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Is the Breen helmet the same one that Leia wears when meeting Jabba in Return of the Jedi
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Still making my way through TOS for the first time. "There is no right way to hit a woman" is currently the weirdest quote I've encountered.
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Feb 17, 2023 19:45
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Meatgrinder posted:Still making my way through TOS for the first time. "There is no right way to hit a woman" is currently the weirdest quote I've encountered. Reese's ads got weird in the 23rd century.
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Feb 17, 2023 20:00
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Meatgrinder posted:Still making my way through TOS for the first time. "There is no right way to hit a woman" is currently the weirdest quote I've encountered. On the one hand, it's good of the show to say "Violence against women is always wrong", but at the same time TOS was misogynistic as poo poo so ehhhh
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Feb 17, 2023 20:09
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Rewatching season 1 of TOS along with the Nextlander Watchcast provided some real whiplash from things that seemed fairly progressive for their time, immediately followed by oh.. oh god.
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Feb 17, 2023 21:09
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Meatgrinder posted:Still making my way through TOS for the first time. "There is no right way to hit a woman" is currently the weirdest quote I've encountered. "So do it the wrong way"
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Feb 17, 2023 21:24
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Wait until you get to the end of The Enemy Within...
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Feb 17, 2023 21:26
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nine-gear crow posted:On the one hand, it's good of the show to say "Violence against women is always wrong", but at the same time TOS was misogynistic as poo poo so ehhhh Yeah, mixed messages abound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooypmDJX4k8
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Feb 17, 2023 21:41
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Wait until you get to the end of The Enemy Within... Yeah I know, I've seen it, I'm watching the episodes in order of production I am also surprised at how much of the Star Trek I already know is rooted in TOS, storywise and characterwise
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Feb 17, 2023 21:50
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Honestly, when you get to Season 3 just use a watchlist because it's really slim pickings for decent episodes
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Feb 18, 2023 03:38
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You have to watch Spock's Brain in whole every time it's available.
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Feb 18, 2023 18:49
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FlamingLiberal posted:Honestly, when you get to Season 3 just use a watchlist because it's really slim pickings for decent episodes Yeah, that season's episodes run the gamut from "dogshit" (Turnabout Intruder) to "decent ideas, poor execution" (Wink of An Eye) to "good episode" (Enterprise Incident). I'd say about 95% of it is chaff, though.
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Feb 18, 2023 18:55
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Yeah, that season's episodes run the gamut from "dogshit" (Turnabout Intruder) to "decent ideas, poor execution" (Wink of An Eye) to "good episode" (Enterprise Incident). I'd say about 95% of it is chaff, though. Enterprise Incident Is There in Truth No Beauty? Day of the Dove Tholian Web (even if it is a little overwrought, it’s good by season 3 standards) 83% chaff, to be precise. (And I know it’s crap, but I’ll always have a soft spot in my heart for Spectre of the Gun, but I realize that I’m a Herbert and have removed it from contention.) What boggles me is you have all of the off-season to work on scripts and ideas. Your budget hasn’t been blown yet. You could climb onto the mound with your strikeout (Enterprise Incident or Day of the Dove, I’d say). No need to check the bases; it’s the top of the inning. You look at the catcher’s signal, nod, wind up, and pitch Spock’s Brain right at the batter’s hip.
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Feb 18, 2023 19:40
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Star Trek always struggled to get shootable scripts and the knowledge that it was a doomed series didn't help matters either. It's not like they had a big staff of writers that wrote all the scripts for the season.
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Feb 18, 2023 20:04
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Admiralty Flag posted:83% chaff, to be precise. (And I know it’s crap, but I’ll always have a soft spot in my heart for Spectre of the Gun, but I realize that I’m a Herbert and have removed it from contention.) Spectre of the Gun is worth watching for the set design alone. That episode is amazing to look at. The story isn't that bad either, at least by season 3 standards.
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Feb 18, 2023 20:17
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Season 3 is a lame duck. The network had already killed the show and this was the resurrected version, now with less money, less writers and a new producer who described the show as "tits in space". Coon wrote the episode along these lines, tongue in cheek. Hot chicks literally steal the show's brain.
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Feb 18, 2023 20:49
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I think Spectre is a great episode, and I really like the scene where Kirk confronts the Sheriff and practically begs him for an alternative to killing the Earps. A lot is said about Shatner's acting but I think he plays it well in that scene. I've probably mentioned this before and don't remember: For The World Is Hollow is an odd one. It takes us through several bombshells - main character has a degenerative disease that will kill them, main character decides to leave Starfleet and join the Fabrini, main character immediately falls in love with one of the natives. But these happen so fast that you're not given time to absorb any of it; the pace is ADHD. The episode feels like a rough/first draft that someone looked at and said, "Good enough; film it".
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Feb 18, 2023 20:51
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I think Spectre is a great episode, and I really like the scene where Kirk confronts the Sheriff and practically begs him for an alternative to killing the Earps. A lot is said about Shatner's acting but I think he plays it well in that scene. This one is kind of a mess, but I love the setting. Other decent S3 episodes imo “The Savage Curtain”. Spends a bit too long on Kirk and Lincoln before getting to the secondary premise of the fight, which kicks rear end. “All Our Yesterdays”. Kind of a companion to World is Hollow imo, Spock romance with a weirdly depressing doomed-planet setting “The Cloud Minders”. Kirk tries to finagle unethically mined pesticide out of a planet of sky-dwelling slavemasters. “Plato’s Stepchildren”. Just loving weird
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Feb 18, 2023 21:01
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A.o.D. posted:You have to watch Spock's Brain in whole every time it's available. What's strange about it is that aside from two MAJOR problems, there's something lurking in there. If you had a whole Spock stolen instead of trying to figure out how an entire person can survive without a brain and you didn't have the part where you can remote control an entire person with four buttons, it sort of turns into a hybrid of Picard gets kidnapped by the Borg and when Barclay turns into the ship's computer. You can even leave in the part where Spock performs brain surgery on himself!
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Feb 18, 2023 22:16
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skasion posted:“All Our Yesterdays”. Kind of a companion to World is Hollow imo, Spock romance with a weirdly depressing doomed-planet setting The inhabitants were "prepared" to be sent back in time to whatever era they wanted. Okay. How was it that they didn't screw up the timeline that allowed the science that prepared them?
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Feb 18, 2023 22:28
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Mister Kingdom posted:The inhabitants were "prepared" to be sent back in time to whatever era they wanted. Okay. How was it that they didn't screw up the timeline that allowed the science that prepared them? It could be that's what they were "prepared" for. But then again, from their point of view why should they care? Their planet is about to die anyway, if they screw up the timeline somehow that is probably a bonus.
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Feb 18, 2023 23:10
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"Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" and "Requiem for Methuselah" both have problems, but they're enjoyable stories I think. They're not great episodes, but they're decent sci-fi, which is what TOS is on the whole "All Our Yesterdays" is also good and should be watched instead of "Turnabout Intruder"
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Feb 18, 2023 23:13
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As far as I'm concerned, All Our Yesterdays is the final episode of TOS. It works better as a finale anyway. You could even tie the plot into TMP. Maybe Spock was so concerned about his emotional outbursts in this episode and Plato's Stepchildren and felt like he needed to undergo the Kolinahr to re-center himself. F_Shit_Fitzgerald fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Feb 19, 2023 |
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Feb 19, 2023 00:00
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Which episode was it that had Spock jamming with the space hippies?
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Feb 19, 2023 00:55
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wesleywillis posted:Which episode was it that had Spock jamming with the space hippies? The Way To Eden. Yeah, brother!
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Feb 19, 2023 01:18
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I really should go back and watch the TOS I haven't done that in a while.
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Feb 19, 2023 02:00
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wesleywillis posted:Which episode was it that had Spock jamming with the space hippies? What are you, a Herbert?
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Feb 19, 2023 02:03
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LMAO at Geordi failure at dating in the early episodes of TNG. He's such a loser
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Feb 19, 2023 03:04
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Sash! posted:What's strange about it is that aside from two MAJOR problems, there's something lurking in there. Well, of course there's something good in there; Gene Coon wrote it.
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Feb 19, 2023 03:07
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Hollismason posted:LMAO at Geordi failure at dating in the early episodes of TNG. He's such a loser Picard S3 ep 3 spoiler Geordi married to a Soong golem implanted with a holo Leah. They even have a kid but they do nothing with the concept, basically ignore it.
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Feb 19, 2023 03:38
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Khanstant posted:Picard S3 ep 3 spoiler Geordi married to a Soong golem implanted with a holo Leah. They even have a kid but they do nothing with the concept, basically ignore it. Well that's not creepy as hell or anything.
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Feb 19, 2023 03:48
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Khanstant posted:Picard S3 ep 3 spoiler Geordi married to a Soong golem implanted with a holo Leah. They even have a kid but they do nothing with the concept, basically ignore it. lmao
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Feb 19, 2023 03:49
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Khanstant posted:Picard S3 ep 3 spoiler Geordi married to a Soong golem implanted with a holo Leah. They even have a kid but they do nothing with the concept, basically ignore it. This is so stupid but also 100% within Picard’s usual writing quality that I’m honestly having a hard time deciding if it’s real
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Feb 19, 2023 04:35
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Oh drat just got to the absolutely banger of a episode The Hunted S3 E11 and its just absolutely fantastic how this guy clowns the people on the Enterprise.
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Feb 19, 2023 04:42
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Khanstant posted:Picard S3 ep 3 spoiler Geordi married to a Soong golem implanted with a holo Leah. They even have a kid but they do nothing with the concept, basically ignore it. Please be real please be real please be real please be real
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Feb 19, 2023 04:59
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Big Mean Jerk posted:This is so stupid but also 100% within Picard’s usual writing quality that I’m honestly having a hard time deciding if it’s real This but the entire show every time I hear anything about it.
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Feb 19, 2023 05:14
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I hope Geordi's android wife turns out to be Lore posing as a copy of Leah Brahms. That would rule in the worst way  Star Trek needs to go back to it's ABCs: Always Sexually Humiliate Geordi wait
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Feb 19, 2023 05:14
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Khanstant posted:Picard S3 ep 3 spoiler Geordi married to a Soong golem implanted with a holo Leah. They even have a kid but they do nothing with the concept, basically ignore it. If it's real, there was a youtuber that called it.
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Feb 19, 2023 05:18
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SlothfulCobra posted:If it's real, there was a youtuber that called it. Was he wearing a mask that looked suspiciously like a urinal? 
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Hollismason posted:LMAO at Geordi failure at dating in the early episodes of TNG. He's such a loser Yeah but then space Jesus uses magic powers to give him his mojo back, then Crusher falls in love with space Jesus
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