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| metis |
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5 | 7.04% |
| Metis! |
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16 | 22.54% |
| Me, tis |
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18 | 25.35% |
| emits |
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14 | 19.72% |
| Hydrossity |
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18 | 25.35% |
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If there's a team contest for timing button presses I'm not picking any of the people who mysteriously dislike an optional component to make combat fun
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Feb 14, 2023 08:02
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Barudak posted:I dont know what a Hashamal is in Gundam but its my favorite thing in the setting cause its so OP I cant beat it solo in any of the story missions it appears and must beg for online help to win. i hope you get permabanned
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Feb 14, 2023 08:03
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I stand with barudak
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Feb 14, 2023 08:16
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Khanstant posted:If there's a team contest for timing button presses I'm not picking any of the people who mysteriously dislike an optional component to make combat fun I suggest that, if you need timed button presses to make turn based combat fun, you should simply play a different genre
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Feb 14, 2023 08:17
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Barudak posted:Did not like this game, did not play any subsequent titles in the series. hosed up if true https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THO1NqIdfVI
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Feb 14, 2023 08:18
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input timing is like ATB, something that people subjectively think makes the game better because they're playing a boring game and an action element makes it more engaging for them but, is really just set dressing camouflage that makes mediocre RPGs materially worse. struggle to think of a game that is actually, made better with timed inputs, the mario games at least are maybe a little more thematic for it
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Feb 14, 2023 08:25
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everyone likes parrying in sekiro but when Mario and Luigi do it it's uncool for some reason
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Feb 14, 2023 08:25
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Mario and Luigi can’t even mikiri
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Feb 14, 2023 08:27
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homeless snail posted:input timing is like ATB, something that people subjectively think makes the game better because they're playing a boring game and an action element makes it more engaging for them but, is really just set dressing camouflage that makes mediocre RPGs materially worse. struggle to think of a game that is actually, made better with timed inputs, the mario games at least are maybe a little more thematic for it the mario rpg special attack minigames own https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXhHHE-oDYs atb sucks rear end
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Feb 14, 2023 08:30
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ffx-2 uses atb and it's the best rpg ever made. checkmate, liberals
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Feb 14, 2023 08:33
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switching from ctb to atb is the only bad part about x-2. ctb was a goated ff battle system
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Feb 14, 2023 08:34
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Active time battles. Active time
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Feb 14, 2023 08:34
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atb is fine in theory just every game that uses it moves far too slowly. this is due to the fact that the core jrpg audience is composed of weak gamers who would fold under any real time pressure. turn based is good too but, like chess without a clock, on some level fundamentally cowardly. the player abdicates any real stress in pursuit of a meaningless perfection. even the illusion of pressure is too much to bear. in conclusion, real time with pause wins again
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Feb 14, 2023 08:38
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thats right. ff12 is the best ff, scientifically speaking
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Feb 14, 2023 08:39
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I feel confident in saying, pathfinder kingmaker would be absolute garbage if they didn’t have a turn-based mode.
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Feb 14, 2023 08:40
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homeless snail posted:input timing is like ATB, something that people subjectively think makes the game better because they're playing a boring game and an action element makes it more engaging for them but, is really just set dressing camouflage that makes mediocre RPGs materially worse. struggle to think of a game that is actually, made better with timed inputs, the mario games at least are maybe a little more thematic for it Shadow Hearts 2 uses timed inputs and is like the second best JRPG ever
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Feb 14, 2023 08:41
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Jay Rust posted:I feel confident in saying, pathfinder kingmaker would be absolute garbage if they didn’t have a turn-based mode.
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Feb 14, 2023 08:53
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i've never played any game with atb or whatever it is, only regular turn-based stuff like pokemon, but i feel like i hate turn-based combat enough that i would really hate whatever atb is trying to do
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Feb 14, 2023 08:53
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Kerrzhe posted:i've never played any game with atb or whatever it is, only regular turn-based stuff like pokemon, but i feel like i hate turn-based combat enough that i would really hate whatever atb is trying to do
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Feb 14, 2023 09:01
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homeless snail posted:its literally the same thing except if you take too long to press a button the enemy interrupts you and takes their turn first. very cool concept that seemed like it was breaking the rules, on the snes, but it stuck around for far too long for something that doesn't really bring much to the table. its not really a mechanic that you can interact with other than, needing to decide what you're doing in advance so you can quickly choose it. none of the games that used it though had complicated enough combat mechanics that you need to spend much time thinking about your turn this is grandia erasure
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Feb 14, 2023 09:07
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EightFlyingCars posted:this is grandia erasure Grandia actually does something with its mechanism, which is what ATB wishes it was.
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Feb 14, 2023 09:37
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Dagoth Ur AI Voice memes are both the dumbest and best things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttMrS9VZHUk
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Feb 14, 2023 09:40
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Relax Or DIE posted:atb is fine in theory just every game that uses it moves far too slowly. this is due to the fact that the core jrpg audience is composed of weak gamers who would fold under any real time pressure. So what I'm hearing is that Baten Kaitos is in fact the perfect rpg
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Feb 14, 2023 09:45
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And that's River City Girls 2 completed! Man that final boss was nothing compared to Marian, you were definitely right about the inverse difficulty Mode 7.
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Feb 14, 2023 10:08
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Infinitum posted:Dagoth Ur AI Voice memes are both the dumbest and best things This one is my personal favorite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNipoNLC6Eg
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Feb 14, 2023 11:27
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Sakurazuka posted:Shadow Hearts 2 uses timed inputs and is like the second best JRPG ever The one with the pupetmaster creeper party member?
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Feb 14, 2023 13:23
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My favorite is still Dagoth Ur knocking at your door, but that didn’t use AI.
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Feb 14, 2023 13:55
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ATB is fine. You know what isn't? Press turns
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Feb 14, 2023 14:10
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Arzaac posted:So what I'm hearing is that Baten Kaitos is in fact the perfect rpg yup
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Feb 14, 2023 14:11
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I like Live A Live's combat, I don't know where that falls.
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Feb 14, 2023 14:12
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AceOfFlames posted:This one is my personal favorite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKLk7ZozZQ8
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Feb 14, 2023 14:35
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A Cup of Ramen posted:And that's River City Girls 2 completed! Man that final boss was nothing compared to Marian, you were definitely right about the inverse difficulty Mode 7. The bosses are all fun fights thematically and ooze personality, but on Normal at least it really is harder to easier lol. I wonder if they'd scale properly on Hard. Regardless, the soundtrack composed by Megan McDuffee slaps and everyone should listen to it even if you don't play the game.
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Feb 14, 2023 14:37
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its so hosed up that I can picture the outfit perfectly in my mind
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Feb 14, 2023 14:41
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redreader posted:If you're talking about the old space hulk PC game, I played that a bit when it came out. It is too luck-based, as you said. I think the only option would be to savescum (iirc that would involve file system copies etc), because after surviving a mission or two a marine will level up and be more likely to melee hit, and kill a genestealer. If you had a fully leveled party it would be easier. I think I only ever got about five missions in before I gave up, but started from the beginning a bunch of times. I'm talking about the PS4 Space Hulk game. It seems to have no RPG elements of any kind Gripweed posted:After like three months, it has finally arrived
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Feb 14, 2023 14:49
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Barudak posted:I dont know what a Hashamal is in Gundam but its my favorite thing in the setting cause its so OP I cant beat it solo in any of the story missions it appears and must beg for online help to win. That is extremely appropriate for the Hashmal. It's literally a war crimes machine, and in the series beating it required them to do some bad stuff
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Feb 14, 2023 14:52
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Sakurazuka posted:Shadow Hearts 2 uses timed inputs and is like the second best JRPG ever Shadow Hearts 2 was my jam. I loved that crazy spinning poo poo
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Feb 14, 2023 14:59
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today its my birthday and i hereby decree: today is the day i beat wario land 3
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Feb 14, 2023 15:26
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Atomic Heart taking pot shots at Hogwarts Legacy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB7abXC2PDA
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Feb 14, 2023 15:28
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centristly: timed hits are good when thoughtfully woven into the overall mechanics but some people think they're just an inherent good bc people liked paper mario and make YIIK
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Feb 14, 2023 15:29
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classic ATB is whatever but it eventually inspired FF7R's combat so actually it's really good
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Feb 14, 2023 15:35
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