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The SNP had a handful of MPs until they suddenly didn't. The Greens should replicate that strategy of hoovering up all the disaffected Labour support until the balance tips in their favour.
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feedmegin posted:You would have to actually do this, though. And the Greens have had one (1) MP for a long time now. In a FPTP system what you just said isn't, actually, necessarily, true. The only independent I'm pretty sure would win is Corbyn himself. Eh, there's a history of Labour leftists running in FPTP races & giving the Labour right a bloody nose, most notably Ken Livingstone in 2000 & Dennis Canavan in 1999. Canavan was a Labour MP who wanted to move to the new Scottish parliament but Blair rejected him so he ran as an independent & won
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forkboy84 posted:Eh, there's a history of Labour leftists running in FPTP races & giving the Labour right a bloody nose, most notably Ken Livingstone in 2000 & Dennis Canavan in 1999. Canavan was a Labour MP who wanted to move to the new Scottish parliament but Blair rejected him so he ran as an independent & won Ken Livingstone also did the same to be mayor iirc
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https://twitter.com/adamparsons/status/1625784998144909312 A cowardly man caught between two acts of cowardice
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Nicola Sturgeon is resigning today.
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https://twitter.com/BBCScotlandNews/status/1625796259905675264 Shame, she seemed like the best of a terrible, terrible bunch. Fingers crossed her replacement isn't some right wing psychopath like it has been for every other party.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Fingers crossed her replacement isn't some right wing psychopath like it has been for every other party. lol, lmao They'll select the terfyist terf to ever terf.
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Feb 15, 2023 11:15
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ah nivur tuched them weemin
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Congrats Joanna Cherry I guess
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sinky posted:lol, lmao I mean is there any evidence of that? Beyond Joan Cherry and a bunch of Edinburgh middle class fascists, has there been any sign that the SNP is infested with TERF's? Was it just Nicola Sturgeon holding back the wave of right wingers?
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why is she resigning? she doesnt seem that old? I'm sure she was on the radio the other day and laughed off a question about what she'd do after politics.
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Feb 15, 2023 11:18
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TERFs are in full gloating mode right now, having decided that this was entirely or at least largely because of the GRA stuff. I don't think the SNP has a member on Sturgeon's level, I think there's a real possibility they're on a downward spiral now as a party.
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Feb 15, 2023 11:19
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Maybe she just wants to go out while still being ridiculously popular and is sick of cunts moaning at her about how she should either declare independence now or ban trans people (take your pick).
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That's a shame, she was obviously crooked as hell but there's no sign she'll be replaced by anyone better. Here's hoping the independence train keeps on choo-chooing
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Gonzo McFee posted:I mean is there any evidence of that? Beyond Joan Cherry and a bunch of Edinburgh middle class fascists, has there been any sign that the SNP is infested with TERF's? Was it just Nicola Sturgeon holding back the wave of right wingers? The membership is very TERFy but were willing to set it aside for independence. Before they all left for Alba, the TERF bloc nearly swept the SNP's National Executive Council based on membership votes. If a transphobe candidate stands, I'd expect them to do well. Aside from the Tories obviously, the SNP also had the highest proportion of their MSP's voting against GRA reform.
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On behalf of Scotland, sorry guys, we hosed it again.
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She's been the best First Minister we've had to date, and it's a blow for the Nats for sure. Absolutely no idea who will replace her, Kate Forbes is one name I've heard for a while but I hate the idea of a Wee Free as FM
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Not a great day for any kind of remotely progressive politics in this godforsaken country. 
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Can't think of anyone in Holyrood with any charisma or talent, they're all kinda have a generic middle management vibe.
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Payndz posted:Not a great day for any kind of remotely progressive politics in this godforsaken country. just for fun I'm trying to think back to the last great day for any kind of remotely progressive politics in this godforsaken country and, well, I'm still thinking the day after the 2017 election was a good day, but I'm sure there were a few after that
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Barry Foster posted:just for fun I'm trying to think back to the last great day for any kind of remotely progressive politics in this godforsaken country and, well, I'm still thinking Johnson coming in and losing his first dozen or so votes in the Commons as PM was fun, but hardly a "great day" I suppose.
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keep punching joe posted:Can't think of anyone in Holyrood with any charisma or talent, they're all kinda have a generic middle management vibe. Devolved politics, the very definition of middle management, so this checks out
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Jedit posted:From Wiki: All the commercial ones iv'e looked at & eaten in N.I. were pork based, can't rule out individual butchers trying beef though but it would be a rare one. 
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Barry Foster posted:just for fun I'm trying to think back to the last great day for any kind of remotely progressive politics in this godforsaken country and, well, I'm still thinking Furlough was a pretty big victory considering how much Johnson and Sunak didn't want to do it. But yeah, today is bad even by regular UK standards. I don't see how people don't go full-doomer.
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Ash Crimson posted:gutted What the gently caress is your avatar?
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Tesseraction posted:all hail new first minister Limmy Would genuinely make Scotland a better place
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Gonzo McFee posted:What the gently caress is your avatar? I made some transphobe mad, they keep buying me this poo poo
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Lol at anyone who thinks that a bunch of lefties defecting to the Greens ends in anything other than the Greens getting savaged in the media until they're a bloody pulp.
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josh04 posted:loving yikes, do you want that blanked? Sure
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Lol at anyone who thinks that a bunch of lefties defecting to the Greens ends in anything other than the Greens getting savaged in the media until they're a bloody pulp. Probably, but what's the alternative? "Stay and fight" in Labour and be savaged until they're a bloody pulp? Stand as independents and be savaged until they're a bloody pulp?
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Ziggy Tzardust posted:Furlough was a pretty big victory considering how much Johnson and Sunak didn't want to do it. I've been full-doomer for three years now, you get used to it, honestly (though there are always little flare-ups of panic/despair) You learn to focus on the little things. The world is hosed and this country is hosed and there is nothing any of us can do to prevent it
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Just Another Lurker posted:All the commercial ones iv'e looked at & eaten in N.I. were pork based, can't rule out individual butchers trying beef though but it would be a rare one. Yeah, it says it's regional - which is what I originally wondered. Ireland, Scotland and Northumbria use beef suet and less meat, NI and southern England use pork and it's more of a meat pudding.
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I think today was the first time I felt mad about the news in a while. I've been mostly resigned to the whole thing be a panto written by a tory with a brain injury for a while but watching Labour go from "We need to tag every refugee like cattle" to pretending to be antiracist in the space of a day and the press just nodding along set something off in me. It feels so insulting to be expected to buy it. But the press isn't there for me, it's not even there for anyone in the public. The press exists to manufacture consent among itself.
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Frankly I'dve sacked it after Westminster overruled Scotland on the Gender Reform Bill.
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sebzilla posted:Probably, but what's the alternative? Build a time machine and go back to circa 2015 time Short of a revolution, our political system is beyond repair now. Any left wing alternative will be Corbynised by the establishment's media lasers. No left wing alternative will be allowed the oxygen to breathe. We don't even have an independent Electoral Commission anymore, which is now a unit controlled directly within No.10. Protesting is pretty much illegal, as will be many forms of industrial action soon, and all our political parties offer just different flavours of the same poo poo.
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josh04 posted:loving yikes, do you want that blanked? Presumably there's no way to find who bought it? That's fuckin vulgar
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Would genuinely make Scotland a better place Half his twitch audience call him a Tory.
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