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TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

Stalizard posted:

I have an Ibanez with what they call a floyd rose and some seymour duncans I'll trade you if you have a semi hollowbody

What do you guys think the odds are there's someone out there with like an epiphone casino and a need to shred

I have a full hollow body Ibanez but that’s my number 2 guitar. I already have 1 FR guitar I’m just trying to find reasons I’d want to play the guitar I learned on. I’ll just leave it in the closet for now.

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Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

TheMightyBoops posted:

I looked at how you’d go about doing it and I think the answer is to buy an Ibanez or a Jackson.

I think Affinity might be extra slender from front to back. Or is that the Bullet?

Stalizard
Aug 11, 2006

Have I got a headache!

TheMightyBoops posted:

I have a full hollow body Ibanez but that’s my number 2 guitar. I already have 1 FR guitar I’m just trying to find reasons I’d want to play the guitar I learned on. I’ll just leave it in the closet for now.

Force yourself into a different style, learn some dire straits or something jazzy where you're not dive bombing and making motorcycle noises the whole song

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

Stalizard posted:

Force yourself into a different style, learn some dire straits or something jazzy where you're not dive bombing and making motorcycle noises the whole song

I only use them to play Jazz and Math Rock. I actually use the FR for fluttering and pulling up on more than anything else. I do use it a lot though when I have it.

Edit: it just occurred to me I should do something with the random Affinity Strat I just have because we were talking about cheap guitars. I think I’m actually just going to get it setup for my kids when they’re big enough to play a guitar and gift it to them now that I’ve ruminated on it. I should maybe take the Ali Express bridge I replaced the stock one off for something nicer. I’ll play it for a bit and see if it stays in tune.

Edit: After I scallop the neck the with a rusty file first just to get them something that really shreds.

TheMightyBoops fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Feb 16, 2023

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

fender make a good jaguar challenge (impossible)

adary
Feb 9, 2014

meh

landgrabber posted:

fender make a good jaguar challenge (impossible)

Back in the day when I worked as a guitar tech (way way back in the day) the biggest nightmare would be people bringing jaguars for setup, and expecting them to be properly intonated and stay in tune. That tremolo/bridge combo is the worst piece of junk I have ever seen and should be burned with fire. And even if you convert them to hard tail, they will remain ugly.

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

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Thomann replied:

Thomann posted:

The tone control is normally not especially noticeable in a guitar, since this might just reduce some frequencies, and only active EQ systems (not active pickups systems as the one this has) can increase them.

Major Operation
Jan 1, 2006

Lungboy posted:

Thomann replied:

That's a bullshit answer to give to "hey this tone knob on the brand new guitar I purchased doesn't seem to be doing very much".

The mic on my phone "might just reduce some frequencies" when recording the fart noise I would send them in reply.

Southern Cassowary
Jan 3, 2023

I'd expect to be able to roll off the tone on the neck and get a mellow jazz-like sound and it doesn't sound like the tone pot is doing that at all, and that response sucks.

Just as a checking all the bases thing, you tried a new battery?

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

Lungboy posted:

Thomann replied:

Someone should tell them they could save money and hassle if they skipped adding the pot at all.

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

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Southern Cassowary posted:

Just as a checking all the bases thing, you tried a new battery?

Not a new one but i tried it without one at all and the volume halved so it's definitely working.

Southern Cassowary
Jan 3, 2023

Lungboy posted:

Not a new one but i tried it without one at all and the volume halved so it's definitely working.

Actives sound like poo poo when the battery's going but "the tone knob is jacked" is not something I remember back from when I had EMG-equipped guitars.

Guitar Center has Classic Vibe Jaguars for 130$ off for President's Day and I'd probably have impulse bought one if I wasn't job hunting and penny pinching as a result. https://www.guitarcenter.com/Squier/Classic-Vibe-70s-Jaguar-Limited-Edition-Electric-Guitar-Shell-Pink-1500000296730.gc

Plank Walker
Aug 11, 2005
So I'm apparently really into noodley emo like e.g. Dads: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8n9w0grf6g

Can anyone recommend any bands/songs in the genre that don't use wild alternate tunings?

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

Plank Walker posted:

So I'm apparently really into noodley emo like e.g. Dads: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8n9w0grf6g

Can anyone recommend any bands/songs in the genre that don't use wild alternate tunings?

Television kind of? I tend to lump them in as progenitors of this sort of stuff. Most bands like this also have a second guitar, barring covet because she taps everything the other guitar would be playing. Oh also Slint looks to be all standard or drop D.

Edit: Sorry all the actual noodle emo bands I could think of used weird tunings when I looked it up.

TheMightyBoops fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Feb 16, 2023

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

Plank Walker posted:

So I'm apparently really into noodley emo like e.g. Dads: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8n9w0grf6g

Can anyone recommend any bands/songs in the genre that don't use wild alternate tunings?

You're in luck because there are several hundred bands that put out 3 song 7"s in the mid 90s that sound exactly like this

But seriously, maybe check out Cursive? I just looked up some tabs and they seemed to stay in standard tuning. Slint is a good call too. Also maybe Karate for some chill jazz chords and noodles

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

there was a really cool noodley emo/punk band but they got cancelled for the main person being a sex pest so i shant name them

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
That describes a lot of pop punk bands

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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Whether they be active pickups or not a tone control is just a simple lowpass RC filter that can be used the same way on anything. Thomann loving sucks Jesus.

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

adary posted:

Back in the day when I worked as a guitar tech (way way back in the day) the biggest nightmare would be people bringing jaguars for setup, and expecting them to be properly intonated and stay in tune. That tremolo/bridge combo is the worst piece of junk I have ever seen and should be burned with fire. And even if you convert them to hard tail, they will remain ugly.

this slander is incredibly lame.

also not sure what bridge you were working with because there've been a few different ones, if i recall correctly it's not uncommon for offset bridges to appear on each other's models, and fender will often put a tune o matic bridge on jaguars/jazzmasters.

mustang is the coolest looking offset imo but it's just strat pickups under there. at least as far as i'm aware.

jaguar pickups are cool cause they have a little percussion to them but they don't sound all country-ish like telecaster pickups.

best single coil however is a hot P90, which is a shame because the mustang 90 is only available in ugly color ways, then you have to get a noventa which is stupidly expensive if you want them otherwise. or get some kind of les paul with them and risk breaking your neck because you're me and you're an underweight 21 year old girl.

get an SG and you probably get neck dive. the world is cursed.

also jaguars aren't ugly actually

Blotto_Otter
Aug 16, 2013


landgrabber posted:

best single coil however is a hot P90, which is a shame because the mustang 90 is only available in ugly color ways,

uh, two of these colorways are extremely good, actually? :confused:

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

landgrabber posted:

this slander is incredibly lame.

also not sure what bridge you were working with because there've been a few different ones, if i recall correctly it's not uncommon for offset bridges to appear on each other's models, and fender will often put a tune o matic bridge on jaguars/jazzmasters.

mustang is the coolest looking offset imo but it's just strat pickups under there. at least as far as i'm aware.

jaguar pickups are cool cause they have a little percussion to them but they don't sound all country-ish like telecaster pickups.

best single coil however is a hot P90, which is a shame because the mustang 90 is only available in ugly color ways, then you have to get a noventa which is stupidly expensive if you want them otherwise. or get some kind of les paul with them and risk breaking your neck because you're me and you're an underweight 21 year old girl.

get an SG and you probably get neck dive. the world is cursed.

also jaguars aren't ugly actually

The fancy Yamaha Pacifica comes stock with a Seymour Duncan P90.

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

Blotto_Otter posted:

uh, two of these colorways are extremely good, actually? :confused:

they look good on the site but unfortunately that sea foam color is really ugly irl. it's less "surf green" and more "grandma's bathroom tile"

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

landgrabber posted:

get an SG and you probably get neck dive. the world is cursed.

also jaguars aren't ugly actually

Nah, I currently own two SGs and have played a bunch over the years. Reports of SG neckdive are wildly overblown. Neckdive in general is such non problem if you actually, you know, play the fricken thing or even just have a strap that isn't made of greased teflon

And yeah, jags are the best who's hating on jags?

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

800peepee51doodoo posted:

Nah, I currently own two SGs and have played a bunch over the years. Reports of SG neckdive are wildly overblown. Neckdive in general is such non problem if you actually, you know, play the fricken thing or even just have a strap that isn't made of greased teflon

And yeah, jags are the best who's hating on jags?

the couple ones i've played irl actually had bad neck dive.

neck dive sucks for me because i have really lovely left hand technique because i taught myself, so i play like



instead of something more like

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
That hand position is fine you overanalyzing dork

Blotto_Otter
Aug 16, 2013


landgrabber posted:

they look good on the site but unfortunately that sea foam color is really ugly irl. it's less "surf green" and more "grandma's bathroom tile"

well that's a bummer. would love the look of that guitar in a good surf green/sonic blue/shell pink

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

landgrabber posted:

the couple ones i've played irl actually had bad neck dive.

neck dive sucks for me because i have really lovely left hand technique because i taught myself, so i play like



instead of something more like



Your technique is far more 'correct' than the thumb over baseball bat position in the bottom pic. Thumb over only became a thing because guitars straps got lower and classical thumb-to-neck is tougher.

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

darkwasthenight posted:

Your technique is far more 'correct' than the thumb over baseball bat position in the bottom pic. Thumb over only became a thing because guitars straps got lower and classical thumb-to-neck is tougher.

ha, funny you quoted this. second pic is cropped from a pic of kele okereke :)

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

landgrabber posted:

ha, funny you quoted this. second pic is cropped from a pic of kele okereke :)

Next time I see him I shall have some stern words about how his technique sucks and he should adapt if he wants to get anywhere in music.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
It'll take time to get a comfy wrist angle but you're doing the right thing with hand position :)

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

I play with my thumb behind the neck too and the only other thing I’ll add is that for awhile I’d get hand cramping, but that was 100 percent to do with not knowing how to relax my hand the right way. It’s totally normal to play that way, but it’s not normal to be in any unexpected pain.

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

i don't generally feel comfortable playing the guitar. it might be because i'm bad about practicing everything regularly, it might be a setup thing... i get really physically tired easily. i have a bad tendency to look at the neck while i'm playing, too, which means i'm always looking down, which hurts my neck.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

landgrabber posted:

i don't generally feel comfortable playing the guitar. it might be because i'm bad about practicing everything regularly, it might be a setup thing... i get really physically tired easily. i have a bad tendency to look at the neck while i'm playing, too, which means i'm always looking down, which hurts my neck.

I write and practice better sitting in a comfy position, reclined in a chair and staring at my hands. This isn't a woodwind instrument, you don't have to be at full concert attention all the time. Find a position that you can play guitar in without getting tired

Southern Cassowary
Jan 3, 2023

This is going to sound mildly crazy but over the past six months where I've gotten serious about being a gym regular and weightlifting certain things got noticeably easier on guitar - fast picking runs, barre chords, etc.

Buschmaki
Dec 26, 2012

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One of my fav things about getting guitar lessons is getting live feedback on my ergonomics and technique. I can play much more comfortably now and have better tone cause I'm not tense af holding the guitar anymore

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

Southern Cassowary posted:

This is going to sound mildly crazy but over the past six months where I've gotten serious about being a gym regular and weightlifting certain things got noticeably easier on guitar - fast picking runs, barre chords, etc.

yeah, no, i totally believe you.

i'm weaker than i've ever been actually. a year or two ago i would stand there every couple days and play through all of blue and pinkerton, improv-ing my own leads, and not really break a sweat. now the idea of doing that is daunting lmao


Buschmaki posted:

One of my fav things about getting guitar lessons is getting live feedback on my ergonomics and technique. I can play much more comfortably now and have better tone cause I'm not tense af holding the guitar anymore

yeah. i'd very much like guitar lessons but i live in a place with very limited teachers-- and since i'm bored to tears by what the majority of guitar teachers teach, it's way harder if not actually kind of impossible to find the type of guitar teacher i'm really interested in learning from.

Southern Cassowary
Jan 3, 2023

landgrabber posted:

yeah. i'd very much like guitar lessons but i live in a place with very limited teachers-- and since i'm bored to tears by what the majority of guitar teachers teach, it's way harder if not actually kind of impossible to find the type of guitar teacher i'm really interested in learning from.

You'd be shocked by the caliber of player who is offering online lessons and how cheap they are. You've mentioned being short on cash recently but when that sorts itself out I'd highly suggest poking around on Google and seeing if some of your favorite players are offering lessons (and if they're any good at teaching).

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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Just put wheel weights in your control cavity. Bing bong so simple.

Also lmao a guitar design that requires you to put wheel weights in its control cavity so that, in between songs, it doesn’t dive into the floor and snap he own headstock off because that is also a poo poo design.

P.S. SG is my favorite type of guitar 😭

Southern Cassowary
Jan 3, 2023

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

Just put wheel weights in your control cavity. Bing bong so simple.

Also lmao a guitar design that requires you to put wheel weights in its control cavity so that, in between songs, it doesn’t dive into the floor and snap he own headstock off because that is also a poo poo design.

P.S. SG is my favorite type of guitar 😭

When Gibson did the whole Original and Modern collection thing after the new CEO came on I kind of figured they'd actually like, put volutes on the necks and poo poo on the Moderns but lol Gibson.

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Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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Tie dozens of helium balloons to the headstock instead

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