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Honest Thief posted:This is good advice, but I'm in Europe, Lisbon to be more precise, but it's still useful. My biggest hurdle though was overcoming the stigma of being seen (? lack of a better word) there's a lot of cultural heritage to not make big waves, even today, because of our late dictatorship. People just have the habit of keeping to themselves and not get involved. yeah it can be tough when people have been propagandized against the ideas like that. there are parties and orgs in portugal though. even if none of them seem to be doing the work you think is necessary there are international groups and parties all over europe (too many actually lol). you could try looking into some of their politics and seeing if any of them feel like a good fit. organizing is hard and its not a straightforward thing to do like if you do x then you get y result. sometimes just talking to people you know around you and even just shifting their opinion a few degrees closer to the left can have a huge impact long term
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 08:31 |
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Honest Thief posted:This is good advice, but I'm in Europe, Lisbon to be more precise, but it's still useful. My biggest hurdle though was overcoming the stigma of being seen (? lack of a better word) there's a lot of cultural heritage to not make big waves, even today, because of our late dictatorship. People just have the habit of keeping to themselves and not get involved. Dictatorships have a tendency to arise due to an apathetic populace so perhaps you lusiphones should lay off the sangria
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# ? Jan 1, 2020 01:14 |
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apropos to nothing posted:even if none of them seem to be doing the work you think is necessary there are international groups and parties all over europe (too many actually lol). you could try looking into some of their politics and seeing if any of them feel like a good fit. yeah, look less for a perfect fit but a fit at least Dreddout posted:Dictatorships have a tendency to arise due to an apathetic populace so perhaps you lusiphones should lay off the sangria lol more than half the populace was dying out of hunger, it wasn't so much apathy as lethargy
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# ? Jan 1, 2020 15:09 |
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apropos to nothing posted:well, I’m a Bolshevik right now and I would like to not be murdered or imprisoned after a revolution by other Bolsheviks. drat this is some squish lib posting.
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# ? Jan 1, 2020 18:17 |
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bump
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# ? Feb 16, 2023 07:13 |
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apropos to nothing posted:don’t worry about what kind of whatever you are, find the people who are doing the work of organizing and join them and do the work and you’re whatever that is.
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# ? Feb 16, 2023 07:14 |
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I'm probably closer to anarchist just cause theyr correct that the imposition of state hierarchy inevitably causes horrible corruption and violence regardless of whether you're Johnny Capitalism or Johnny Communism. Otoh I think that the lefty move towards decentralisjng everything, which I think is based in those ideals, doesn't loving work at all. It's basically just giving up right from the beginning. So I suppose ultimately I don't think of it as a very practical ideology but it is correct. Also all the anarchists are useless weirdos arguing with eachother but that goes for everyone with strong political views. Actual commies seem to spend too much time apologising mass deaths or telling people they can look forward to back breaking labour on a collective farm come the revolution. The obsession with labour can strike me as basically protestant work ethic sometimes. It's obvious why communist rulers push it as an idea for the same reason capitalist rulers do.
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# ? Feb 16, 2023 11:53 |
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syq
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# ? Feb 16, 2023 11:58 |
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sighing so hard my lungs collapse
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# ? Feb 16, 2023 16:08 |
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Communist Thoughts posted:I'm probably closer to anarchist just cause theyr correct that the imposition of state hierarchy inevitably causes horrible corruption and violence regardless of whether you're Johnny Capitalism or Johnny Communism. saving this to read again later after i recover
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# ? Feb 17, 2023 21:41 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 08:31 |
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There's a perfect anarchist thread thatta way
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# ? Feb 17, 2023 23:20 |