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Platystemon posted:I think it was this thread that brought up that the premise that “the cause of zombieism is actually a totally real disease with a little evolution secret sauce” has been so done to death that in 2023 it would be comparatively fresh to have literal magic behind it. Personally, I'd rather my post apocalyptic stories not have zombies at all, but if you're going to have zombies I'd much rather have a scientific fig leaf to vaguely assure the audience that things otherwise work as you'd expect, rather than figuring out the laws of magic that allowed all this to happen and wondering what other magical things are now possible in this fantasy world. This is good to me whether or not it also makes me go "oh ho, that's clever!" as if I'm seeing the concept for the first time.
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Ducking down behind a car to avoid rifle fire is second only to the all time classic that is firing back while peeking out from behind an upturned kitchen table. If I were a gun weirdo it would probably annoy me but I just find it hilarious, it's almost like a director's in-joke, like slyly inserting a Wilhelm/Howie scream.
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Feb 17, 2023 18:32
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stev posted:I don't know the actual answer but surely the child Clicker could've been infected a year ago when she was a slightly younger child. I thought the same thing, but it can't have been earlier than 3 years ago when FEDRA drove all the local infested underground. Which is long enough as a zombie to wrap back around to the same question of if zombie's age or not.
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Feb 17, 2023 19:42
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how about this - malnourishment can lead to people not growing as much as they would, right? so the fungus is using up all the nutrients to develop itself, so children don't get any bigger except in the mushroom department. do they visibly age otherwise? who knows, they're covered in mushrooms.
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Feb 17, 2023 20:07
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Man I loving loved those dudes. Wish I could have gotten more Content to Hover content. GlyphGryph fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Feb 17, 2023 |
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Feb 17, 2023 20:19
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LLSix posted:I thought the same thing, but it can't have been earlier than 3 years ago when FEDRA drove all the local infested underground. Which is long enough as a zombie to wrap back around to the same question of if zombie's age or not. There's nothing to suggest Ish's playroom/base is that old though is there? She could have come from there or anywhere else and ended up underground with the rest.
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Feb 17, 2023 20:21
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roomtone posted:how about this - malnourishment can lead to people not growing as much as they would, right? so the fungus is using up all the nutrients to develop itself, so children don't get any bigger except in the mushroom department. do they visibly age otherwise? who knows, they're covered in mushrooms. Here’s a question: how do the zombies survive without food? It’s all magic, and the moment you try to make sense of it rationally it falls apart. In real life cordyceps fungi take over an insect and kill it within a matter of hours. If it evolved to infect humans it would cause them to spread the fungus within like 12-48 hours and then kill them. MeinPanzer fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Feb 17, 2023 |
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Feb 17, 2023 22:52
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in real life id defeat cordyceps via stirfrying with garlic and butter and a little white wine
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Jerkface posted:in real life id defeat cordyceps via stirfrying with garlic and butter and a little white wine Also, the screaming sound is actually just air escaping the host. It’s not suffering at all and totally can’t feel pain.
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Jerkface posted:in real life id defeat cordyceps via stirfrying with garlic and butter and a little white wine Jesus dude. You need to grate a little fresh nutmeg in whenever you sauté mushrooms. It really brings out the umami.
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Feb 18, 2023 00:47
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I just got Joel’s Flint and Tinder trucker jacket from Huckberry delivered today. Trip report: It’s awesome, and I’m going to wear it all spring! I’ll try to put up pics later.
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navyjack posted:I just got Joel’s Flint and Tinder trucker jacket from Huckberry delivered today. Trip report: It’s awesome, and I’m going to wear it all spring! I’ll try to put up pics later. I just got my Ellie palm tree t-shirt from Aliexpress today. It's pretty 'meh.' You get what you pay for I guess. 
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Did you know “T-shirt” is actually short for “Tyrannosaurus shirt”? It’s because of the small arms.
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deoju posted:I just got my Ellie palm tree t-shirt from Aliexpress today. It's pretty 'meh.' You get what you pay for I guess. The jacket was expensive but I kind of have an outerwear fetish so it’s coming out of that budget, lol. Great quality. Heavy. Flannel inside is nice and soft. Like I said, it’s going to be great as winter turns into spring. You def want this in a zombie apocalypse. Be really hard for a clicker to bite through.
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navyjack posted:I just got Joel’s Flint and Tinder trucker jacket from Huckberry delivered today. Trip report: It’s awesome, and I’m going to wear it all spring! I’ll try to put up pics later. Can you link where and what you got?
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Kwolok posted:Can you link where and what you got? https://huckberry.com/store/flint-and-tinder/category/p/55984-flannel-lined-waxed-trucker-jacket Pretty sure Joel wears the Havana color.
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Feb 18, 2023 02:27
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Joel is seen doing hard labor and still has to smuggle drugs just to get by, and I'm supposed to believe he can afford a $300 jacket? I'm begging this show to please be more relatable
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Jerkface posted:in real life id defeat cordyceps via stirfrying with garlic and butter and a little white wine but how would you defeat cholesterol poisoning
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Hobo Clown posted:Joel is seen doing hard labor and still has to smuggle drugs just to get by, and I'm supposed to believe he can afford a $300 jacket? I'm begging this show to please be more relatable He got it when the previous owner took shelter from bullets behind a car door.
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Feb 18, 2023 05:38
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Ellie said her blood is medicine, then cut open her loving palm Why do people always do that in movies when they need a blood sample? gently caress's sake, cut somewhere else, like the back of your forearm or something. This isn't meant to jump in on the realistic/unrealistic argument. It's just loving stupid when characters do that
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Feb 18, 2023 05:52
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I think it’s because it looks cool
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It’s an easy place to hide the blood packet when doing practical effects.
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WHY BONER NOW posted:Ellie said her blood is medicine, then cut open her loving palm It annoys me too, because hands are big old bags of very sensitive nerves that you also use for everything practical, one of the worst places to have a cut. However they also bleed like a motherfucker for the same reason a cut there hurts more than on your arm or wherever. In a lot of these scenarios they’re trying to get a lot of blood quickly onto the satanic altar/sexy vampire/legal document/whatever. Hands (and heads) have absolute poo poo loads of blood in them so you get a lot bleeding from relatively light and non-debilitating wounds. And if there are trade-offs at that point we’re just arguing about if characters bleed correctly which isn’t a very productive debate.
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WHY BONER NOW posted:Ellie said her blood is medicine, then cut open her loving palm Ellie is a child using child logic. It is stupid. She is not being presented as doing a smart thing. Honestly, that just makes it more poignant to me. It was a really tough scene. I was watching with someone who was beginning to say "oh, they better not have it work like that," like the show was in danger of getting really silly with magic blood. And I just said, "No, of course it's not going to work," already mourning the kid and feeling really sad at Ellie's impossible hope. The fact that she cut herself in a sub-optimal place was a small part of that feeling, and definitely not something to take issue with in this show.
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smug n stuff posted:I think it’s because it looks cool Platystemon posted:It’s an easy place to hide the blood packet when doing practical effects. Xiahou Dun posted:It annoys me too, because hands are big old bags of very sensitive nerves that you also use for everything practical, one of the worst places to have a cut. Eiba posted:It would be a very bad idea for a well informed person trying to practically extract their own blood to cut open their palms. Other fiction where that happens and people should know better is silly, as you say. All fair points. I withdraw the complaint (in this case!!)
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WHY BONER NOW posted:All fair points. I withdraw the complaint (in this case!!) no you're right, it is incredibly stupid as hell. was even her dominant hand right? what she'd use for her pistol, for anything really, let me just slap this baby on the fresh bloody ooze wound that is a clear sign of the virus has destroyed the entire world. but its ok i have magic blood. high five. please resubmit your gripe for the record
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I am literally begging you. if you watch this show for a simulation of the most tactically sound thing to do, where every action is calculated ahead of time and no motion is wasted and the gun poo poo is entirely accurate, please just hit the ejector button now. It's not the show for you. No zombie show is the show for you.
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The cut to the palm is another example of a cliche that, in my opinion, makes the show slightly worse. It's still a good show, the use of cliches doesn't ruin it, but it is still bad.
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LividLiquid posted:I am literally begging you. if you watch this show for a simulation of the most tactically sound thing to do, where every action is calculated ahead of time and no motion is wasted and the gun poo poo is entirely accurate, please just hit the ejector button now. It's not the show for you. .22 LR is the best bullet because it bounces around in the zombie’s skull.
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Chamale posted:The cut to the palm is another example of a cliche that, in my opinion, makes the show slightly worse. It's still a good show, the use of cliches doesn't ruin it, but it is still bad. Just watch a documentary if it bothers you. Realism is not the only valid kind of art.
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Chamale posted:The cut to the palm is another example of a cliche that, in my opinion, makes the show slightly worse. It's still a good show, the use of cliches doesn't ruin it, but it is still bad. Yeah I'm not bothered by any of the other realism stuff, but every time I see someone do that it really gets under my skin. It's so uncomfortable to watch someone cut one of their most sensitive, must impractical areas just to get some blood out. It's like if I had to watch a scene where someone needed a few drops of their blood and so they chose to take a razor and make a slash right on their eyeball, like NOOOO WHAT ARE YOU DOING STOP WHY THERE??? And it happens over and over in so many shows! Ugh.
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Maybe the characters grew up seeing it in TV and movies (or comic books, I guess), so they slash their palms instinctively. Makes you think.
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Feb 18, 2023 08:02
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I would cut myself like Billy in Predator
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So unrealistic and inefficient, I would just punch myself in the kidneys so I could piss my blood into/against whatever is required.
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The true master’s technique is to ascend to the highest seats of a stadium (if in American media) or think sexual thoughts (if in Japanese media) so as to trigger painless and profuse bleeding from the nose.
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The only place it kinda made sense was DS9 with the blood tests, because they literally have magic space healing tech called dermal regenerators that are basically non-painful skin-welders.
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They do it in Stranger Things season 1 too. But they don't completely ignore it going forward, Jonathan and Nancy compare their scars in season 2. I'd just like to see Ellie have a bandage on her hand at the start of the next episode.
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Feb 18, 2023 09:49
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There's a really funny subplot about a dude who cuts the back of his hand in Evil.
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Chamale posted:The cut to the palm is another example of a cliche that, in my opinion, makes the show slightly worse. It's still a good show, the use of cliches doesn't ruin it, but it is still bad.
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Hobo Clown posted:Joel is seen doing hard labor and still has to smuggle drugs just to get by, and I'm supposed to believe he can afford a $300 jacket? I'm begging this show to please be more relatable I just can't get into the show unless they show the scene where he orders the jacket and splits the payments across multiple credit cards, then realizes some of those are already maxed out and has to shop around until he finds an online store that will sell it to him in instalments without any interest. And they never even show the detailed shipping and payment information on the website. It doesn't ruin the show but it definitely makes it worse.
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