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Fwiw cinquedea is the best dagger in the game. That you get just before chapter 26. And it's only better than silver 5 when forged to+3. Which is ludicrously expensive.
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The royal knight outfit is a good one! Jean is one of my better looking units.
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Feb 17, 2023 16:45
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To be fair, silver +5 is also ludicrously expensive In fact I think Cinquedea +3 uses fewer total materials than Silver +5, though again, you get it literally right before the final map
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Feb 17, 2023 16:45
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I have discovered on maddening enemy units get the good skills. Like swordmaster deathblow Or axe paladin swordbreaker Or swift stance griffon knights. Thank GOD berserkers dont come with passive crit.
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Feb 17, 2023 16:52
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I’m still getting a lot of mileage out of my 3 Wolf Knights. Forged Daggers are absurdly good and the mobility they have alongside Canter has been really great.
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Feb 17, 2023 17:14
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I'm definitely looking forward to my random character+class run. We'll see if there are any tremendous gems out there, and we'll also see what actually dedicating an emblem to a unit is like. Will the game tell me when I am on the final map? Because I quite like the idea of very suddenly blowing all of my cash and bond XP at once and instantly turning whoever I use in my final party into a group of supermen, compared to what I have been dealing with until that point.
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Feb 17, 2023 17:24
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Veryslightlymad posted:I'm definitely looking forward to my random character+class run. We'll see if there are any tremendous gems out there, and we'll also see what actually dedicating an emblem to a unit is like. the final chapter has a big flashing "this is the final chapter prepare your anus" sign on it
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Feb 17, 2023 17:25
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You'll know it's the final map, because when you return to the level select map the game will say, "gently caress you, go reload the somniel because the last mission launches from there"
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Feb 17, 2023 17:32
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Also I'm pretty sure the menu option to access the final map is literally "Go to Final Battle" or something like that, there's no ambiguity in the least You can also keep playing after the final battle. It just puts you back before the final map but with all the EXP you gained during the final map, and then you can go do skirmishes or trials or any divine paralogues you haven't done as postgame if you want.
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Feb 17, 2023 17:50
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All of this pleases me. Thank you, friends, for the responses.
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Feb 17, 2023 18:00
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Any reason to run Fogado cupido with the radiant bow instead of say bow knight or warrior Anna?
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Feb 17, 2023 18:09
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Avalerion posted:Any reason to run Fogado cupido with the radiant bow instead of say bow knight or warrior Anna? You have to baby Anna through her godawful Axe baby phase.
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Avalerion posted:Any reason to run Fogado cupido with the radiant bow instead of say bow knight or warrior Anna? 1. You like Fogado 2. You don't like Anna
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Feb 17, 2023 18:12
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also warrior anna is not a fun time, outfit-wise
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Feb 17, 2023 18:14
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the warrior outfit is just bad in general
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Bow knight Anna is a waste of her growths, it caps out at 24 mag.
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Feb 17, 2023 18:17
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Because in 10/20 Mage Knight instead of 10/20 Warrior Anna has +10.75 magic and is therefore better at killing non-flying things, and also has Chaos Style for +3 Speed against most enemies. Even if you're willing to use one of the three initial Master Seals and to forge a Radiant Bow ASAP, putting Anna in Warrior is a waste unless you're really, really attached to your Second Seals.
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Feb 17, 2023 18:18
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CharlestonJew posted:the warrior outfit is just bad in general Fogado can make it work but he's about the only one
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Feb 17, 2023 18:19
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Avalerion posted:Any reason to run Fogado cupido with the radiant bow instead of say bow knight or warrior Anna? The non-existent mag caps of the latter two, primarily. Not that cupido's is fantastic either, but it's still better than bow knight. That's the secret problem with the radiant bow, no bow using classes have valid magic caps.
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Important question: Does Etie get her fabled abs as a warrior
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Avalerion posted:Any reason to run Fogado cupido with the radiant bow instead of say bow knight or warrior Anna? It depends on the difficulty. Don't run Bow Knight on anyone. It's just worse than Warrior, giving up Backup for 1 mov is a bad trade. Warrior Anna is much stronger than Fogado on Maddening because when you equip radiant bow she'll have +8 Damage vs. Fliers and +8 Damage vs. Armour assuming level parity between the two at level 17, which are the two things you want your bows to really really loving murder. Sub Maddening that difference doesn't matter as much because you're going to oneshot the fliers regardless. So Fogado's flexibility is a much bigger strength. Whether you give a poo poo about the difficulty of babying a unit is up to you. I think it's completely trivial but there are many people who find it to be difficult or enough aggro to not be worth it and their opinions are just as valid.
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I don't really mind babysitting Anna through her Axe Fighter phase just because Micaiah makes it so much faster. She only needs to gain 5 levels and she can get like a couple levels per map out of Great Sacrifice alone if you plan it right. In the meantime she can be a staff bot during a time when you only have one natural staff user and other characters who could use Micaiah can spend their turns attacking. Something that might be a slightly bigger issue is that Warrior Anna isn't going to be able to come fully online until Chapter 14, when you get the Radiant Bow, so she needs something to do between promotion and then or she'll fall pretty far behind in levels. edit: though if you have DLC you can take that DLC Silver Bow and craft it up into a Radiant Bow much sooner. The 20 Silver Ingots that also come with that same DLC drop make that trivial to do. Harrow fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Feb 17, 2023 |
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Feb 17, 2023 18:30
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Harrow posted:Then you may appreciate Hero Ivy, the single worst fashion disaster I could find while messing around with class costumes on different characters There’s nothing good about the Hero Ivy costume yeah but that piss color they use for the gold really bothers me
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10/7 Warrior Anna has 9 Mag. 17/1 Warrior Fogado has 7 Mag. Even if you literally only care about Radiant Bow, 17/1 Cupido Fogado has 9 Mag and has 3 Spd over Anna, and Anna has less Spd growth than Fogado. Anna is in no way better than Fogado on Maddening. I will grant you that it's easier for Anna to hit one-shot Flier range with Radiant Bow eventually assuming level parity, but you can't assume that without Micaiah anymore since Warrior Fogado will actually be able to kill a lot more stuff and gain a lot more EXP because he has better Str, Spd and Bld. And a sufficiently forged Radiant Bow will one-shot lategame fliers with Fogado's Mag anyway. blizzardvizard fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Feb 17, 2023 |
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ROFL Octopus posted:There’s nothing good about the Hero Ivy costume yeah but that piss color they use for the gold really bothers me All the metals look awful thanks to the underpowered switch. They wanted to have a reflective/shiny surface but everything involved in it is incredibly low res.
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I'd also argue that a Radiant Bow user is a pretty good candidate for Spirit Dusts if we're worried about Magic stats. The game's actual mages have high enough Magic and Mag growth that they probably won't miss a Spirit Dust or two if you throw a couple to a Radiant Bow archer.
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Anna’s bases are pretty dreadful and she needs a lot of time and resources to properly get going. It makes sense that investing in her would be a scam though.
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I went all in on her on my Maddening run and she's my dire thunder bot now in endgame. Not amazing but made me at least 25k over the run so that was worth it.
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Feb 17, 2023 18:56
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Anna vs. Fogado is almost a growth vs. bases argument. In the long run, Warrior Anna handily overtakes Cupido Fogado in both Str and Mag, with +4 Str and +5 Mag compared to Fogado at endgame levels. He's stronger when he shows up, she's stronger in the long run. Except that Fogado maintains a significant lead in Speed, ending up 5 points higher by endgame levels, and that's enough of a difference to be noticeable. So it's maybe less a question of growth vs. bases and more raw power vs. speed. (Fogado also has significantly better defenses but hopefully your archers aren't taking hits often enough for that to be a huge deal.) Or the other main point of comparison could also be "how much do you care about having one more Backup?" Harrow fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Feb 17, 2023 |
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CharlestonJew posted:the warrior outfit is just bad in general Yeah but at least it showcases most characters' carefully curated abs, instead of Anna's equally lovingly rendered child torso with prominent ribs. It's the one outfit I found upsetting enough to change a character into a different class.
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If you can install mods, there is one for that. https://gamebanana.com/mods/423687
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Harrow posted:Anna vs. Fogado is almost a growth vs. bases argument. In the long run, Warrior Anna handily overtakes Cupido Fogado in both Str and Mag, with +4 Str and +5 Mag compared to Fogado at endgame levels. He's stronger when he shows up, she's stronger in the long run. Warrior has a relatively low speed cap, doesn't Fogado cap ram it pretty early?
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Zore posted:Warrior has a relatively low speed cap, doesn't Fogado cap ram it pretty early? I was comparing with Cupido Fogado rather than Warrior Fogado, but also no, Warrior Fogado won't cap speed until 17/20/7 which you might not even reach by endgame. Warrior Fogado has much higher Strength and Speed than Warrior Anna but much worse Magic. I think a Radiant Bow Fogado is better off in Cupido, but a physical Fogado definitely wants to go Warrior.
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I’ve trying out Sword Griffin Knight Rosado with Roy and I don’t know what skills I should be giving him. I’ve already got Canter but I’m just sort of stuck with analysis paralysis with all of the options.
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There’s a lot of different reactions to characters dying in this game that I’d say very few people have seen so far. Let’s take our friend Pandreo. This is for if Panette dies: Pandreo posted:Panette is… No, Divine One, it has to be a lie. Praying for my sister’s soul…please, I can’t… This is if both Fogado and Bunet die: Pandreo posted:Divine One, I don’t understand, why did Fogado and Bunet have to go? Why did they leave me? And if somehow you lose all three? It’s hard to read. Pandreo posted:I’ve lost my master, my sister, my best friend… Divine One, please, tell me this is for a reason.
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jimmydalad posted:I’ve trying out Sword Griffin Knight Rosado with Roy and I don’t know what skills I should be giving him. I’ve already got Canter but I’m just sort of stuck with analysis paralysis with all of the options. Avoid+, Speed+, or Speedtaker (if he's getting enough kills) would be good. Get whatever level of Avoid+ or Speed+ you can afford if you go that route. Or throw another 1000 SP to upgrade to Canter+ and delay having to make a decision a while longer. ROFL Octopus posted:And if somehow you lose all three? It’s hard to read. Jesus that one hurts
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Hm, now considering a revolutionary run where all royals, and only royals, must die.
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You can massively turbo level anyone on hard with micaiah since healer exp isnt nerfed
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goatface posted:Hm, now considering a revolutionary run where all royals, and only royals, must die. the genealogy ending where all the inheritors besides seliph die and he quietly reassembles arvis's empire
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I can only assume some of this Anna discussion is made for maddening. I had no problem bringing up Anna alongside everyone else. Micaiah made leveling trivially easy in the early game. As for bumping into caps on Bow Knight, when is that a bad thing? I haven't hit it yet, having completed chapter 18, and she's one of my best player phase units with the Radiant bow. I guess when she does hit the cap, I would be losing out on some growth, but if I moved her into a mage class, the very best spell I can stick on her is still one less power, and something I would have to buy, and she wouldn't be able to use bows or axes (unless I crammed her into Mage Knight, I guess). It's a case where I think ramming the cap absolutely doesn't matter. She'd maybe be a little better with Thoron, but almost certainly worse with everything else. Enemies can only get so dead, anyhow.
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