:11 |
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Turtle Watch posted:Finally found a good editorial on the war from the mainstream news: Holy poo poo. One of them actually read a book that wasn't Harry Potter.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 11:18 |
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https://twitter.com/BadSocialisms/status/1621910797340528640
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 11:20 |
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DancingShade posted:Holy poo poo. One of them actually read a book that wasn't Harry Potter. Well hard to blame Ukrainians, it is free… https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/stat...rticleshow.html Zelenskyy is proud to be Harry Potter: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=STYtrXMZ2v0
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 11:32 |
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Thank God his hat is labelled. I would have had no idea who it was! Now I can kick back and laugh.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 13:12 |
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Turtle Watch posted:Finally found a good editorial on the war from the mainstream news: Jesus Christ I have slightly more respect for the assholes measuring skulls; at least they were trying to use a veneer of "science" versus this idiot analyzing some British dude's "whites only please" fantasy series. DancingShade posted:Holy poo poo. One of them actually read a book that wasn't Harry Potter. HP is for when a trans man/woman makes them angry. Tolkien "the only black characters are the bad guys" is for other situations such as trying to make up pseudoscience like Russians/Chinese/Arabs are somehow not full homo sapiens. Edit: Also, ofc they only think about Tolkien's stuffy, Victorian orcs and not the kickin' rad Orks: BadOptics has issued a correction as of 14:20 on Feb 11, 2023 |
# ? Feb 11, 2023 14:03 |
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i feel like them tolkien nerds should read another book before trying to draw real world parallels, specifically the last ringbearer
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 14:24 |
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Uhmm excuse me, Russian authors are haram.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 14:28 |
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Anyway, the topic of direct NATO invovlement has come up, and in all honesty, I have a hard time seeing it happen beyond "advisors" being sent One thing you not only have the standard issue of MAD; it is actually fairly unclear what would be gained for the West at a time when almost all NATO militaries are fairly low on munitions and no where prepared for peer to peer combat. Even, the US couldn't devote more than a relatively small ground force. Arguably, this would force another mobilization on the part of Russia, but at the same time, it would be an very easy sell to the public all things considered. Also, to be honest, neither the UK or Germany have a ground force ready for serious operations, and the Polish military is still under-equipped at this point and probably needs years for new systems to arrive much let have those systems be properly integrated into their armed forces. I don't think France or Italy would be that interested in sending serious forces (even if they could). (And Greece and Turkey specifically has other fish to fry). The rest of Europe has defensive minded forces. Even if was just fighter craft, Russia's air defense strategy has already been conservative, and Western aircraft would have to deal with Russian AD along with still potent Russian capabilities in the air. If Western jets pushed over the front line would unavoidably have to take losses while the situation on the ground would be again mostly decided by artillery. Basically, there isn't a strong skin in the game on the West's part compared to just sending weapons until the Ukrainians simply run out of manpower. ----- As far as the video and the verified losses, it is clear the Russians took at least some losses but at the same time those losses (6-8 AFVs, most of them BMPs along with a de-tracked T-72) are pretty easy to make out versus just vehicles in motion or vehicles that are simply stationary but undamaged. It isn't that the Russians didn't take any losses but when they did it was evident. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 15:32 on Feb 11, 2023 |
# ? Feb 11, 2023 14:55 |
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I think the point is that Ukraine wants it to happen, and that alone is dangerous and will become more dangerous as things progress. Russian commentators draw particular attention to the 101st and Odessa but I think placing a tripwire force there as faint accompli would be so dangerous a move that even in a Ukrainian total collapse it wouldn’t be worth it. The idea of having a peacekeeping force rapidly enter to create facts on the ground does not seem so different from Pristina Airport, and I’m sure there are senior leadership on both sides who remember that. We need Ed Sheeran commanding a recce company pronto.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 15:32 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 03:08 |
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Frosted Flake posted:I think the point is that Ukraine wants it to happen, and that alone is dangerous and will become more dangerous as things progress. I would say the issue is that trip-wire forces probably wouldn't deploy in an area unless the West has absolute air supremacy over it. Arguably, this could be the case maybe in Western Ukraine (Odessa is less clear), but I really doubt the West would send forces into an area if the Russians could contest the skies (that includes anywhere near the Belarussian/Russian borders and the frontline or Crimea etc). This may actually be acceptable on the part of the Russians since their goal is to negate the threat that Ukraine represents not to necessarily occupy every oblast, and you could argue that Ukraine would just be a moneypit at that point.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 15:37 |