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bird food bathtub posted:Sure the "no way to prevent this" gimmick sucks but it's a really, really clean mirror of reality. It shows exactly how much a society that can shrug off entire classes of kindergarteners decorating classroom walls with their brains also sucks. It all sucks and it's not going to get fixed, so what else is there really to do but scream in to that void? Gun tech and gun laws haven't really changed in generations but eventually we just become so hosed up as to think, wow let's just slaughter each other because we're mad at Facebook. A country just straight up racing backwards as a society, and we weren't even that good to start with. We can no longer be trusted with guns and I remember when that was something we relentlessly mocked other countries for.
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slurm posted:Gun tech and gun laws haven't really changed in generations but eventually we just become so hosed up as to think, wow let's just slaughter each other because we're mad at Facebook. A country just straight up racing backwards as a society, and we weren't even that good to start with. We can no longer be trusted with guns and I remember when that was something we relentlessly mocked other countries for. I hope we don’t race backward too far; the past was an even worse place to exist in America, aside from wildlife flaura/fauna biodiversity. I don’t think most shooters give a poo poo about facebook either. I guess some shooters are pretty old, but still.
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mlmp08 posted:I hope we don’t race backward too far; the past was an even worse place to exist in America, aside from wildlife flaura/fauna biodiversity. It's all the same adtech poo poo pushing radicalization for clicks. Facebook for the old ones, telegram for the youths, God knows where the millennials got radicalized, probably chans. edit: my point isn't that the past was necessarily better, just farther from exploding into an orgy of violence that none will survive and/or balkanizing into Big Syria. slurm fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Feb 17, 2023 |
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slurm posted:Gun tech and gun laws haven't really changed in generations but eventually we just become so hosed up as to think, wow let's just slaughter each other because we're mad at Facebook. A country just straight up racing backwards as a society, and we weren't even that good to start with. We can no longer be trusted with guns and I remember when that was something we relentlessly mocked other countries for. Gun laws have been changing a lot in the last few decades. It's just not a lot of lawmakers making changes at the federal level. It's a lot of state changes and ATF administrative changes.
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Yeah. States have gone a long way in legalizing CCW and shall-issue permits over the last couple decades.
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CainFortea posted:Gun laws have been changing a lot in the last few decades. There hasn't been a time since the invention of repeating firearms where you couldn't just go out and buy a big repeating firearm of some kind and go do a massacre. The rest of this stuff (NFA, AWB, CCW laws etc.) is just window dressing except, and I think this is kind of a separate thing that comes with the cultural shift and which I can talk about all day, brandishing has basically been enshrined as a god-given right which probably emboldens the poo poo out of political street fighters and mass shooters because there's nothing they can even be hassled for until the instant they pull the trigger, and usually they can bully someone into giving them a "good shoot" Kyle-style. loving insane that you can just wave a gun around all day now. edit: and while I'm ranting I think the loving plates make these guys feel immortal no matter how false or dumb that is.
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slurm posted:There hasn't been a time since the invention of repeating firearms where you couldn't just go out and buy a big repeating firearm of some kind and go do a massacre. Depending on your race and creed and local laws, yes there absolutely has been, unless you mean via black market connections or forgot about nonwhite dudes.
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mlmp08 posted:Depending on your race and creed and local laws, yes there absolutely has been, unless you mean via black market connections or forgot about nonwhite dudes. Overwhelmingly a radicalized right-wing white pastime imo, this is pretty irrelevant.
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guns are like pitbulls, the people who really want to own them, shouldnt
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BREAKING: Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient Rush Limbaugh has been sober for two years
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Platystemon posted:BREAKING: Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient Rush Limbaugh has been sober for two years every time i see this thread title it is a small spark of joy in my dead cold heart quote:Right Wing Media: your daily reminder that Rush Limbaugh is dead again congrats on two years and here's hoping many others join you
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Zamujasa posted:every time i see this thread title it is a small spark of joy in my dead cold heart What's even more heartwarming is that this is the only mention he gets.
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Platystemon posted:BREAKING: Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient Rush Limbaugh has been sober for two years https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1626699285168287745?s=20
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isEiygyttjo orange juche fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Feb 18, 2023 |
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That anonymous mourner? A Sackler.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:That anonymous mourner? A Sackler. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLVSXiQeTDU orange juche fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Feb 18, 2023 |
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bird food bathtub posted:Sure the "no way to prevent this" gimmick sucks but it's a really, really clean mirror of reality. It shows exactly how much a society that can shrug off entire classes of kindergarteners decorating classroom walls with their brains also sucks. It all sucks and it's not going to get fixed, so what else is there really to do but scream in to that void? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22No_Way_to_Prevent_This%22,_Says_Only_Nation_Where_This_Regularly_Happens An article so prevalent that it has a Wikipedia article.
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We're officially on deathwatch for Jimmy Carter, so points to you if you have him in a deathpool: https://twitter.com/CarterCenter/status/1627039245025280003?t=zmkLPp1488zMdomonNv4Vg&s=19
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facialimpediment posted:We're officially on deathwatch for Jimmy Carter, so points to you if you have him in a deathpool: This has to be Kissinger's fault somehow.
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CommieGIR posted:This has to be Kissinger's fault somehow. Isn't everything, ultimately?
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Sucks. Jimmy probably most likeable living pres. The smear job he's going to receive for his troubles is going to be appalling
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Well soon he'll be the most likeable dead president so uh silver linings...
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Carter is probably the least objectionable president in 60 years, but that’s not the highest of bars during the cold war and gwot. A lot of the current instability in central america is directly his fault. Building some homes for disadvantaged people doesn’t exactly make up for for arming and supporting a bunch of terrorist groups. e: Goes without saying he's mostly going to be smeared for not being bloodthirsty enough, but let's not pretend the man was a saint because he did volunteer work after retiring. AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Feb 18, 2023 |
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Carter is probably the least objectionable president in 60 years, but that’s not the highest of bars during the cold war and gwot. A lot of the current instability in central america is directly his fault. Building some homes for disadvantaged people doesn’t exactly make up for for arming and supporting a bunch of terrorist groups. If all you know is that he build a couple houses, you are completely unqualified to have an opinion on him.
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The projection by the GOP and its followers upon everyone else when, really, they're describing themselves, continues to be remarkable.
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It reminds me of the Soviet developing a whole biological weapon program on the assumption that the Americans obviously had one.
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FrozenVent posted:It reminds me of the Soviet developing a whole biological weapon program on the assumption that the Americans obviously had one. What’s twenty tonnes of variola virus per annum between friends?
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Stultus Maximus posted:If all you know is that he build a couple houses, you are completely unqualified to have an opinion on him. It's reductive, sure. But when it comes down it, he raised money for a charity to build houses after prioritizing tax cuts while he was president. He put his time into negotiating peace as a private citizen after sending weapons to right wing militias on multiple continents when he was in charge of US foreign policy. I just think we should take it with a grain of salt when someone tries to whitewash their actions when they were actually in power with charitable work after the fact. The Obama Foundation does good work too, but it doesn't excuse him murdering hundreds of children with drones. Some things you can't come back from. AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Feb 19, 2023 |
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Like being president of the USA
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It seems like every President is some form of an evil son of a bitch while they’re in office, but as far as living ex-presidents go, Carter seems like more of a decent man than anyone else. At least he didn’t start two wars or try to foment a coup so he could stay in office.
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pantslesswithwolves posted:It seems like every President is some form of an evil son of a bitch while they’re in office, but as far as living ex-presidents go, Carter seems like more of a decent man than anyone else. At least he didn’t start two wars or try to foment a coup so he could stay in office. Scribbles “Peanut Republic” in journal of novel ideas.
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That’s like the lowest bar imaginable though. You can believe that as a man, Carter has devoted a huge part of his life to active volunteering and charity work and that’s laudable. You can also believe, in the same thought, that he was a lackluster president who squandered opportunities to achieve Democratic policy goals and undertook some really nasty actions on behalf of capitalism and anti-communism. It’s ok to feel both things at the same time. Humans are complex and so can your opinions of them.
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sir this is the internet, there is no place for that kind of thinking here
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He’s the only president who gives me the feeling that he actually tried his best to make the world a better place.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:It's reductive, sure. But when it comes down it, he raised money for a charity to build houses after prioritizing tax cuts while he was president. He put his time into negotiating peace as a private citizen after sending weapons to right wing militias on multiple continents when he was in charge of US foreign policy. No, calling the work that the Carter Center did "building some houses" and blaming Carter for the instability in Central America is not reductive it's flat out dishonest.
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Stultus Maximus posted:No, calling the work that the Carter Center did "building some houses" No, that's that Habitat for Humanity work, And as a reminder, his administration turned down proposals to expand welfare including a UBI scheme and decided to pitch republican work requirement bullshit instead. He pushed for austerity and tax cuts as a response to economic problems, he created way more homeless people than his charity work got housed. Stultus Maximus posted:and blaming Carter for the instability in Central America is not reductive it's flat out dishonest. So Carter didn't authorize the CIA to fund anti-Sandinista guerillas in Nicaragua?
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:No, that's that Habitat for Humanity work, And as a reminder, his administration turned down proposals to expand welfare including a UBI scheme and decided to pitch republican work requirement bullshit instead. He pushed for austerity and tax cuts as a response to economic problems, he created way more homeless people than his charity work got housed. Okay, so you actually don't know what the Carter Center does. quote:So Carter didn't authorize the CIA to fund anti-Sandinista guerillas in Nicaragua? Or what over a century of American involvement in Latin America was. You dumb. Bye.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Okay, so you actually don't know what the Carter Center does. No, that was mentioned above too - it's good diplomacy and public health work that for whatever reason wasn't a priority when he had the weight of the US executive branch behind him. Stultus Maximus posted:Or what over a century of American involvement in Latin America was. "The other guys did it too" is not a great ethical argument. Carter had the choice not to arm those guerillas and exacerbate a civil war, but he went for it anyway. Look, there's no argument he was less bad than the other guys. But there hasn't been a president for a long time that wasn't a murderous bastard when it comes to foreign policy, and only a few of them haven't exacerbated the increase of economic inequality since the second world war (actually any of them? LBJ maybe, and his foreign policy ... yeah). The political system in the US is not set up to put good people in power. AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Feb 19, 2023 |
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