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GoatSeeGuy posted:Baseball was in a bad place in the late 70's/early 80's, it's why they brought in Peter Ueberroth more as a marketing guy than commissioner and it worked. Outside of, you know, the whole collusion thing that resulted in Ueberroth's ouster and semi-permanent frosty relations between the owners and the union.
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I never said he was good, of course he was a piece of poo poo- he worked for the Olympics but he did start building the MLB media machine we have today and kept baseball from falling to NHL levels.
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Feb 11, 2023 00:49
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GoatSeeGuy posted:I never said he was good, of course he was a piece of poo poo- he worked for the Olympics but he did start building the MLB media machine we have today and kept baseball from falling to NHL levels. Unfortunately, Bud Selig is the one really responsible for that. He had the foresight to know that the Internet was going to be A Thing and formed MLB Advanced Media long before any other sports league had the idea in theirheads.
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Feb 11, 2023 00:50
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GoatSeeGuy posted:(One guy got so pissed when HBO finally did it he used his own equipment to override HBO's signal) One of the dorm buildings at my college had an HBO descrambler that someone had hidden in the walls, and for well over a decade one of the selling points for moving into that building was, "Free cable WITH HBO!" Until the IT team was running upgraded ethernet infrastructure over the summer, and found the thing. If another group's supervisor hadn't come by while we were doing the work, we would have just shoved it back in place, but once building management knew where it was, welp.
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Feb 11, 2023 02:35
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Oh, the days of analogue cable. I figured out how to de-scramble PPV at age nine.
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https://twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/1624872362750652419?s=46&t=I-P99nXJeiDVp-QAKOvPmg
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https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1625271469281538049 So this might be a thing, NBC is great about the Premier League but was lovely with the NHL. I'm wondering which section of TV rights they're gonna carve out ESPN's or Turners?
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Zaslav has been slashing spending across WBD and I think he said they don't need the NBA if the league will charge astronomical rates, so I imagine that's where
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Mike_V posted:Zaslav has been slashing spending across WBD and I think he said they don't need the NBA if the league will charge astronomical rates, so I imagine that's where If they did why'd they reup all the expensive contracts for Inside?
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Edward Mass posted:Oh, the days of analogue cable. I figured out how to de-scramble PPV at age nine. I watched the cable guy screw in the pay channel filters with a knife one day in the mid 80’s when I assume he forgot the real tool, so as soon as he left I grabbed a butter knife and got to work. The only hard part was remembering to add the filters back before calling for service. Very handy skill through college up until the mid 2000’s. Mike_V posted:Zaslav has been slashing spending across WBD and I think he said they don't need the NBA if the league will charge astronomical rates, so I imagine that's where Hopefully NBC wins over Apple, https://www.macrumors.com/2023/02/13/apple-interested-nba-streaming-rights/ and not just because of Roundball Rock. Their MLB games were awful. GoatSeeGuy fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Feb 15, 2023 |
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So it begins: https://twitter.com/soshnick/status/1625856052788072452 I still don't know how an RSN that is so overloaded with sports gambling managed to fall into bankruptcy so quickly. Is Donald Trump overseeing operations?
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Mike_V posted:So it begins: https://twitter.com/soshnick/status/1625856052788072452 I think it could be something like that. It could be a media conglomerate offloading debt obligations onto one business.
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Forrest on Fire posted:I think it could be something like that. It could be a media conglomerate offloading debt obligations onto one business. sinclair was the only willing buyer of the ex-fsn channels, with the decline of cable in full swing and that was before the pandemic
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It's because rather than buying up the spunoff stations outright, Sinclair financed the acquisition through extreme debt ($1.4B in their own money, $1B from other partners, $8.2B in debt) and saddled the newly created Diamond Sports subsidiary with that debt. They went under primarily/entirely because of the interest. Three cheers for leveraged buyouts. Bally's was a sponsorship deal more than anything, a desperate grasp hoping that the regulatory environment would create synergies that haven't come about yet and are unlikely to ever do so.
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Mike_V posted:So it begins: https://twitter.com/soshnick/status/1625856052788072452 Sports Gambling by and large is losing a lot of money. The New york Times recently had a podcast about the explosive growth of sports gambling. They cited the fact that the first 7 months of 2022 DraftKings had an adjusted loss of 700 million dollars. The big gambling companies are all throwing a lot of money at advertising and getting people hooked because the next step is "iGaming." Which is basically just full blown casino games but online. So you can play slots from your home PC or whatever.
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ESPN has announced an eight-part series on the New York Yankees.
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Edward Mass posted:ESPN has announced an eight-part series on the New York Yankees. [groans, loud booing]
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Edward Mass posted:ESPN has announced an eight-part series on the New York Yankees. I’d watch an eight-part series just on YankeesFans.gif, but not the team itself
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fartknocker posted:I’d watch an eight-part series just on YankeesFans.gif, but not the team itself  Each part focusing on a different person in that gif. I'm fully on board.
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A Yankees documentary of every time a non-Cardinals team valiantly defeated them in the CS or WS
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Christmas Gift Announced for a whole lot of old white guys.
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I just hope this doesn't affect Bally's pinball operations.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:I just hope this doesn't affect Bally's pinball operations. or their shoes
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Edward Mass posted:ESPN has announced an eight-part series on the New York Yankees. Only 8?
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:or their shoes or their gyms
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https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/35668388/rob-manfred-mlb-ready-diamond-sports-group-pay-teams Two important quotes: quote:MLB, with 14 teams that pull in substantive revenue through regional sports contracts with Diamond Sports Group, could be severely impacted. quote:Diamond Sports Groups' unraveling could open an opportunity for MLB to take control of all its rights and potentially end blackouts once and for all, which has long been a central focus for the league. But going direct-to-consumer would not allow MLB to match the money it currently generates through the cable model.
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Dango Bango posted:
The episode on the large gently caress YOU guy will be a blockbuster
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Is there any thought about espn taking over most major college sports rights killing RSNs? Like I remember FS NY would show random pac 10 basketball games at like 10 or 11 after the local games were done. Or other leagues when there wasn’t a local game at 7pm. Back before the ACC network when Syracuse would have a couple games a year on the local CW from the acc syndication package my friend that worked for Sinclair said that local ads were a bidding war basically and they had to give first shot at the lawyers and car salesmen that spent a ton of money all year Like I’m sure fox sports Carolina would have multiple NC/SC teams playing every week, and back when the conferences were smaller you cared about what the other 9-11 teams were doing so you would watch those games randomly. But if the hornets or hurricanes aren’t playing what the hell are they going to put on? Just some national live highlights show that probably doesn’t have very high advertising rates?
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A lot of the damage was done by the conference tv networks (which I guess would basically be ESPN in the case of the ACC and SEC) but also Fox Sports 1 (& 2) launching which became a natural home for a lot of those random non-marquee Saturday afternoon and evening games. 10+ years ago the RSNs were one of the only places for those games. But honestly the RSNs still have a ton of content. 162 baseball games, 82 basketball games, 82 hockey games. I know there’s some overlap there and not every single game is televised all the time, but that’s essentially 326 easy programming choices that are the bread and butter of the RSNs. What really killed the RSNs is cord cutting since cable companies were forced to put RSNs on the basic tier for a long long time so they were basically getting money from the huge portion of the population that doesn’t watch those games on a daily basis. Once that golden goose was gone, they were never gonna rebound.
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https://twitter.com/davecullinane/status/1626920122924388353?s=20 Boston continues to be Boston
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No Boston being Boston would be the reams of dickheads harranguing Chris Gasper got over that comment. Gasper being the black sports columnist who does a segment on Massarotti's (dude in that clip) show once a week Kalli fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Feb 21, 2023 |
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So whats the worst case scenario if Ballys dies abruptly here? Obviously any team on the RSN will lose money. But then presumably they will cease broadcasting as well? Would the given league have to immediately step in? They already skipped a payment right?
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soggybagel posted:So whats the worst case scenario if Ballys dies abruptly here? Obviously any team on the RSN will lose money. But then presumably they will cease broadcasting as well? Would the given league have to immediately step in? They already skipped a payment right? Worst case scenario is that about half the teams in baseball go bankrupt.
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Edward Mass posted:Worst case scenario is that about half the teams in baseball go bankrupt. And then a bunch of other RSN's go bust. Altitude is the canary in the coal mine of all this.
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It's unlikely they would just shut off the networks as they have revenue coming in, so in the case of bankruptcy they'd either keep things going with a skeleton crew or worst case they'd get a court ordered overseer to step in. Bankruptcy is just a process to handle existing debts, it doesn't mean the company disappears into the night or anything.
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Rob Manfred has also said something to the effect of MLB being prepared to do what's necessary to at least produce some kind of broadcast for MLB.tv if needed.
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I understand the way bankruptcy works I just meant more if they don't find a buyer and then they are unable to pay the RSN crews I highly doubt they will go to work out of the goodness of their hearts. I missed that Mandfred had talked about it. I saw some tweet last week that the NHL was having a meeting to discuss the RSN situation. It's a pretty wild situation.
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