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Sekenr posted:Huh? Can you give an example for any of that?  https://www.bruegel.org/dataset/european-natural-gas-imports Russian gas exports volume has been stable for something like 6 months, to have some numerical context. In general, I'd like to remind you how Germany and friends kept blocking price cap on Russian gas until Christmas. Or how we had the whole decorum theatre with rouble payments, the point of which was to present either EU or Russia as the bad faith actor for the purposes of a WTO dispute or similar international court action. Looking from another angle, an easy – effortless in fact – way to prove many examples to the contrary would be to find all those cases of EU countries formally breaking their Gazprom or Novatek contracts. Or defaulting on payments due to Russia for gas. Or, you know, passing all those European sanctions/rules/laws prohibiting to pay Russia for gas. Spoiler: https://yle.fi/a/3-12672379 it's like this basically in every European country except Baltics, Poland, and UK, at least as recently as of October.
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Rinkles posted:You think he's genuinely oblivious? More like his default assumptions were formed during the Cold War while working as a KGB agent.
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Rinkles posted:You think he's genuinely oblivious? He was fairly consistent in his messaging and implementation of stated goals. I see no reason to assume that his views on history or on what constitutes an international superpower are not genuine.
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https://wartranslated.com/pravda-com-ua-interview-ukrainian-colonel-oleh-faydyuk/ An interview with colonel Oleh Faydyuk, Commander of the 45th Separate Artillery Brigade. This is a unit of towed artillery and anti-tank teams that did not really exist before the war and was rapidly built up during the early part of the conflict.
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Slashrat posted:Maybe they think they can broker a peace that includes Russia getting to keep what it has taken, to set a precedence for when they eventually try the same with Taiwan? Or maybe it's just kayfabe to be able to say they tried while offering no practical solution. I don't think China wants that because the whole thing about Taiwan is that they are trying to make a big song and dance about national sovereignty within recognized borders, which extends further to Tibet and Xinjiang. Even America doesn't really consider Taiwan to be a true, independent nation, officially anyway. Russia's behaviour really destabilizes this talking point and is almost certainly very frustrating from the Chinese point of view, they are openly and crudely trying to flout international law and long standing agreements about Ukrainian sovereignty with their blatant annexation of parts of the country and attempts to impose their will on a fully recognized independent nation. Absolutely nobody can argue with a straight face that Ukraine either de jure or de facto is just a breakaway province of a Russian whole in a way they might for Taiwan. If they are seen to be abetting Russia in this it absolutely sinks 90% of the Chinese talking points about Taiwan and dismissal of western criticism about how it treats groups like the Uighurs as being extremely inappropriate foreign interference in internal Chinese affairs. Like if Russia is allowed to invade Ukraine to protect the supposedly trampled rights of Russian speakers there, is America allowed to interfere in Xinjiang to its heart's content to protect the Uighurs there? And that doesn't even get into the fact that the war has given NATO a new leash on life and if the worst comes to pass could destabilize Russia and the extremely long frontier they share. khwarezm fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Feb 14, 2023 |
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cinci zoo sniper posted:https://www.ft.com/content/3d3c9102-b8ef-4b1c-a8dc-6c844de71981 This makes Ukraine/NATO's ammunition situation sound much worse than basically anything else reported thus far. The whole big rear end NATO meeting sounds like it's going to be about how to make ammo. The article is locked, could you post it?
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https://www.ft.com/content/3fd6e91f-71e4-4c02-9360-be20a2a78763 Ammo and air defence pledges expected today, on the opening day of NATO defence ministers summit. In that context, golden bubble's piece is informative:golden bubble posted:https://wartranslated.com/pravda-com-ua-interview-ukrainian-colonel-oleh-faydyuk/ quote:(I): How do you assess the role of Western weapons in this war? Would Ukraine be able to defend itself or counterattack without Western weapons?
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golden bubble posted:https://wartranslated.com/pravda-com-ua-interview-ukrainian-colonel-oleh-faydyuk/ Great interview and worth the read if you're at all interested in how artillery works. The best quotation by far was, "according to the charter of the artillery of the US field army, there is no firing at a target that is not observed. The bourgeois know how to count money, and they calculated that this is very expensive."
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Charlz Guybon posted:The article is locked, could you post it? https://archive.is/Z1yxE quote:Nato is in ammunition race against Russia in Ukraine, says Stoltenberg
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Ynglaur posted:The best quotation by far was, "according to the charter of the artillery of the US field army, there is no firing at a target that is not observed. The bourgeois know how to count money, and they calculated that this is very expensive." Quote of the year, lmao. Absolutely brilliant.
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How the gently caress can Border Patrol leak what is surely classified information like this? Lots of speculation within the article over whether this guy has knowledge of Blackjack bombers being retrofitted for hypersonic missiles. https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1625418967329144832 quote:A Russian military bomber engineer drove up to the U.S. Southwest border in late December, asking for asylum and offering to reveal some of Russia’s most closely guarded military secrets, according to an unclassified Customs and Border Protection report obtained by Yahoo News.
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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > War in Ukraine: They calculated that this is very expensive
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Groda posted:The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > War in Ukraine: The bourgeois calculated that this is very expensive
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cinci zoo sniper posted:U.S. Embassy in Russia has posted the third “get out” warning. Last 2 were in February and September (mobilization). https://ru.usembassy.gov/travel-advisory-russia-do-not-travel-february-12-2023/ the article posted:The total manpower of both countries’ armed forces is 89,000, of whom 24,000 are Dutch.
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All Germany need is a showroom force for military industrial complex and some NATO force capabilities. They have zero threats closeby and no desire for overseas adventures.
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That's just the Heer. The Bundeswehr is larger.
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Bundeswehr is about 183k active, 29k reserve as of 2022 according to Wikipedia
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Groda posted:The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > War in Ukraine: They calculated that this is very expensive aka. Natoleon at Austeritlitz
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Nenonen posted:aka. Natoleon at Austeritlitz The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > War in Ukraine: Natoleon at Austeritlitz
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Moldova has temporarily closed its air space. https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...0on%20Facebook. Hopefully just a bit of precautionary paranoia.
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U.S. are saying that a significant wrinkle in supplying ATACMS to Ukraine is that Americans don't think they've got enough of them for themselves. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/13/u-s-wont-send-long-range-missiles-ukraine-00082652
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cinci zoo sniper posted:U.S. are saying that a significant wrinkle in supplying ATACMS to Ukraine is that Americans don't think they've got enough of them for themselves. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/13/u-s-wont-send-long-range-missiles-ukraine-00082652 Concerns about China are absolutely impacting Ukraine. Japan recently agreed to purchase 500 Tomahawk missiles. I think Ukraine is making everyone realize just how much ammunition modern warfare takes, even with precision munitions. Until (unless?) industry ramps up, Ukraine is going to face limits.
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NYT posted some freeze frames of a Russian anti tank missile being fired at Pete Reed and other aid workers. The bodies are censored but : : just in casehttps://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/14/world/europe/russian-attack-aid-worker-video.html It's sort of darkly comical to have the missile pointed out with a label. Ukraine is barring aid workers from entering the city now: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-bakhmut-aid-volunteers.html If the Ukrainians withdraw, I hope the civilians still manage to stay safe in a difficult situation. The article has a link to a WSJ photo of the same scene where the car marked with the red cross can be seen: https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/russia-claims-gains-in-battle-for-bakhmut-11675331393 WarpedLichen fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Feb 14, 2023 |
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War in Ukraine: Aid Workers <------ Missile
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Ynglaur posted:Concerns about China are absolutely impacting Ukraine. Japan recently agreed to purchase 500 Tomahawk missiles. I think Ukraine is making everyone realize just how much ammunition modern warfare takes, even with precision munitions. Until (unless?) industry ramps up, Ukraine is going to face limits. As a former professional, what is your opinion of the odds that the Ukrainians (or anyone else) being able to shift away from attrition style warfare without air superiority and the ability for aircraft to support Ukrainian attacks? Last month Reuters had an article citing Pentagon officials trying to get the Ukrainians to stop attrition style fights like Bakhmut and to try and husband resources for counter offensives with a specific focus on trying to 'match Russia shell for shell' which was unsustainable for stockpiles. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-officials-advise-ukraine-wait-offensive-official-says-2023-01-20/ I am wondering what this shift looks like when the Ukrainians have to fight without the typical air dominance US forces typically expect in battle given that the Ukrainians don't have the aircraft and even if they do, the Russian air defense network appears to remain dominate. Like if we plopped a US division down in Ukraine right now and asked to fight, how much would no air support hamper your ability to fight an offensive on a theoretical level?
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DTurtle posted:You can always go to https://archive.is and post the link there: Makes me think of a recent Perun video. Focusing on NATOs supply is missing the idea that there are other places to get eg shells from. He spoke at length about numbers from eg Australia, New Zealand and South Korea amongst others. This reduces the issue but obviously it still exists.
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Sad Panda posted:Makes me think of a recent Perun video. Focusing on NATOs supply is missing the idea that there are other places to get eg shells from. He spoke at length about numbers from eg Australia, New Zealand and South Korea amongst others. This reduces the issue but obviously it still exists. Well, it's kind of to be expected that the head of NATO would be focusing primarily on NATO's ability to deal with the situation. But beyond that I suspect his statement is probably true for everybody sending supplies to Ukraine - as is pretty usual peacetime stockpiles and production are proving vastly inadequate to wartime consumption, and "every Western-aligned nation sending supplies" can only go so far when a bunch of those countries are reconsidering how much they need their own stockpiles in the event of war due to Ukraine's example. Not to mention that while NATO and Europe would be mostly happy to send things on to Ukraine for cheap or free as part of degrading Russian power and ensuring their own national security, countries further away like South Korea may want to present a bill instead since it's less directly relevant to their interests, and Ukraine already has plenty of demands on its budget. Fakeedit: Looking it up, apparently South Korea specifically has specifically stated that any aid to Ukraine is going to be nonlethal. They may be willing to backfill allied stockpiles who're sending their poo poo on to Ukraine, but they're apparently concerned that getting too involved might lead to the Russians trying to convince North Korea to get froggy and that's obviously and understandably a lot more important to South Korea.
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Lviv – A Hospital in Wartime In March 2022, the war between Ukraine and Russia is raging. While Russian troops are at the gates of Kyiv, this documentary films events in a paediatric hospital in Lviv treating the victims of the conflict. A powerful portrait of a doctor’s daily life in wartime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYReIt1FgT0
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https://twitter.com/markito0171/status/1625562610602020886 Lots of equipment on its way to Ukraine. Content is marked as sensitive but it's not.
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Chalks posted:https://twitter.com/markito0171/status/1625562610602020886 Musky can gently caress off with this poo poo.  Is there a way to look at those pictures without registering?
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https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/20...n-march-en-newsquote:This was decided during a meeting of the contact group on Ukraine’s defence held in the “Ramstein format”. Austin said that the eight countries that would provide Ukraine with advanced tanks are Germany, Poland, Canada, Portugal, Spain, Norway, Denmark, and the Netherlands. Spain sending Leopard 2 tanks after all? I wonder if they're reviving some of their rotten 2A4 stock, or just sending 2A6 like Germany? Also, on the note of the French artillery manufacturing program, I believe the initial batch is going to be just a few thousand rounds, if it's the same program that has already been mentioned in the press in the recent weeks. Ynglaur posted:Concerns about China are absolutely impacting Ukraine. Japan recently agreed to purchase 500 Tomahawk missiles. I think Ukraine is making everyone realize just how much ammunition modern warfare takes, even with precision munitions. Until (unless?) industry ramps up, Ukraine is going to face limits. Yeah, British defence officials apparently are now quantifying things a bit more seriously, and are concluding that their armed forces don't have enough material to sustain a week-long war. I think everyone has been doing that through the last year, and it is a major part into present winking that Ukraine will have to make do for a bit, and is at a "pivotal" moment - the situation with material levels is unlikely flattering, and we might be entering the stretch where everyone is going to feel the consequence of JIT manufacturing approach gone wrong.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Is there a way to look at those pictures without registering? I got you homie    
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Chalks posted:https://twitter.com/markito0171/status/1625562610602020886 Thats great to see. It reminds me of reading about the Arsenal of Democracy in WW2. edit for image content: 
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https://www.ft.com/content/49233164-d28b-4d7d-868c-88e642e28e0b As speculated earlier, Germany is now putting everyone on blast for screaming about tanks. Pistorius talks a bit in the article about other countries sending tanks, and while not all of them are mentioned, the total by the article is like 17 2A6 (14 DE + 3 PT) and 30 2A4. Massive shade there at the readiness of Polish Leopards, though Poland disputes that and seems to be trying to convince Spain to send 2A4s (hopefully not to batch the refurb procurement request). Overall, German plan was to try sending 2 battalions (still idk which battalion this should be, but apparently NATO battalion) of tanks at once to Ukraine, and it's smelling increasingly dead now.
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Nenonen posted:I got you homie Paint shops's gonna need a few more nozzles.
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Tomn posted:Well, it's kind of to be expected that the head of NATO would be focusing primarily on NATO's ability to deal with the situation. But beyond that I suspect his statement is probably true for everybody sending supplies to Ukraine - as is pretty usual peacetime stockpiles and production are proving vastly inadequate to wartime consumption, and "every Western-aligned nation sending supplies" can only go so far when a bunch of those countries are reconsidering how much they need their own stockpiles in the event of war due to Ukraine's example. Speaking of non-NATO countries, the defense minister of Finland said today that the Defense Forces will recruit more workers to their own ordinance production facilities in Ähtäri and Haapajärvi and move to multiple shifts. (This is really handy for defense minister Mikko Savola from the Finnish Regional Pork Barrels Party aka Centre Party, who is from Ähtäri himself and previously was involved in getting pandas for the local zoo. That didn't turn profitable so now the locals will get defense jobs instead!)
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Blut posted:Thats great to see. It reminds me of reading about the Arsenal of Democracy in WW2. I wish the administration would lean into this messaging a bit more, frame our (the US, that is) support of Ukraine as a patriotic endeavor reminiscent of these kind of pictures from World War 2. But that would require a Democrat to be good at advertising when they actually do something good. 
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Moon Slayer posted:I wish the administration would lean into this messaging a bit more, frame our (the US, that is) support of Ukraine as a patriotic endeavor reminiscent of these kind of pictures from World War 2. The US is utterly humiliating and bankrupting a hated rival/ enemy and propping up a democracy in Eastern Europe, all without firing a shot. Of course the dems can't figure out how to message this, they only know how to message "hey remember that Trump guy?!" Plus that messaging will do little on the lead brains that make up the GOP, that believe Russia is the good guy after a decade of exposure to Russian right wing propaganda.
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TulliusCicero posted:The US is utterly humiliating and bankrupting a hated rival/ enemy and propping up a democracy in Eastern Europe, all without firing a shot. Why does the average American care about this when everything costs more, everyone* is earning less, and everything life in general sucks? *of course rich people get richer E: like it or not but people do see these unlimited billion dollar aid packages to Ukraine and start to wonder what the gently caress their government is doing for them, misguided or not. Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Feb 14, 2023 |
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