croup coughfield posted:

in this thread we believe that Christ is Lord and thats all there is to it

croup coughfield posted:

in this thread we believe that Christ is Lord and thats all there is to it

croup coughfield posted:

in this thread we believe that Christ is Lord and thats all there is to it

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

Judeo-Christian-Bolshevism

namesake posted:

While many of you are yelling "GO ENGELS!" or "GO TROTSKY!" I'm yelling "GO JESUS CHRIST and the word of god!"

namesake posted:

While many of you are yelling "GO ENGELS!" or "GO TROTSKY!" I'm yelling "GO JESUS CHRIST and the word of god!"

Lumpy posted:

[Marxism] - too dreamy to be dangerous

Comrade Koba posted:

marx is capitalist propaganda, they twisted all the actual communist gigachad warlords into one single fat, bearded goon with bad skin and a drinking problem

quote:

O. told his story mostly in direct discourse. The following may not be verbally exact, but it reflects accurately the substance and the spirit of what O. recounted.

“Tell me, Stalin, why did you persecute religion and the church?”

“Well, Father, what in hell would you have done in my case?”

“Yes, I probably would have done about the same, but I don’t want you to go on doing it any more.”

“Right,” answered Stalin, “some of my best subjects are Christians.”

“That makes sense,” O. rejoined. “You know Christ told us to be as wise as serpents.”

Thereupon Stalin pronounced an extended eulogium on Christ, remarking upon the greatness of His spirit and His transcendant [sic] wisdom.

https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/memorandum-conversations-rev-stanislaus-orlemanski-springfield-massachusetts

Atrocious Joe posted:

Gerald Horne twitter fandom. People with Horne profile pics, "read Gerald Horne" display names, etc.

croup coughfield posted:

whats the most gbs tendency, do you think? bet we could get a lot of these guys organized if we could figure that out

Epic High Five posted:

Things would be a lot wilder if Engels had the lathe of heaven

dead gay comedy forums posted:

lmao, yeah

Engels was the peak grognard socialist. The man definitely had notebooks full of war plans according to which country would spark the revolution, wargamed the entire thing, etc (now that I think of it "what if Friedrich Engels had the Prussian army" is a good theme for a victoria 3 aar); if things went more his way, Lenin would have barrelled down St Petersburg with twenty artillery divisions in 1905

Still, he got a good bunch of things right, though. Irish republicanism, the social transformation through women in the workforce, so on and on

gradenko_2000 posted:

you might be interested in "First Red Clausewitz: Friedrich Engels and Early Socialist Military Theory", which talks about Engels's writing and experiences as a military theorist and analyst. One of the things I remember is that Engels correctly predicted that Moltke was going to be a big up-and-comer.

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Nicholas II inherited from his ancestors not only a giant empire, but also a revolution. And they did not bequeath him one quality which would have made him capable of governing an empire or even a province or a county. To that historic flood which was rolling its billows each one closer to the gates of his palace, the last Romanov opposed only a dumb indifference. It seemed as though between his consciousness and his epoch there stood some transparent but absolutely impenetrable medium.

quote:

Nicholas recoiled in hostility before everything gifted and significant. He felt at ease only among completely mediocre and brainless people, saintly fakers, holy men, to whom he did not have to look up. He had his amour propre, indeed it was rather keen. But it was not active, not possessed of a grain of initiative, enviously defensive. He selected his ministers on a principle of continual deterioration. Men of brain and character he summoned only in extreme situations when there was no other way out, just as we call in a surgeon to save our lives. It was so with Witte, and afterwards with Stolypin. The tzar treated both with ill-concealed hostility. As soon as the crisis had passed, he hastened to part with these counsellors who were too tall for him. This selection operated so systematically that the president of the last Duma, Rodzianko, on the 7th of January 1917, with the revolution already knocking at the doors, ventured to say to the tzar: “Your Majesty, there is not one reliable or honest man left around you; all the best men have been removed or have retired. There remain only those of ill repute.”

quote:

The comparison of Rasputin and Christ was customary in that circle, and by no means accidental. The alarm of the royal couple before the menacing forces of history was too sharp to be satisfied with an impersonal God and the futile shadow of a Biblical Christ. They needed a second coming of “the Son of Man.” In Rasputin the rejected and agonising monarchy found a Christ in its own image.

“If there had been no Rasputin,” said Senator Tagantsev, a man of the old régime, “it would have been necessary to invent one.” There is a good deal more in these words than their author imagined. If by the word hooliganism we understand the extreme expression of those anti-social parasite elements at the bottom of society, we may define Rasputinism as a crowned hooliganism at its very top.

dead gay comedy forums posted:

lmao, yeah

Engels was the peak grognard socialist. The man definitely had notebooks full of war plans according to which country would spark the revolution, wargamed the entire thing, etc (now that I think of it "what if Friedrich Engels had the Prussian army" is a good theme for a victoria 3 aar); if things went more his way, Lenin would have barrelled down St Petersburg with twenty artillery divisions in 1905

Still, he got a good bunch of things right, though. Irish republicanism, the social transformation through women in the workforce, so on and on

Friederich Engels, Revolution and Counter-Revolution in Germany posted:

The defensive is the death of every armed rising; it is lost before it measures itself with its enemies. Surprise your antagonists while their forces are scattering, prepare new successes, however small, but daily; keep up the moral ascendancy which the first successful rising has given to you; rally those vacillating elements to your side which always follow the strongest impulse, and which always look out for the safer side; force your enemies to a retreat before they can collect their strength against you; in the words of Danton, the greatest master of revolu­tionary policy yet known, de l'audace, de l’audace, encore de I’audace!

Azathoth posted:

I'm definitely gonna check that out. There is a ton of class poo poo going on both overtly and just under the surface with the Bible, hell the whole point of Luke's Gospel is an overt concern for the poor. They obviously lacked the framework and language to accurately describe it, but "some people are rich while a lot more starve" is a huge theme of the New Testament.

It presents an interesting juxtaposition with the Old Testament, which was written by the ruling class, and the New Testament, which was written by and to an audience largely not in that class. There's a very valid reading of a lot of it as society 2000 years ago struggling to understand the very contradictions Marx would later write about, along with their "of the time" solutions.

Sunny Side Up posted:

I’m really enjoying this guy Gabriel Rockhill (and holy smokes he works at Villanova like 45 mins from me), but searching him led me to watch “criticism” from this guy Haz/Infrared for the first time (like 10 mins in the middle of a 4 hour video) and it was just incoherent raving punctuated by exclamations and Marxish buzzwords. Very Vaushy.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Centrist Committee posted:

id really love a marxist take on islam if anyone knows of anything like that

croup coughfield posted:

in this thread we believe that Christ is Lord and thats all there is to it

Ferrinus posted:

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

not weighing in on the existence of valhalla but lunacharsky was a giant dork for wagner and they performed his operas in the soviet union

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lunachar/1933/wagner.htm

that being said, stalin made numerous comments about germans, saying that communism would fit them like a saddle fits a cow, and that they'd struggle to make a revolution because they'd have to trample on lawns

Sunny Side Up posted:

So in the Great Leap Forward and I’m sure other experiments decommodification was attempted in various ways and to varying degrees of success in terms of human relationship, leisure, maximal return of use values, etc, but how or in what way would you eliminate commodity fetishism in the process of decommodification? What I’ve read involves several factors besides ownership of the means and usually includes some kind of voucher system which would still function to hide the labor of resource extraction, production, and distribution of use values/non-commodity goods. Feels like I’m missing forest for the trees so figured I’d ask.