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100YrsofAttitude posted:
I like your notes and appreciate them, but surely there's enough people who can read French that you shouldn't feel obligated.
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Xiahou Dun posted:I like your notes and appreciate them, but surely there's enough people who can read French that you shouldn't feel obligated. I think it's a grand effort
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 Rowe:  Knight:  Dan Andrews will hit 3000 days as Victorian premier on Monday and that milestone means he gets a bronze statue so we are getting some takes. Moir:  Leak, Son of Leak:  Leunig: 
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Wasn't sure what order to read that Leunig in. It didn't seem to make much of a difference though.Xiahou Dun posted:I like your notes and appreciate them, but surely there's enough people who can read French that you shouldn't feel obligated. I'm glad they help. Let's try posting them if only for the sake of the art. If you have any major questions let me know. These are definitely longer form comics. Charlie Hebdo Extra  Angoulême: A shipwreck of a festival This is an older piece on the BD Festival at Angoulême, but it's a good example of these longer form comics that are often reports in the field of their artists at events. The texts are typically pretty snide. There's talk of cancel culture in the introduction here for example, in respect to an artist, Vives, accused of pedophilia on social media. CH takes the stand that Vives should've been allowed to present regardless. :nsw:Breasts  A closer look: BD Author: Never happy This is a piece I was thinking of translating later this weekend, since there isn't too much text but going panel to panel is a bit much to do on a regular basis and sometimes the comics get taken off the front page and since I don't often dive into their archives there's a lot we end up missing. It covers complaints about a changing industry. To no one's surprise it's petty.  Both this and the above were done by Juin. The style here is different since like first comic Juin is reporting from the National Assembly on how they're voting/acting on the retirement law. It's pretty by the books reporting with some choice quotes on the right the best being the bottom right one, "If we live longer it's because we work less, but if we were to work more we'd begin to live less."  This isn't live drawings from this convention but rather a mocking piece on a parapsychological convention held near Paris. It's a long piece and with the text placement where it is, it'd be very tedious to write below a line by line translation. If I knew a quick and easy way to replace the text bubbles with my limited skill and equipment that'd likely be the best option.
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Grape posted:Star Fox: Pripyat Wars Do a war crime! (Z or R twice)
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idonotlikepeas posted:Darrin Bell Kellies nomination: Worst Label
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I haven’t checked on this thread in forever and maybe this has been discussed to death already, but how sure are we that Hitch isn’t Horsey’s alter ego?
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Jesus christ, the little badge with the crossed out star of david on it. gently caress off into the sun
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the_steve posted:https://twitter.com/happyroadkill/status/1626652568016326671?t=C99JLm5GK0Tsl7aKkHUwfA&s=19 I'm honestly kind of worried this WILL blow over and nothing will be done to meaningfully address the root problems that caused it to happen in the first place, thus allowing it to potentially happen again in a way that's as bad or even worse.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:I'm honestly kind of worried this WILL blow over and nothing will be done to meaningfully address the root problems that caused it to happen in the first place, thus allowing it to potentially happen again in a way that's as bad or even worse. We literally do not know the root cause. The preliminary report isn’t going to be out for around another week and a half. Everyone commenting is just trying to read their preferred narrative into it.
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Discendo Vox posted:We literally do not know the root cause. The preliminary report isn’t going to be out for around another week and a half. Everyone commenting is just trying to read their preferred narrative into it. Pretending like the root cause is totally unknowable and we can't make an educated guess based on recent history and what rail workers are saying about it is also reading a preferred narrative into it, hth.
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Was Nicola Sturgeon really bad or does the British press simply hate the fact she is Scottish? \/ Thank you, Angepain and Adenoid Dan for your replies! lllllllllllllllllll fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Feb 18, 2023 |
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I think part of it is that she's not a terf. Which they hate. But I only see a small amount of the coverage of her so I could be way off base.
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lllllllllllllllllll posted:Was Nicola Sturgeon really bad or does the British press simply hate the fact she is Scottish? She had her flaws but in short, yes the british press hate her for stupid reasons. Part of it is she's the figurehead for the abstract concept of scottish independence, and the british media refuse to understand the reasons people support that and assume it's a big cult of personality for Sturgeon personally. Also she's moderately left of center and has said nice things sbout how the EU and immigration is good actually, she (eventually) passed some minor trans rights reforms, and while she only handled covid slightly better than the UK government she never tried to downplay the danger of it like Boris et al did. She was not an actual leftist, but she was a competent and decent leader for the most part.
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Angepain posted:Jesus christ, the little badge with the crossed out star of david on it. gently caress off into the sun
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My mother in law has never lived in scotland or had any dealings with the snp or their policies and she despises nicola sturgeon to the extent we have to change the channel when she comes on because she just starts telling us at length how she's the worst politician to have ever existed in history, with the possible exception of gordon brown. Might just be Scottish people she has a problem with but it's very ingrained at this point
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Discendo Vox posted:We literally do not know the root cause. The preliminary report isn’t going to be out for around another week and a half. Everyone commenting is just trying to read their preferred narrative into it. Yeah, but I feel like my point still stands. It's less a commentary on this specific incident and more an acknowledgement that there's a long history of companies instituting terrible cost cutting policies and then continuing to inact those policies even after they've been shown to cause direct and obvious harm that could easily be avoided were those policies changed. It could be that this was just a freak accident, but there's also a chance it was caused by blatant disregard for safety procedures by upper management and if that's the case I'm concerned not enough will be done to force those in power to enact meaningful change.
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jesus gently caress, stop complaining about bug proteins! of all the worthless whining they do, i don't know why this one just seems so annoyingly pointless to me
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And meanwhile, back in 1950:  1 Managing to be clever and stupid at the same time. And yeah, Parrish and Orr are doing a lot of "heroic Tailgunner Joe bringing the truth to light" cartoons around this time.  2 3 4Again, striking design but silly message.  5Still going on about innocent little Teapot Dome in 1950. But then, there are still people trying to refight Watergate today.  . 6The Trib was very happy about the defeat of Claude Pepper, a lefty senator from Florida.  7Poor little rich stray cat!  8 9That is a truly excellent camel.  10 11 12 13
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Skios posted:A.F. Branco Last I checked a senator is also from the government. idonotlikepeas posted:Clay Bennett Hey, out of curiosity, what were Bennett's cartoons like when Trump took that cognitive test? Shut the gently caress up, Bennett.
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Discendo Vox posted:We literally do not know the root cause. Are you loving serious
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It's no skull donkey, but nose donkey has a great face, though it's a little terrifying when it's on a long neck. (I am very bad at editing) 
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Yeah, but I feel like my point still stands. It's less a commentary on this specific incident and more an acknowledgement that there's a long history of companies instituting terrible cost cutting policies and then continuing to inact those policies even after they've been shown to cause direct and obvious harm that could easily be avoided were those policies changed. You asserted, directly, "the root problems that caused it to happen in the first place", following from a twitter cartoon that similarly just asserted them. Don't do that.
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We know that deregulation makes these accidents more likely. That's enough. If we wait for definitive analysis, that can take months. The story will have faded and the opportunity for discussion will be mostly gone.
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Adenoid Dan posted:We know that deregulation makes these accidents more likely. That's enough. If we wait for definitive analysis, that can take months. The story will have faded and the opportunity for discussion will be mostly gone. a) This is not "definitive analysis", it's "literally any formal investigation from the agencies responsible". b) It's coming out in days. c) There is absolutely nothing preventing "the opportunity for discussion" when we actually have information about what has happened. d) You should not prioritize making up things you want to believe and relying on them in order to get the conclusions you want.
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Discendo Vox posted:a) This is not "definitive analysis", it's "literally any formal investigation from the agencies responsible". The news cycle absolutely limits opportunity for impactful discussion on any issue.
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Adenoid Dan posted:The news cycle absolutely limits opportunity for impactful discussion on any issue. a. No, it doesn't, especially not here, which is where people are internalizing and making these claims without evidence. The report is public- it doesn't have to be mediated for us to understand or discuss it. b. Do you really think "the news cycle" isn't going to cover the actual investigation? c. Even if all of this were true, it would not justify misrepresenting the actual facts of the situation in order to have "impactful discussion" - lying to pursue goals unmoored from reality.
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You can organize your arguments in something other that bullet points, yknow?
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Hihohe posted:You can organize your arguments in something other that bullet points, yknow? 1) No 2) You won't care
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Nobody is just making things up out of thin air. This has followed a rail worker strike where the main issues were safety related, and initial reports have pointed to a mechanical issue with an axle. This didn't happen in a vacuum. Adenoid Dan fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Feb 18, 2023 |
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Discendo Vox posted:a. No, it doesn't, especially not here, which is where people are internalizing and making these claims without evidence. The report is public- it doesn't have to be mediated for us to understand or discuss it.
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Adenoid Dan posted:Nobody is just making things up out of thin air. This has followed a rail worker strike where the main issues were safety related, and initial reports have pointed to a mechanical issue with an axle. You are admitting you don't actually know what went wrong, but you want to assume it's something specific to push for a political agenda. Just because I might agree with those political beliefs doesn't make that not intensely hosed up and a symptom of why we can't have a functioning government. We need to actually know what the root cause of the problem is.
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HootTheOwl posted:Of course it does, especially here. If I quote a post from a week ago and say "the report was out, I accept your apology" I'll rightfully be probed as the psycho I am. If anything our focus, here in a thread, is even smaller because we cycle through topics even quicker than the media who has to fill up dead air. The reason you'd be probed isn't just for being a psycho, but for lacking object permanence: you'd using information you didn't previously have to say that you already had it, and you're using it to justify attacking someone for correctly identifying that you didn't have that information in the past.
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Xiahou Dun posted:You are admitting you don't actually know what went wrong, but you want to assume it's something specific to push for a political agenda. Why do we have to wait for the root cause of this crash to oppose deregulation and lack of safety standards, we already know those things are a problem. If they didn't cause this accident, they'll cause some accident. Not to say finding the root cause of this crash isn't important on it's own. Of course it is! If it turns out to be something else we need to know so we can fix that too. But I don't see why we have to wait to fix other problems we know exist whether they contributed to this particular crash or not.
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VitalSigns posted:Why do we have to wait for the root cause of this crash to oppose deregulation and lack of safety standards, we already know those things are a problem. If they didn't cause this accident, they'll cause some accident. Did I say that? I've opposed deregulation for my entire adult life and I'm going to do that regardless. And deregulation is a natural and probable factor in at least making this tragedy as bad as it seems to be. But that's actually why I'm careful to wait for information. Because I give a poo poo about regulating public infrastructure and the handling of toxic materials, I want to be correct when I argue for them. It weakens my argument long-term if I sweep in bad evidence because it short term could grift me some good press. You basically just said, "Hey, this is a good cause, so why don't you use some bad faith arguments to promote it?" Because I actually care about my positions.
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