What's the worst thing Dana White has ever done? Vote for as many as you want. This poll is closed. |
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End sponsorships so fighters are completely dependent on the UFC's pay | 62 | 10.56% | |
Ban elaborate entrances and custom gear unless you're a company favorite | 43 | 7.33% | |
Align himself and the UFC with Donald Trump | 53 | 9.03% | |
Abuse his wife and somehow guilt MMA media for reporting about it | 60 | 10.22% | |
Go on a homophobic, misogynist rant about Loretta Hunt and play free speech martyr thereafter | 48 | 8.18% | |
Compare pay-per-view pirates to Osama bin Laden | 40 | 6.81% | |
Argue so poorly that he somehow made Jake Paul the good guy | 46 | 7.84% | |
Allow Logan Paul to own the colors Red and Blue | 36 | 6.13% | |
Create Conor McGregor | 36 | 6.13% | |
Blackball the entire American Kickboxing Academy until they signed away lifetime likeness rights | 49 | 8.35% | |
Use Marlon Vera's daughter's medical needs for advertising, then make fans crowdfund it | 49 | 8.35% | |
Create the Power Slap League | 54 | 9.20% | |
Post your own and then vote for it | 11 | 1.87% | |
Total: | 84 votes |
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if he commits to 155 full time and builds his body without having to consider going 145, he'd take the w the next time out imo
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 19:57 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 14:03 |
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https://twitter.com/Boco_T/status/1624856769380995092
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 20:43 |
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I don't know how you could watch Volk vs Islam and come to any conclusion except that Volk is #1 pfp. How good his performance was depends a lot on how Islam's next few fights go though.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 21:22 |
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It's interesting to me how much of Islam's dominance particularly in terms of ground game decision making depends on Khabib being in the corner screaming concise instructions on what to do next
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 21:28 |
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I still can't get over how fresh Volk looked afterwards
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 21:45 |
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Brut posted:It's interesting to me how much of Islam's dominance particularly in terms of ground game decision making depends on Khabib being in the corner screaming concise instructions on what to do next I don't think that was it. Volk was really strong and slipping away from any kind of control. Islam wasn't one step ahead and simply scrambling to counter every position improvement Volk made.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 21:51 |
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kimbo305 posted:I don't think that was it. Volk was really strong and slipping away from any kind of control. Islam wasn't one step ahead and simply scrambling to counter every position improvement Volk made. Also I imagine that with Volk being so short and with a tiny neck makes takedowns and chokes that much easier to defend.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 22:25 |
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I imagine the kind of upper body wrestling Islam uses is less effective against a shirt guy with Rigby legs too. But for sure he has a comfort level getting talked through positions by Khabib.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 22:37 |
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kimbo305 posted:I don't think that was it. Volk was really strong and slipping away from any kind of control. Islam wasn't one step ahead and simply scrambling to counter every position improvement Volk made. Could be that Khabob's instructions would've gotten him that one step ahead though, if he was there, you know? We'll probably never actually find out though. Was Javier even there? I don't remember.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 22:48 |
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Brut posted:Could be that Khabob's instructions would've gotten him that one step ahead though, if he was there, you know? We'll probably never actually find out though. Was Javier even there? I don't remember. Javier was there but he doesn't seem to talk much during rounds.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 22:50 |
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COPE 27 posted:Javier was there but he doesn't seem to talk much during rounds. I wonder if its part of the language barrier - Islam speaks pretty good english but I wonder if when you're in the stress of a title fight he doesn't pick up technical instruction super well in his second language and perfers one of his crew give the instructions.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 23:01 |
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BlindSite posted:I wonder if its part of the language barrier - Islam speaks pretty good english but I wonder if when you're in the stress of a title fight he doesn't pick up technical instruction super well in his second language and perfers one of his crew give the instructions. I think it's more that Javier comes from a kickboxing background and just doesn't have the same immediate understanding of the ground game that Khabib does, though it could be a little of both.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 23:25 |
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Marching Powder posted:gently caress I'm sorry my bros who like wrestling but I loving hated these cards because of yall's part time MMA posters. It's so loving weird. It's, I don't know... The wrong attitude? Or something? To have when men are seriously trying to kill each other. I'm sure the contrast to you was pretty funny and I'm not trying to get on my high horse about the REAL FIGHTING I just find it really offputting. Apologies if my commentary of this is more about the dogshit posting than the fight. I don't really want to talk about the fight. Or maybe I do. Let's find out.... buddy if you think the wrestle posters are bad in the MMA threads, you should see them in the wrestling threads
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 23:26 |
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https://twitter.com/MMAFighting/status/1624891334560722944 Oh hey this seems relevant
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 23:34 |
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The amount of people out there saying Volk should have got the judges nod is incredible lol
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 00:03 |
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FootballFreak2 posted:The amount of people out there saying Volk should have got the judges nod is incredible lol I think most fans just don't understand what "effective grappling" is or that it's weighted equally to striking.
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 00:09 |
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I personally think of it this way Volk won the fight but he lost more rounds. Its hard for people to reconcile. I'll rewatch the fight sober because really only rounds 2 and 3 are contentious. 1, 4 and 5 were clear cut. I dont disagree with Islam being given the win and it's not a robbery or anything, it was just a loving great fight.
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 00:11 |
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Tangy Zizzle posted:Thank you thank you, 30 character limit so I cut it down to just COCAINE BEAR IN THEATRES 2 15
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 00:27 |
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Oh man I completely forgot about cocaine bear
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 00:28 |
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Marching Powder posted:Retro thread recap: UFC 200 - Part 2 This was fun as gently caress and thank you for doing it. As chaotic and ill-informed as the threads were, I absolutely miss MMA being hot enough that there were people who knew absolutely nothing about it posting about it anyway. We're almost all crusty veterans now. COPE 27 posted:I think most fans just don't understand what "effective grappling" is or that it's weighted equally to striking. I genuinely think this is becoming a big problem in MMA right now. The rules were changed to deemphasize scoring positional control in favor of damage (which I don't feel great about because it seems much more about promotional pressure for stand and bang than the health of the sport but it's already done so whatever), but the way the new rules were written, and the way they are being interpreted by the commentary teams and promoters who drive fan opinion, are all contributing to a sense that effective grappling ONLY matters if you're finishing the fight or doing damage. We're barely a week removed from a fight in Caldwell/Mikhailov where commentary was openly wondering if Darrion Caldwell holding back control and repeatedly threatening rear naked chokes was going to be enough to win a round when Nikita Mikhailov was landing hammerfists while in back control, and they were actually right, which is insane. It is at this point arguable that effective grappling ISN'T weighted equally to striking anymore, and that is a loving issue.
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 00:40 |
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BlindSite posted:I personally think of it this way Volk won the fight but he lost more rounds. It's just a shame that being on somebody's back doing a reverse fitching while an angry gremlin punches you over his shoulder repeatedly is considered winning. Hopefully Islam fights Poirier next so we can put Volk in context at 155.
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 01:03 |
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cagliostr0 posted:It's just a shame that being on somebody's back doing a reverse fitching while an angry gremlin punches you over his shoulder repeatedly is considered winning. I love Sluggin Dusty P as much as anyone, but Benny D has an 8 fight win streak and I don't want another Ferguson Situation where such a guy only gets a bunk title opportunity when he's way too old for it
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 01:12 |
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I enjoyed the fight but we need more champs staying in their own divisions for a while, I'm glad Islam is saying "I need real contenders" and not "Conor where you at" or some bullshit
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 01:12 |
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reeg posted:I was surprised that they were promoting Cocaine Bear tonight, I thought he was in hot water for slapping his wife Dana White Powder Slap Marching Powder posted:Retro thread recap: UFC 200 - Part 2 Hollandia fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Feb 13, 2023 |
# ? Feb 13, 2023 04:16 |
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This reminds me. How likely are we to see UFC 300 in 23? Would it be the 4th of July show?
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 04:35 |
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At one per month I think that’s a 2024 show…? Also re: UFC 200 retrospective, I’ve always joked about being Anderson’s biggest fan but I forgot about Dangersim lol. The guy was on another level. God bless him; It’s not like I didn’t jump when Andy speared DC in the liver and made that fight look competitive for a second.
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 04:44 |
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Shumagorath posted:At one per month I think that’s a 2024 show…? Yea 300 would be May if they kept it at 1 per month which seems likely. When is the last time they did 2 PPVs in a month?
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 04:57 |
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Marching Powder posted:Why can I feel this? The difference in wrestling was such that DC could phone his wife and kids on top of Andy while transitioning to side control. And DC's family would definitely hear a high pitch "Hello Mrs. DC, your husband is very strong!"
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 05:03 |
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Digital Jedi posted:Yea 300 would be May if they kept it at 1 per month which seems likely. This past July. 276 was Adesanya/Cannonier on the 2nd and 277 was Pena/Nunes 2 on the 30th.
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 06:02 |
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https://www.reddit.com/r/thefighterandthekid/comments/110m2gb/trigger_warning_its_the_bgl_ama/ So turns out one of Schaub's podcast producers or whatever nicknamed BGL (Big Gay Lion) had a falling out and did an AMA on Reddit and um...some interesting stuff was revealed. quote:Q - Do people show Brendan the memes that get made about him on here? Has he ever legitimately cried after watching any Changs content? quote:Q - Can you elaborate on the lying about money thing? quote:Q - Can you elaborate on what happened to Tank (a dog Brendan got) quote:He’s a covert narcissist - I’d say he’s very scared of confrontation in person and love bombs people with gifts so he seems really nice and might even apologize for specific rear end in a top hat incidents when you first becomes friends. Over time - he’s hostile af in most text exchanges and is very entitled to you getting him stuff “I need dick juice (Cialis)” “I need primo” and each of these cost me $60+ a bottle and he’d ask rudely and not offer to pay and stiff me on poo poo he said he’d pay There's more, with an allegation of Schaub using this guy to get access to roids etc. but having to parse through it all is a bit of a chore. Mekchu fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Feb 13, 2023 |
# ? Feb 13, 2023 06:31 |
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CarlCX posted:It is at this point arguable that effective grappling ISN'T weighted equally to striking anymore, and that is a loving issue. i think there's also a problem of effective defense being weighted less valuably than ineffective offence. you can stand in the middle throwing and missing but if you're slipping the punches, you'll look like you're losing despite making the dude miss and waste energy
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 08:38 |
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Josuke Higashikata posted:i think there's also a problem of effective defense being weighted less valuably than ineffective offence. Oh, yeah, just ask Bobby Green. MMA has never scored defense worth a poo poo. Also in uh-oh: I'm assuming this will be deleted in the morning and we'll never hear about it again.
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 10:32 |
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Defense is it's own reward.
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 11:22 |
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TheKingslayer posted:Defense is it's own reward. I wish it was this way in boxing so Floyd Mayweather lost a lot
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 12:41 |
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that might be the best losing performance i've ever seen in MMA. volk is on another level.
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 15:59 |
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CarlCX posted:Oh, yeah, just ask Bobby Green. MMA has never scored defense worth a poo poo. I'm guessing this is some kind of "I heard from my cousin's uncle's friend's girlfriend..." kind of situation, even immediately after the fight there was a journalist at the presser asking Islam something along the lines of "I heard you told your corner after the fight that you thought you lost", rumor mill is quick. That being said, even if it's somehow true, reminder that nothing was ever done about this: https://streamable.com/wqbnn
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 17:08 |
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https://twitter.com/danthehangman/status/1625114027235094528 Also Jack is 100% right here https://twitter.com/JackSlackMMA/status/1625121266960138240
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 17:42 |
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Brut posted:That being said, even if it's somehow true, reminder that nothing was ever done about this: ??? https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/4/26/18518683/paulo-costa-suspended-six-months-by-usada-for-prohibited-iv-use
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 17:42 |
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mewse posted:??? If I'm understanding it correctly, that suspension was specifically for doing this at UFC 212 in Rio, but this specific video is from UFC 217 in New York. I might be wrong and the suspension is for both Edit: Wait no, I just looked at the actual USADA release, they definitely mention both, so I just remembered this wrong.
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 17:58 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 14:03 |
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the volk/islam fight's at least a good example of pointing out people who think MMA is strictly a fight between people and the dude who got busted up most should lose and if they don't it's bullshit vs people who realise it's a contest where you score points against rules through the medium of punching people and poo poo. i'd never argue the rules and criteria for scoring are even great, but that's what the sport is, not just a punch up. same reason why people think a close fight can't possibly be a "49-46" or a "4-1" "5-0" and that all close fights have to be "3-2". it's totally possible to win a fight 50-45 but all of those rounds be razor close things where the defining round winning factor is a single scramble across the entire five minute round. it's quite unlikely that'd be the case. i think there was a josé aldo fight like that? maybe even the UFC 200 one that was posted about recently? but people also seem to think that if the final round is close as hell/dominant for the fighter who lost the previous 4, that means the other rounds should be re-evaluated. trying to get that point across to people is an exercise in frustration, so it's not worth trying to make the point. tl;dr - people fuckin dumb
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 21:06 |