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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:It makes sense since they regard the Emperor as false, therefore they are loyal to a bad cause. They're proud of being disloyal to a false emperor. You can't be disloyal to a ruler that isn't legitimate.
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The Word Bearers know that they're traitors. Betrayal is a holy act.
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lonelylikezoidberg posted:You can't be disloyal to a ruler that isn't legitimate. You can, it just changes whether or not disloyalty is cool and good.
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IshmaelZarkov posted:Now the Siege is almost ended, is it worth reading through all of it, or should I just jump on a wiki before the Death and the End? All of it, no. Find a reading guide and hit the high points. There are some excellent books in the series, but the lows are very bad.
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Expectations for the Abnett siege are probably irrationally high but I have full faith Abnett will ram a masterpiece through my skull. Haven't been this excited for a book since Rythm of War in the stormlight saga. Looking forward to the endless pages of discussion spoilers Is there any talk about how soon the second book will follow up?
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Mikojan posted:Is there any talk about how soon the second book will follow up? Do we even know if it was one long finished book that was split in two for release reasons? Or if the second part still needs to be written?
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CottonWolf posted:Do we even know if it was one long finished book that was split in two for release reasons? Or if the second part still needs to be written? Abnett was probably going to do an Abnett with the ending so they told him it was one book and as he was wrapping it up they said "actually it's 2, you have another 600 pages."
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People are predicting how part one ends - smart money is Horus vs Sanguinius.
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Z the IVth posted:Abnett was probably going to do an Abnett with the ending so they told him it was one book and as he was wrapping it up they said "actually it's 2, you have another 600 pages." Then Abnett resolves the ending in the first ten pages and the rest of the book is just entire pages with the words "gently caress you" copy-pasted a milion times. The Codex Astartes calls this maneuvre "pulling a Spider Jerusalem".
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Angry Lobster posted:the rest of the book is just entire pages with the words "gently caress you" copy-pasted a milion times. I like to imagine that Dan did this during the couple of years when he and Black Library management had their falling out.
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"Dan we got the manuscript for your next book but we're worried the phrase 'eat a dick' over and over again won't work with our upcoming codex minis'
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Feb 13, 2023 15:57
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It's going to be fun to see which bat poo poo insane theory comes true.
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Trast posted:It's going to be fun to see which bat poo poo insane theory comes true. This but for Bequin. That trilogy is my favourite Abnett work yet (Know No Fear is close behind though).
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DaysBefore posted:This but for Bequin. That trilogy is my favourite Abnett work yet (Know No Fear is close behind though). Hopefully good times ahead.
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Azubah posted:"Dan we got the manuscript for your next book but we're worried the phrase 'eat a dick' over and over again won't work with our upcoming codex minis'
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I'm really, really hoping for a King in Yellow tie-in. And if they're gonna wrap up John Grammaticus and his merry band of travelling eternals, i loving hope they make it count. Even if we don't deserve the former, we are abso-loving-lutely owed the latter.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:I'm really, really hoping for a King in Yellow tie-in. I'm thinking it's Dorn, possibly missing a bit or two.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:I'm really, really hoping for a King in Yellow tie-in. What if it's something really dumb like John Grammaticus deciding he will change his name to Gregor Eisenhorn and Ollanius Persson will change his name to Ibram Gaunt and then they will wipe their memories?
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What if it's something really fun like John Grammaticus deciding he will change his name to Ciaphas Cain and Ollanius Persson will change his name to Ferik Jurgen and then they will wipe their memories?
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Ok, finished Bloodlines and agree now that it's very likely a Genestealer cult. But hey, he's a cop who gets results!
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Noblesse Obliged posted:Juergen is Trazyn the Infinite in disguise. 
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Well he’s always got loads of things in his backpack. Like he collects stuff.
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A Nick Kyme novella followed by a Gav Thorpe novella? They could use this poo poo as a spike strip what with how much momentum it kills.
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Black Griffon posted:What if it's something really fun like John Grammaticus deciding he will change his name to Ciaphas Cain and Ollanius Persson will change his name to Ferik Jurgen and then they will wipe their memories? Please don't even joke about this, somewhere a monkeys paw is trembling
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Duzzy Funlop posted:I'm really, really hoping for a King in Yellow tie-in. Isnt the king in yellow stuff from the Bequin book happening at this point almost a thousand years before the current timeline? Ravor is hundreds of years before Gaunt, right? And now were a ways into M42? I mean, im on record as really disliking the last book with the king in yellow stuff, but i don't really see how it can be brought to a conclusion that affects anything outside the Abnettverse part of 40K Edit: its 40k, i guess anything can happen and time is a construct in the warp, i just find it weird nothing about those events would have spilled into the dark imperium and later books if it was planned to effect the larger plot. Nuclear War fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Feb 14, 2023 |
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Nuclear War posted:Isnt the king in yellow stuff from the Bequin book happening at this point almost a thousand years before the current timeline? Ravor is hundreds of years before Gaunt, right? And now were a ways into M42? We know Ravenor “dies badly;” it could be that they fail against the King in Yellow and the consequences of that failure aren’t really known or felt until M42.
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Yeah, it could be one of those things like the end of the Carrion Throne trilogy where we, the reader, knows how hosed up something is but the Imperium itself doesn't know that there's another shoe that'll drop. How long has the Indomitus Crusade been going on, anyhow? Because (Carrion Throne ending spoiler) the Golden Throne only had about 100 years left before it stopped working when Bobby G came through the webway portal on Luna.
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the ending of carrion throne with the inquistor walking into the meeting going "NUKE EVERYTHING THEY'RE TRYING TO CLONE THE EMPEROR" was just an a+ climax. good poo poo. Also "Our children would have been incredible" drat those books ruled.
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Yeah, they are very good books and I thank this thread for recommending them. I wonder how long it took the Mechanicum to replace the Fabricator-General.
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Preechr posted:We know Ravenor “dies badly;” it could be that they fail against the King in Yellow and the consequences of that failure aren’t really known or felt until M42. We know that Gaunt thinks he dies badly, but a lot of characters from that series faked their deaths so we don’t know what actually happened. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ravenor actually does die badly though.
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That could easily be Gaunt misremembering that Ravenor was only nearly killed in a horrific manner during the Thracian Atrocity, and there's no particular reason why a Commisar would know a ton about a former Inquisitor from quite a different Segmentum.
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Ravenor seems to be a rather influential philosophical thinker in Gaunt's day, so I guess it's kind of a "Socrates died badly" thing.
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habeasdorkus posted:That could easily be Gaunt misremembering that Ravenor was only nearly killed in a horrific manner during the Thracian Atrocity, and there's no particular reason why a Commisar would know a ton about a former Inquisitor from quite a different Segmentum. Presumably Ravenor wrote The Spheres of Longing, the work Gaunt knows him for, some time after he became an inquisitor, which would be after thracia.
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These were fun: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/02/14/in-the-grim-darkness-of-the-far-future-there-is-only-love/
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We know for a fact Nayl and other retinue members were widely believed dead long before they died (even the denouement of Hereticus gives Nayl an inaccurate death date). I have full confidence that Ravenor’s tragic death was widely reported, regardless of whether it happened or not.
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Any decent AoS novels that are good to start out with? Trying to avoid accidentally grabbing something with an extremely boring Stormcast main character.
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