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Yeah it's a really weird situation with the Jets. I'd rather have Carr if I was still in the market for an OC, but with Hackett there I'd lean towards Rodgers.
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Feb 17, 2023 19:48
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Taking into consideration the expected contract costs, draft capital costs, and age, I think I’d prefer Carr to Rodgers. By quite a bit.
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Feb 17, 2023 19:52
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I would be shocked if this visit with the intention of signing him without even knowing what Rodgers is doing because there are a lot of variables here. Rodgers is still probably the favorite. This could also be Carr drumming up a market for the Saints to up their offer.
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Feb 17, 2023 19:54
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mcmagic posted:If you have a Hackett/Carr pairing are you really looking at anything more than a wild card spot and maybe 1 playoff win if you're lucky? That is why I prefer Rodgers and his higher (much higher) ceiling. Aren't you constantly complaining about how embarrassing it is for the team to go a decade without a playoff game?
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Feb 17, 2023 19:56
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i bet carr is a 3 year window. meet me back here in 3 yrs
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syzpid posted:Aren't you constantly complaining about how embarrassing it is for the team to go a decade without a playoff game? I'm OK with any of Carr, Rodgers or Lamar but it has to be one of those 3. I'm just giving you my ranking of those 3.
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Really curious if the Packers would still trade Rodgers if he came out of his hole wanting to stay in GB? I mean, they did do essentially that with Favre, but that was super messy and you'd think they wouldn't want to repeat exactly that. https://twitter.com/AaronNagler/status/1626668035883802625
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Diva Cupcake posted:Really curious if the Packers would still trade Rodgers if he came out of his hole wanting to stay in GB? I mean, they did do essentially that with Favre, but that was super messy and you'd think they wouldn't want to repeat exactly that. I can't see any team trading for him without him saying he wanted to be there....
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Feb 17, 2023 20:49
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Winning fixes everything and I imagine they're getting sick of trying to plan around Rodgers being an absurd Diva
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mcmagic posted:I can't see any team trading for him without him saying he wanted to be there.... Favre didn't want to go to the Jets either. He wanted the Vikings or Bucs. Tannenbaum had do poo poo like show him northern Jersey hunting/fishing spots and allow him to wear camo and poo poo like that before he agreed.
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Feb 17, 2023 21:02
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mcmagic posted:I can't see any team trading for him without him saying he wanted to be there.... Yea, and Green Bay can’t cut him so if Rodgers says he wants to come back and won’t play elsewhere then they’re hosed. But I think Rodgers is extraordinarily vain so if some team says they really really wanted him then he’d probably want to go there. He wants to be treated like he’s a special snowflake.
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Feb 17, 2023 21:03
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There is nothing I want to see more than Rodgers in front of New York media
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Diva Cupcake posted:Right so if he emerges from the darkness wanting to be a Packer, they're probably not trading him. Which makes the reports about them already moving on kinda interesting. I kinda get the vibe that he's already decided that he wants to move on, and the whole darkness retreat is him deciding whether it's just from the Packers or from football altogether. Otherwise, I don't think we'd be getting these leaks about the Packers being done with him.
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Black Lighter posted:I kinda get the vibe that he's already decided that he wants to move on, and the whole darkness retreat is him deciding whether it's just from the Packers or from football altogether. Otherwise, I don't think we'd be getting these leaks about the Packers being done with him. This is probably what’s happening. Though the darkness thing could also just be performative as well
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There's worse things you could do before a big life decision than take a few days of quiet to contemplate it. I'd take a dumbphone and go to a cabin or a beach somewhere for a few days rather than lie in solitary but to each their own.
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Sataere posted:There is nothing I want to see more than Rodgers in front of New York media If they lose it will be a shitshow if they win he'll be a god.
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mcmagic posted:If they lose it will be a shitshow if they win he'll be a god. Either way, it'll be entertaining.
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Nobody cares about Favre's tenure in NY so kinda doubt it. Even the Nets meltdown hadn't presented any juicy headlines.
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I feel like the NY media hasn’t really been a thing in like 5 years
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CharlestheHammer posted:I feel like the NY media hasn’t really been a thing in like 5 years It's hard to judge the Zach Wilson+Daniel Jones+COVID years as anything more than a city being beaten down. To the point Jones finally making playoffs and getting a win is just a big change of pace there's not even legitimate backlash to it being a given he's getting a big payday extension in its aftermath
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I’m sure Aaron Rodgers is going to be very concerned by Rich Cimini and Brian Costello
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Hot Diggity! posted:Nobody cares about Favre's tenure in NY That's where we got the dick pic from, so you can't say it wasn't memorable in some fashion at least.
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Yeah but Farve gave that out, lazy media can’t expect everyone to just hand them a story
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There hasn’t been an honest to goodness agent of chaos beat writer in New York since Manish was blackballed. The writers we have now just report poo poo we already know.
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Yeah I doubt Rodgers with his gazillion dollars gives a poo poo about anyone in the media after he's spent the last two years having everyone bitch him out because he didn't want a vaccine and started shelving crystals.
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Hot Diggity! posted:Nobody cares about Favre's tenure in NY so kinda doubt it. Even the Nets meltdown hadn't presented any juicy headlines. There is literally not one person in New York who cares about the Nets.
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BlindSite posted:Yeah I doubt Rodgers with his gazillion dollars gives a poo poo about anyone in the media after he's spent the last two years having everyone bitch him out because he didn't want a vaccine and started shelving crystals. He’s spent the last two years having a continuous meltdown because people made fun of him online and regularly appears on podcasts to decry cancel culture and so on, he’s incredibly thin skinned and absolutely cares what people say about him publicly. I don’t think it has any effect on his performance, but getting roasted in the Post if he sucks would definitely make him do the “ I’m not mad, I’m actually laughing,” bit.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:he’s incredibly thin skinned This is not a particularly knew thing for Rodgers either, everyone already knew this for years. Now he's just in his hippie alternate medicine phase where it's both more frustrating and funnier.
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mcmagic posted:There is literally not one person in New York who cares about the Nets. People in Boston were more mad about anything Kyrie did and he hasn't played for them in almost four years
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mcmagic posted:There is literally not one person in New York who cares about the Nets. Definitely not true.
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Grittybeard posted:This is not a particularly knew thing for Rodgers either, everyone already knew this for years. Now he's just in his hippie alternate medicine phase where it's both more frustrating and funnier. Favre pranking Rodgers those few years will never not be funny. My favorite is when Rodgers did pre-season training with a signed helmet.
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I think the issue teams have to consider with Rodgers is that he doesn't want to work with new teammates over the offseason (or in the film room), plus he's old. with that in mind the Jets are probably his best situation because of Hackett. but even if you think he's the same physically as he was in 2020 it's a big risk dropping winnable September games cause he's not on the same page as his receivers yet could screw you in the WC race, which is where his primary landing spots project to be
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indigi posted:I think the issue teams have to consider with Rodgers is that he doesn't want to work with new teammates over the offseason (or in the film room), plus he's old. with that in mind the Jets are probably his best situation because of Hackett. but even if you think he's the same physically as he was in 2020 it's a big risk The teams that are that QB desperate don't have any perfect options unless Lamar is made available. And even he comes with some questions. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Feb 19, 2023 |
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totally true but I think Carr's floor is a lot higher than Rodgers, plus at least with Carr you aren't staring at the gaping chasm of dead cap off in the distance
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I mean Carr is going to get paid
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Carr’s cap hit this year is going to be significantly higher than Rodgers’ $16m hit for an acquiring team. If you’re trying to maximize for a 2 year window you take Rodgers and load up however you can. Get Orlando Brown or McGlinchey. Trade for DHop. Whatever.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean Carr is going to get paid I doubt his 2025 cap hit will be 60 million though
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If things go right with Carr you could have a franchise QB for the better part of a decade. If peak Rodgers still exists he's obviously the better player but there's almost no chance you'd get more than two seasons out of him.
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