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Jose posted:It's already come back to bite them because Angela Rayner has been forced to defend her spending lol They'll just leak internal stuff about the expenses of every left wing MP to get them booted out. I bet there's loads of them seething that Rayner is still in post. Remember most of the hardcore blairites hate Starmer because they think he isn't sufficiently ideologically committed
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First public statement I think since either the far right event in Liverpool or Brianna gheys murder and he wrote in the paper that deadnamed her. Christ https://twitter.com/brokenbottleboy/status/1625765829907296256?t=jRBc3UAz-Fp1TZjO3q07aQ&s=19 Jose has issued a correction as of 09:13 on Feb 15, 2023 |
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Not that this is a surprise to anyone but it is a surprise she's openly saying it but then they've won and it'll never get properly questioned https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1625763357021052928?t=d65fhmM54_A_secVnsbHzQ&s=19
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https://twitter.com/LizzyBuchan/status/1625784875411292161 join the green party jezzer
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gonadic io posted:https://twitter.com/LizzyBuchan/status/1625784875411292161 Start you own party.
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"Are you ready Mr. Corbyn? The MPs are waiting for your farewell address..."
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gonadic io posted:This is the transphobes winning right? They'll spin it as one
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It is wild that the labour right are so incredibly high on their own farts they're going so much further than Blair ever did despite the fact they're not even in power. I guess if the unions never disaffiliate though. Look at this poo poo. gently caress him https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1625787745707737088?t=J92XLID8n_DYWRMi_oYnPw&s=19
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Ash Crimson posted:it always gets worse who the gently caress gave you that avatar
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John Charity Spring posted:who the gently caress gave you that avatar Someone really mad
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Jesus Christ what a lovely thing to do. Post in the UK chat thread and the ik can blank it if you want
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Jose posted:Jesus Christ what a lovely thing to do. Post in the UK chat thread and the ik can blank it if you want Done
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John Charity Spring posted:who the gently caress gave you that avatar
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Ash Crimson posted:Done  e: nvm you posted in the other thread. throw a post here and I can blank it for you if that mod doesn't sort it. thank gently caress it's sorted. Solefald has issued a correction as of 12:18 on Feb 15, 2023 |
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gonadic io posted:This is the transphobes winning right? They are claiming it as a win but I really don't think it is. I'd imagine being in charge of any country during COVID would've been absolutely loving exhausting unless you're a Boris Johnson type who didn't seem to care either way. And 8 years as leader isn't a bad time really. Obviously it's a shock & probably a bit of it is the backlash to the 2 trans rapists who were put in women's prison & the hay being made out of that by Douglas Ross but I really don't think it's worth exaggerating. Probably more likely is internal SNP stuff getting to her: the same stuff that saw the leader at Westminster go, as the indy fundamentalists get fed up with waiting & get more aggro. The problem is there's no obvious successor. Kate Forbes has been mentioned but I can't see someone that socially conservative being accepted, abortion & gay rights aren't controversial viewpoints for most Scots. Even trans rights are overplayed because it's just an extremely vocal minority of freaks who seem to care about nothing else but being bigots to trans folk. Other than that, John Swinney has already failed as leader once, Angus Robertson is a divisive figure in the party as he lead the campaign for the SNP to remove a commitment to not join NATO after independence from the manifesto, Humza Yousef has been facing calls for his resignation over NHS waiting times so he'd start on a bit of a shoogily peg (though ultimately NHS funding mostly comes from Westminster & the block grant so I think that line is fairly insincere). Ultimately Sturgeon goes down as at worst the 2nd most significant figure of the devolution era after Donald Dewar & also goes down as one of the few First Ministers to not go down in some sort of corruption scandal. But I also think she recognises that after 8 years in charge she's become a divisive figure & independence probably has it's best chance with a new leader with less baggage. Though the flaw is I don't know who that will be.
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It's pretty bad news for the SNP - Sturgeon was good at steadying the ship and managing the different ideological layers of the SNP into a common consensus. Without her they risk losing the next election and potentially slipping into obscurity. I could well believe she's got fed up with the job though. Covid would have been a massive drain, but on top of that is the divisions within the party that are getting stronger due to the political impasse they find themselves in. There are sections of the party that want to lunge it rightward and try a much more hardline approach to gaining independence, even if it costs them everything. I'm not too sure who will replace her. Angus seems likely, but I think he'll struggle with the civil war brewing also. Forbes is part of a loony religion and if she wins it'll kill the SNP. After that it's very unclear who else could be an option.
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Lol I called that it was a good move for the tories to block the gender Bill and thus split the snp. The trans issue is a very good wedge issue for the tories, I don't think it will work on labour in the same way though but we will see.
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the sex ghost posted:Dimbleby or whoever smugly asks starmer what a woman is at the first election debate expecting him to poo poo himself but starmer instead puts forward his manifesto pledge to put all trans people in a big cage audience claps
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It certainly could happen since the polls are always wrong and they've shat all over their base But it would be even shittier if we got 10 years of right wing labour making the problems worse before the tories come back for more, so I reckon that will happen. Plus the tories brand is really damaged and turning Labour into the boot licker party probably could work on bootlicker Isle.
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polls are wrong and voter ID is going to gently caress labour more than the tories. labour forced into a coalition is easily the funniest outcome of the election. it was the case that labour had huge polling leads because people who normally vote tory were responding saying they weren't going to vote rather than anyone switching. dunno if its still true
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