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Imagine being put off joining the USA's army because it was too woke.
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Weka posted:Imagine being put off joining the USA's army because it was too woke.
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Feb 15, 2023 14:49
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how do i empire i am not good with hegemonies https://twitter.com/USAmbKabul/status/1625808160614240258?s=20
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Feb 16, 2023 03:00
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The Oldest Man posted:how do i empire i am not good with hegemonies 
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Feb 16, 2023 03:23
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It's almost liked the armed forces are garbage Saying as someone who was dumb enough to do ten years
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Feb 16, 2023 04:13
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The US Navy's struggle to keep ships in fighting shape is leading sailors to 'cannibalize' more parts from other ships More money than the next 10 countries in the world and cant even keep its navy aflot.
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Feb 16, 2023 16:35
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KomradeX posted:The US Navy's struggle to keep ships in fighting shape is leading sailors to 'cannibalize' more parts from other ships Was gonna post this just now. Some idiot would argue that congress forcing the navy to keep certain ships on the roll when they are requesting early decomisioning means the ships would be usable. No, the reality is that they would just rust at drydock or end up getting its parts "controlled substituted" to make another of the same class barely functional
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I remember Warship magazine or maybe USNI had a great article about how the Navy hated the OHP frigates because they were cheap, reliable, durable and so bad for the careers of surface officers as new, exciting ships weren’t being commissioned on a regular basis. It's one of the funnier ways to run a Navy, for sure. There was a recent conference of Naval Architects on future surface combatants and it seems as if the goal here is to, if not maximize turnover, then ensure both Surface Officers and defence contractors can associate themselves with something "new" on a regular basis. I'll try to find it on JSTOR. Well, Here's one, though I think what I'm looking for was written by Conrad Waters or Ian Ballantyne and was presented at RINA 2022. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 17:16 on Feb 16, 2023 |
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Feb 16, 2023 17:09
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KomradeX posted:The US Navy's struggle to keep ships in fighting shape is leading sailors to 'cannibalize' more parts from other ships Wasn't there some dipshit that was arguing that the USN technically wasn't getting rid of all its Aegis cruisers yet because Congress kept putting off the decommissioning even if they Navy wanted it
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There are Aegis cruisers deployed right this moment. They’ll probably be retired in a few years though. Some people got confused and thought they were already retired rather than still deployed in strike groups and slated for future deployments. Navy tried to pull a fast one by asking for and receiving funding to modernize one of them, then asking to retire it after modernization was complete rather than ever using it, which pissed off lawmakers.
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Feb 16, 2023 17:56
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there's a littoral combat ship in my back yard and it looks sad as hell. no surface to surface missiles, although I think some have them now? or wait is that a new variant? what's the minimum navy year going to be? seems like it might be missing a few kind of key ship classes at points
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Feb 16, 2023 18:01
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Cuttlefush posted:there's a littoral combat ship in my back yard and it looks sad as hell. no surface to surface missiles, although I think some have them now? or wait is that a new variant? I'm surprised that it hasn't rusted into nothing just yet
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Feb 16, 2023 18:14
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KomradeX posted:It definitely feels like a revision that came about after The Great War that got cemented by World War 2 with the whole citizen solider tbing that became part of the myth we built about why we are greater than the godless communists. That people joined the army out of self sacrifice rather than being gently caress ups with no other recourse It always seemed to be a post 9/11 thing to me, in the 90s no one was thanking da troops for dere service, and if you thought about joining the military the assumption was you couldn't do much else with your life.
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Feb 16, 2023 18:17
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KomradeX posted:I'm surprised that it hasn't rusted into nothing just yet it's like half-orange
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Feb 16, 2023 18:21
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Cuttlefush posted:it's like half-orange helps with scurvy
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mlmp08 posted:helps with scurvy lol
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Feb 16, 2023 18:32
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What if a littoral combat ship but, instead of dissolving on contact with water, it turned into a dinosaur shaped sponge.
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Feb 16, 2023 18:43
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That's a logical next step because they already have the kind that change colour when you get them wet
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Turtle Sandbox posted:It always seemed to be a post 9/11 thing to me, in the 90s no one was thanking da troops for dere service, and if you thought about joining the military the assumption was you couldn't do much else with your life. It took Vietnam for people to hold the military in utter contempt, but that was quickly redeemed by the mid-80s for it to regain prestige and just has not dropped back down
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Feb 16, 2023 19:03
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KomradeX posted:It took Vietnam for people to hold the military in utter contempt, but that was quickly redeemed by the mid-80s for it to regain prestige and just has not dropped back down absolutely not. nobody gave a poo poo about the military in the 90s until one fateful morning 22 years ago i think 3 kings is a pretty good perception-ometer from that period
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Feb 16, 2023 20:02
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i say swears online posted:absolutely not. nobody gave a poo poo about the military in the 90s until one fateful morning 22 years ago Opinion polling from the time disagrees
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Feb 16, 2023 20:03
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KomradeX posted:Opinion polling from the time disagrees americans approved of the military as much pre-9/11 as post-9/11? what about willingness to sign up, was that polled
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Feb 16, 2023 20:08
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KomradeX posted:Opinion polling from the time disagrees can i see some
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i say swears online posted:americans approved of the military as much pre-9/11 as post-9/11? what about willingness to sign up, was that polled
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There was a bunch of hype from the Persian Gulf, they were giving playing cards with armored vehicles at parades. it went from fairly standard nationalism to creepy degrees of it after 9/11.
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Feb 16, 2023 20:14
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 thanks to its research in Afghan Girl Magic, the U.S. will have wide-ranging superiority in all kinds of situations. it will never lose.
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Feb 16, 2023 20:15
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croup coughfield posted:can i see some https://news.gallup.com/poll/1666/military-national-defense.aspx pick whichever numbers fit your desired conclusion, as that is the purpose of polling
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Feb 16, 2023 20:16
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Trabisnikof posted:https://news.gallup.com/poll/1666/military-national-defense.aspx too confusing@!
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Feb 16, 2023 20:21
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Trabisnikof posted:https://news.gallup.com/poll/1666/military-national-defense.aspx that highest spike for 'too little' is interesting. iran hostages i guess
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i say swears online posted:americans approved of the military as much pre-9/11 as post-9/11? what about willingness to sign up, was that polled Theres a difference between willing to sign up and a vauge I support the military.
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Feb 16, 2023 20:24
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there's no way
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1 year doing real war on a single 2500km front, and NATO is getting real tired world's most expensive paper tiger
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They were no-poo poo oriented around a war that lasted 3 weeks or until the end of the world, whichever came first until 1991, and then it was just expeditionary wars to fine tune the End of History, so you can't blame them for not realizing land wars require munitions.
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Frosted Flake posted:They were no-poo poo oriented around a war that lasted 3 weeks or until the end of the world, whichever came first until 1991, and then it was just expeditionary wars to fine tune the End of History, so you can't blame them for not realizing land wars require munitions. would you rather make 1 dollar/shell and make a billion shells, or 1 billion dollars/plane and make one plane? plus, people may actually expect the shells to work
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indigi posted:there's no way https://twitter.com/USAmbKabul/status/1626269056813654019
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Delta-Wye posted:1 year doing real war on a single 2500km front, and NATO is getting real tired even funnier when "only a gas station" russia is outshooting them like 10:1
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Delta-Wye posted:1 year doing real war on a single 2500km front, and NATO is getting real tired
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idk how the gently caress anyone thinks a real deal actual war with china is going to work. its going to be funny when the west loses access to asian manufacturing capacity while simultaneously having to retool our domestic industry for military production. the people in charge think they can just buy whatever whenever at any quantity and have no conceptual understanding that everything has to be manufactured. manufacturing requires supply chains, and those supply chains require long term nurturing and development. if you don't assume extreme incompetence they are either bluffing and aren't planning for a proper conflict to happen, or they expect it to go nuclear so fast who gives a gently caress. im worried its the latter lmao
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china will surrender once the shooting starts if we stop selling their geforce 4090s
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Delta-Wye posted:idk how the gently caress anyone thinks a real deal actual war with china is going to work. its going to be funny when the west loses access to asian manufacturing capacity while simultaneously having to retool our domestic industry for military production. the people in charge think they can just buy whatever whenever at any quantity and have no conceptual understanding that everything has to be manufactured. manufacturing requires supply chains, and those supply chains require long term nurturing and development. Biden is literally the crypt keeper and his closest brush with anything like a war economy is the time he had to get a bunch of special goodboy exemptions from the Vietnam draft in the 60s. Everybody in power is simultaneously so old that they believe they have seen the sum total possibilities of this world and so sheltered that they have no loving idea whatsoever what war actually is, including people who were actually in the military and experienced war as an imperial occupier in various value-added foreign excursions to the developing world. The idea that the United States could get in over its head militarily is as alien to them as the idea that the Russian Imperial far east fleet could be defeated by the Japanese.
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