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Mechafunkzilla posted:We already had a Fate Warriors, it's called Fate/Extella I tried playing it at some point and holy poo poo is it bad. I think it's the Musou game with the worst feeling controls I have ever played.
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Dec 31, 2022 21:59
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I only played the 2nd one, it seemed fine. As someone who doesn't know anything about Fate the story was incomprehensible, though.
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Dec 31, 2022 22:02
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Obviously decided they wanted a bigger name in Musou's than the Senran Kagura devs
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Dec 31, 2022 22:16
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Extella and Extella Link are pretty bad yeah, I think I'd sooner replay Warriors of Troy
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Dec 31, 2022 22:16
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Neither Extella game are even remotely as bad as Troy lol
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Dec 31, 2022 22:18
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Mechafunkzilla posted:I only played the 2nd one, it seemed fine. As someone who doesn't know anything about Fate the story was incomprehensible, though. Tbf that's cause it was a sequel to a series of dungeon crawlers.
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Dec 31, 2022 22:46
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That's sad extella might be my favorite non-musou musou, I dunno what your issue is with the controls I thought they were smoother and gave you more movement flexibility than actual musous, especially with that high speed dash. The game demands you use it to with how aggressive enemies are at taking over bases.
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Dec 31, 2022 22:48
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Extella's okay. It looks nice, slightly samey in that it's always just rushing and murdering, especially because most of the allies don't seem capable--it's a big babysitting job. Plus, there were only like 2 characters I like. I think I got my money's worth out of it but I don't know if I'd recommend it to others.
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Dec 31, 2022 23:07
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Extella's gameplay was just cycling really stiff-feeling special moves. The attack button and "combos" might as well have not been in the game at all. IIRC the normal combos don't even flow into the magic skills at all. It's been ages since I touched that game, so I don't remember exactly what my big issue was but I think it was because your most powerful moves had way too much startup so they just didn't combo from your normal attacks in a satisfying way at all. It was something like that.
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Dec 31, 2022 23:33
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Jack Trades posted:Extella's gameplay was just cycling really stiff-feeling special moves. The attack button and "combos" might as well have not been in the game at all. This describes at least half of the musou spinoff games as well, to be fair
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Dec 31, 2022 23:47
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From Coupons: Persona 5 Strikers for PS4 is $7.98 "New" at Gamestop. https://www.gamestop.com/video-games/products/persona-5-strikers-switch---nintendo-switch/234428.html I enjoyed it as a Musou and at that price it might be alright for someone who hasn't played Persona 5. It is still very much a continuation of the non-Royal story though.
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Jan 20, 2023 20:09
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Mechafunkzilla posted:This describes at least half of the musou spinoff games as well, to be fair Yes, most of them are bad. I haven't played a musou I enjoyed for years and years now. DW9 really loving killed the whole genre.
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Jan 20, 2023 20:12
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I thought FEW: three hopes was very good (though it's a switch exclusive so i guess you're out of luck if you're not a nintendo person)
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Jan 20, 2023 20:59
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So Steam is doing a midweek madness for some of the Koei Tecmo games. Both DW7 and DW8 Xtreme Legends are on sale. Is 7 worth going back for or should I just buy 8 again? I had it for the Vita for forever but I figure it must run better on PC than that handheld.
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Jan 29, 2023 02:13
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7 probably has the better telling of the Shu/Wei/Wu stories, but 8 is stronger mechanically and has more variety in replays. They're complementary, as long as you are in for 2 Dynasty Warriors games.
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Jan 29, 2023 02:30
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How’s D8 Empire compare to XL? Have the urge to do some dynasty warrioring again.
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Feb 11, 2023 18:39
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It's okay but XL is better.
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Feb 11, 2023 20:00
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Maybe empires just fundamentally isn't for me, but I always lose enthusiasm for that game real early, I don't think i've ever taken a campaign out of the early game yet. The gameplay is generic enough already, I think making all the battles generic as well just makes it a little too boring for me, at least the story-based games have some personality.
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Feb 11, 2023 20:28
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I'm not going to lie, the fact that 8 Empires never got english dubbing genuinely killed a lot of the fun of it for me.
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Feb 11, 2023 21:15
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BlazetheInferno posted:I'm not going to lie, the fact that 8 Empires never got english dubbing genuinely killed a lot of the fun of it for me. Oh, think I’ll stick with XL, I’m used to all the English dubs!
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Feb 11, 2023 21:36
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BlazetheInferno posted:I'm not going to lie, the fact that 8 Empires never got english dubbing genuinely killed a lot of the fun of it for me.  DW8E is fine for what it is, but doesn't really do enough to warrant playing over DW8XL, unless you really want a specific bunch of officers vs another specific bunch of officers. Or create a cursed officer and clone them so the battlefield is nothing but something as ridiculous as this guy: 
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Feb 13, 2023 15:26
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The DW8 empires DLC movesets are cool and like technically they got backported to DW8XL but they don’t have their EX moves iirc in DW8XL for whatever reason. When will the DW team quit being cowards and just give me DW gameplay for battles in a ROTK game
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Feb 13, 2023 15:54
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OneDeadman posted:The DW8 empires DLC movesets are cool and like technically they got backported to DW8XL but they don’t have their EX moves iirc in DW8XL for whatever reason. When they go back to letting you play as an officer, maybe.
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Feb 13, 2023 18:10
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ZogrimAteMyHamster posted:
One of the funniest moments I've ever had in these games was like this- I hadn't realized the option to pull create-a-characters off the internet was enabled on one of my games, and my empire was suddenly invaded by the Pony kingdom, consisting of the main cast of My Little Pony and Xu Chu of all people.
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Feb 14, 2023 04:51
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Drakenel posted:When they go back to letting you play as an officer, maybe. didnt they do that just one game ago
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Feb 14, 2023 05:35
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:didnt they do that just one game ago 13's PUK let you do it and so did the Sphere of Influence standalone PUK thing I think 14 and the NA that came after that dropped it again and were both bad tho
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Feb 14, 2023 08:11
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13 was officer based originally not that it was very good
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Feb 14, 2023 08:26
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lurksion posted:13 was officer based originally The PUK made it a lot better, but it still makes you wish you could get 10 working (or at least that was my experience).
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Feb 14, 2023 11:48
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DW8 Empires is the absolute most musou game to me. Would I call it the best, I don't know, but it's the one that I played at a time to really resonate with and making a character, picking a corner of the map and just going is top-level comfort food gaming to me. One of these days I'll actually sit down and dig 8XL, it'd be nice to have more concrete goals and mission design which I assume that provides, but it's never going to be quite the same.
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Feb 14, 2023 11:59
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Crusader Kings Musou when?
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Feb 14, 2023 12:10
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One could argue Bladestorm was an interesting experiment in that vein. Maybe if they wanted to revive the Genghis Khan line of games?(If they're even 'dead'?)
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Feb 14, 2023 12:28
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Bladestorm is really cool and I would love a game like that but...you know...good.
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Feb 14, 2023 12:58
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The problem being I wouldn't say it was 'bad'.
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Feb 14, 2023 15:36
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I’m still holding out for a Liberty or Death or Pacific Theater of Operations Musou (with whatever the musou equivalent of the war conference minigame would be)
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Feb 14, 2023 15:54
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:didnt they do that just one game ago Probably. I admittedly stopped holding out for a good one after 10 for a while and ceased paying attention, if you can forgive me for that. Something something shake my cane about games in my day.
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Feb 14, 2023 16:36
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kirbysuperstar posted:13's PUK let you do it and so did the Sphere of Influence standalone PUK thing Unfortunately, this one isn't available in the North American Steam region (unlike earlier RTK and NA titles that also didn't get an English localization for PC), but it's available in Japanese on the Nintendo Switch if you're able to import.
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Feb 15, 2023 00:53
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drat, that sounds cool but my Japanese knowledge is limited to like, numbers so it'd be pretty rough to play. Also get Gust to do a remake of Uncharted Waters 2.
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Feb 15, 2023 01:15
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A musou game set in the Mediterranean would be pretty cool imho (not warriors of Troy we don’t talk about that here)
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Feb 15, 2023 02:41
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haunted bong posted:A musou game set in the Mediterranean would be pretty cool imho (not warriors of Troy we don’t talk about that here) a good version of that game would be nice, but even better would be to invite all the legendary generals and warriors of the Mediterranean together for one big party. I'm talking Achilles vs Julius Caesar, Hannibal vs Belisarius, Cleopatra vs Remus, just get completely nuts with it
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Ainsley McTree posted:a good version of that game would be nice, but even better would be to invite all the legendary generals and warriors of the Mediterranean together for one big party. I'm talking Achilles vs Julius Caesar, Hannibal vs Belisarius, Cleopatra vs Remus, just get completely nuts with it 
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