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flatluigi posted:hard drives and their spinning platters If you have spinning platters still, you need to get a new hard drive.
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Cojawfee posted:If you have spinning platters still, you need to get a new hard drive. the post i quoted mentioned floppy drives and earlier posters were talking about those desks having crts in them. also we're not in the new and contemporary technology thread
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Cojawfee posted:If you have spinning platters still, you need to get a new hard drive. ?? Besides the aforementioned 'this is about 90s technology', were there hard disk drives that weren't spinning their platters? Wouldn't that categorically make it a solid state drive?
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Dicty Bojangles posted:What on earth would be the circumstances in which this would be a wise decision? I could see this making sense at a check-in counter like at a hotel or doctor's office. Use of a computer is transactional, so the amount of time looking down at it is smaller. I miss desks where the computer isn't the main character.
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Feb 13, 2023 18:30
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Moving spinny computer parts on their side is also really only a big issue if they're actively spinning when you move them. Just having them positioned at an angle or sideways during normal operation usually isn't a problem.
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Feb 13, 2023 18:43
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sirbeefalot posted:Moving spinny computer parts on their side is also really only a big issue if they're actively spinning when you move them. Just having them positioned at an angle or sideways during normal operation usually isn't a problem. Yeah I'm getting confused by the line of thinking that spinny hard drives have to be a specific orientation to spin. They don't, just don't move them when they are spinning. Stack them horizontal or vertical it doesn't matter. CRTs are a solid state radiation gun pointed at your face and thus don't care if they move even when on.
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Feb 13, 2023 18:54
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the line of conversation was 'what moving parts were even in those computers' not 'would it be dangerous to have platter drives at an angle'
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Feb 13, 2023 19:00
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Also that brains are stupid and 'computer at angle - panic!' is an overgeneralisation
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Feb 13, 2023 19:01
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Legit forgot that harddrives used to spin. I might have remembered eventually.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjnm9yVI0-Y I like the one on the right screaming in pain every time it does something
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Kamrat posted:I like the one on the right screaming in pain every time it does something More human than human.
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ishikabibble posted:I was going to say this reminds me of those desks where they put the entire monitor underneath the surface and under glass, but in going to look that up I found that... God these are ugly. This is how you put a monitor in a desk. 
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Zopotantor posted:God these are ugly. This is how you put a monitor in a desk. Is that... TRON?  EDIT: Look at this magnificent beast. https://twitter.com/PulpLibrarian/status/1625219885503594500?s=20&t=HqXFjSyQBdvDtrX4ErnrIg Dick Trauma has a new favorite as of 22:50 on Feb 13, 2023 |
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Zopotantor posted:God these are ugly. This is how you put a monitor in a desk. now that's a BATTLES STATION
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Dick Trauma posted:Is that... TRON? It's the MCP, ~actually~. 
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Feb 13, 2023 23:05
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Someone asked me to help fix someone's computer once and they didn't ell me they were nearly completely blind. I walked and there was no computer monitor on the desk or anywhere to be found. I was flabberghasted.
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Did you manage to fix it
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Kamrat posted:Did you manage to fix it I eventually did. I don't remember exactly what it was but it was a Windows XP that wouldn't boot. We had to dig the monitor out of the nearby closet. They weren't 100% blind but it was pretty bad and they used some dictation software like Dragon Naturally Speaking or some such at the time so it made sense to not have a monitor there taking up space. I was just so bewildered at the idea of talking to a computer that didn't have a "face" stand-in like a monitor. They weren't really using that space for anything though so we ended up leaving the monitor hooked up after I left. Unperson_47 has a new favorite as of 04:19 on Feb 14, 2023 |
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I've posted about him before, but many years ago there was a good who posted an "Ask me about being blind" thread and his setup was just a pair of speakers and a keyboard. He may have had a microphone too, I don't remember. EDIT: Found the thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2438897
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KakerMix posted:Yeah I'm getting confused by the line of thinking that spinny hard drives have to be a specific orientation to spin. They don't, just don't move them when they are spinning. Stack them horizontal or vertical it doesn't matter. I’ve always wondered, considering how fragile they were, how did HDDs in iPods and other full-size mp3 players not get hosed up from being moved around while playing? My old 4th Gen iPod stopped working because it no longer held a charge after years of use, but the disk was still completely fine.
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While 3.5" drives were meant to operate only in perfectly horizontal or vertical orientations, drives for laptops and smaller devices were designed to run at any angle. The actual 'how' of it I don't know offhand, but that's a start.
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TITTIEKISSER69 posted:While 3.5" drives were meant to operate only in perfectly horizontal or vertical orientations, drives for laptops and smaller devices were designed to run at any angle. The actual 'how' of it I don't know offhand, but that's a start. They are also smaller so less chance of flexing causing platters to crash on heads. It's my theory and I'm sticking to is (as someone whose very first steadicam was made using junk HDDs spun and full tilt at opposing angles)
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Humphreys posted:They are also smaller so less chance of flexing causing platters to crash on heads. Wait do you have pictures or footage of that? Sounds incredible!
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XTimmy posted:Wait do you have pictures or footage of that? Sounds incredible!
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Creature posted:I’ve always wondered, considering how fragile they were, how did HDDs in iPods and other full-size mp3 players not get hosed up from being moved around while playing? My old 4th Gen iPod stopped working because it no longer held a charge after years of use, but the disk was still completely fine. Iirc iPod software liked to quickly cache songs (even the multiple songs in the queue) so the drive wouldn’t spin nearly as often as something like a laptop drive would
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Last Chance posted:Iirc iPod software liked to quickly cache songs (even the multiple songs in the queue) so the drive wouldn’t spin nearly as often as something like a laptop drive would Not only that, but it would fill its cache with whatever songs were next in the shuffle/playlist so unless you were going a lot of flipping around, the drive wasn’t running much at all.
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TITTIEKISSER69 posted:While 3.5" drives were meant to operate only in perfectly horizontal or vertical orientations, drives for laptops and smaller devices were designed to run at any angle. The actual 'how' of it I don't know offhand, but that's a start. No HD with a voice coil driving its heads cares what angle they are when running, as long as you don’t move them around at all. 2.5” drives could take some movement due to lighter components, but they got drop/shock sensors pretty quickly and would yank the heads back to park if they sensed anything amiss. Laptops, portable media players, etc, that used spinning drives all tried to keep the heads parked and platters stopped as much as possible, both to save battery and prevent failures.
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XTimmy posted:Wait do you have pictures or footage of that? Sounds incredible! Na, this was over 10 years ago when I was in the peak of my 'Office Macgyver' phase when I worked for a production company. That moniker was even added onto my business cards which I loved as it captured the person I gave them to, so instead of 'Director Of Photography' or whatever, the receiver would be intrigued and we actually talked about my projects and got them exciting for their future projects and think of me when it's time to round up the contractors.
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AlternateAccount posted:Not only that, but it would fill its cache with whatever songs were next in the shuffle/playlist so unless you were going a lot of flipping around, the drive wasn’t running much at all. This was a very neat trick that alone extended the battery life from three hours to ten, which was just unthinkable at the time and made iPod actually viable as a product. It also allowed Steve Jobs to come on stage and proclaim "20 MINUTES OF SKIP PROTECTION!!" which, lol
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Humphreys posted:Na, this was over 10 years ago when I was in the peak of my 'Office Macgyver' phase when I worked for a production company. That moniker was even added onto my business cards which I loved as it captured the person I gave them to, so instead of 'Director Of Photography' or whatever, the receiver would be intrigued and we actually talked about my projects and got them exciting for their future projects and think of me when it's time to round up the contractors. I'm more of an 'office Pete Thornton' myself
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Yeah even platter drive MacBooks had the protection. You could trigger it by lifting the corner of the machine while it was on, you’d hear the CLICK of the heads parking ASAP. I think this was primarily a function of the device the drive qas plugged into to tho, the drives didn’t have accelerometers and such built in.
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For my very first computer, an 8086 from the mid-80s, there was a special utility program that would "park" the heads on the hard drive. You were supposed to run this program and then power off before you moved the computer. I think I remembered to actually do it maybe once. Never had a problem any of the other times I moved the thing around. Later on, I used to test if a drive had power by picking it up and gently wiggling it. If the platters were spinning, you could feel the gyro effects.
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Powered Descent posted:
I did this too! it feels cool as poo poo lol
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Dr_Strangelove posted:Suzanne Ciani with an amazing vintage synth: Here she is just about blowing up the studio on Letterman's morning show. https://twitter.com/psychotronica_/status/1626056016159821826?s=20
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Dick Trauma posted:Here she is just about blowing up the studio on Letterman's morning show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWkJ86JqlPA
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Powered Descent posted:Later on, I used to test if a drive had power by picking it up and gently wiggling it. If the platters were spinning, you could feel the gyro effects. I parked heads could also sometimes stick to the platters if left to sit too long, and this is how you could get them loose if the motor couldn’t spin them free.
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https://twitter.com/curious_marc/status/1627055884265472001 It's so satisfying to watch.
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Imagining if Marc wasn't curious. 
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ishikabibble posted:https://twitter.com/curious_marc/status/1627055884265472001 For real. Someone make this my screensaver, audio included.
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