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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I think Jhet means using it when you use salt. You def don't want to use the same amount, you don't need as much MSG. I don't have a rule but like, 20% of how much salt you're using? At most?

I also clearly don't use as much tho, I also do the little hand shaker and that lasts me a long time.

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Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Yeah I have the little ajimoto shaker that I refill from a 2# ajimoto bag.

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

droll posted:

1:1 ratio seems crazy high to me. I'm not saying anyone's wrong, just, woah.

I don't use it at 1:1 usually, but it does get used as frequently as salt. I'd say it's about an 1/8th of a teaspoon? I don't measure these things, it just goes in by how I'm tasting the dish that day. Like a big pot of chili will get a higher ratio of msg to salt than a gravy for a roast. It adds depth of flavor without fuss.

Wonton
Jul 5, 2012
My mouth gets really thirsty and dry afterwards if I go to restaurants that add too much of it.

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

Wonton posted:

Lee kum kee is only good for soy sauces, light/dark/steam fish/ and oyster sauces.

Their dbj and anything spice related is garbage. That’s because Lee kum kee is a Hong Kong company catering to Cantonese tastes- can’t handle any spices.

Lao gan ma or anything in south west China should be a lot better

i once went on a tinder date with someone who said they were the great grandchild of lee kum sheung and i asked if I could get an oyster sauce hookup and they said no :smith:

mystes
May 31, 2006

Ailumao posted:

i once went on a tinder date with someone who said they were the great grandchild of lee kum sheung and i asked if I could get an oyster sauce hookup and they said no :smith:
When you think about it maybe you did get an oyster sauce hookup though

Wonton
Jul 5, 2012

Ailumao posted:

i once went on a tinder date with someone who said they were the great grandchild of lee kum sheung and i asked if I could get an oyster sauce hookup and they said no :smith:

Should have asked for some abalone sauce, you dummy

mystes
May 31, 2006

I'm temporarily in another state and I went to an Asian market and I was finally able to get my hands on a jug of legit shaoxing wine that isn't salty cooking wine

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo
Chinese cooking thread, please give me the lowdown on those stone-texture/color woks compared to iron.

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

SwissArmyDruid posted:

Chinese cooking thread, please give me the lowdown on those stone-texture/color woks compared to iron.

Do you mean the stoneware woks or are they making enameled cast iron as well? It’s mostly unnecessary as cookware in general and I’d not want it for regular wok use. Cast iron or carbon steel is where I’d go still.

However, stoneware is good for braising and soups, so if that’s what you’re making in it then it’ll be good at holding heat and keeping the food warm. There are probably better shapes for it than a wok shape.

mystes
May 31, 2006

What "stone-texture/color woks"?

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo
I mean these things.



They are not the thinness of carbon steel, nor are they the weight of cast iron. I assume it's thick aluminum with a coating, but I don't know what the coating is.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I have no idea what that is but the fact it says non stick means I wouldn't buy it.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice
I like enamelled for regular frying/stove stuff. My sauce pan with the honeycomb pattern (Hexclad?) has been pretty good for mapo tofu actually, but I'm just using it temporarily until I get a portable gas burner. :twisted:

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Those things look horribly cheap but some of the Asian markets near me that's like 90% of their stock of woks

I am considering getting a carbon steel wok to go with my cast iron just so I have one that is not heavy enough to rip my arm out the socket when carefully plating stuff

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

Wowporn posted:

Those things look horribly cheap but some of the Asian markets near me that's like 90% of their stock of woks

I am considering getting a carbon steel wok to go with my cast iron just so I have one that is not heavy enough to rip my arm out the socket when carefully plating stuff

Those are just the ones that they bought a box of and no one buys I’d bet.

Carbon steel is pretty great for me though and I still haven’t replaced the glass top stove that I have right now. Heats up hot enough to put things through in batch style and then toss everything together really easily and season. It also works really great on my propane burner outside to the extent that it takes maybe 3 minutes to do a whole dish and dry fried beans are done in 60 seconds or less and super nicely blistered.

Nickoten
Oct 16, 2005

Now there'll be some quiet in this town.

Wonton posted:

Yes “soy sauce for seafood” even though in Chinese it’s written as steam fish soy sauce :ohdear:

https://hk.lkk.com/en/products/seasoned-soy-sauce-for-seafood

It’s basically regular soy sauce cooked in scalding hot oil and scallions which you pour over your steamed fish or seafood at the last minute.

Basically the steam fish is supposed to be slightly undercooked but the thin coat of hot soy sauce makes the fish just right and let’s the meat flake when you use your chopsticks.

Looking at the US sent, I’m glad there’s finally the double fermented soy sauce. It’s not cheap, but using it makes your Cantonese cooking near top-level restaurant quality. There’s enough umami/fragrance without you needing to slather it all over your pan/wok.

Stuff like pearl and river bridge makes your food too salty too easily which gives you that syrupy takeout taste/texture

To be honest I had no idea what double fermented meant when I bought that, it just sounded good. Is that the kind of light soy Cantonese restaurants tend to use?

goodness
Jan 3, 2012

When the light turns green, you go. When the light turns red, you stop. But what do you do when the light turns blue with orange and lavender spots?
Uh, what did my doubanjiang grow? Is it yeast, doesn't look like any food mold I've seen before.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice
That certainly looks like a fungus.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Yikes. Throw that poo poo out.

Scythe
Jan 26, 2004
Some wild poo poo has happened there. That looks so white and dry it reminds me of the safe/good mold on very good aged salami, but yeah unless you’re a master charcutier uhhh I’d dump that.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

mystes posted:

I'm temporarily in another state and I went to an Asian market and I was finally able to get my hands on a jug of legit shaoxing wine that isn't salty cooking wine

did you like it

mystes
May 31, 2006

fart simpson posted:

did you like it
I did

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo

goodness posted:

Uh, what did my doubanjiang grow? Is it yeast, doesn't look like any food mold I've seen before.



that is so white and dry, I *almost* wonder if it's crystallized something precipitating out of solution. I'd still toss it out for safety.

Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

Our posts
Yeh but those weird browny yellow blobs....

My ex chef has never seen anything like it.

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013
That’s nothing precipitating. Those are both molds. The yellow globs will be sort of slimy and the white dry one looks the least horrible of them. I do some amateur yeast wrangling and that’s what the agar plates look like when they’re infected. The white stuff could be okay as that’s similar to what yeast/useful bacteria can possibly look like, but you can’t tell just by looking at a standard picture and would need to plate and test.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

agreed. please plate and test. im curious what it tastes like

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo

Ranter posted:

Yeh but those weird browny yellow blobs....

My ex chef has never seen anything like it.

Oh ick, I did not see those on my phone earlier, but I see them on my computer now. Jesus, throw that out, pronto.

Scythe
Jan 26, 2004

fart simpson posted:

agreed. please plate and test. im curious what it tastes like

marshalljim
Mar 6, 2013

yospos
I also am curious what that tastes like to someone other than myself.

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

marshalljim posted:

I also am curious what that tastes like to someone other than myself.

I would guess maybe like an excess of butyric acid in 4-8 hours. But maybe just like rotten banana. So many options.

I did attempt to make my own doubanjiang at one point, but I had issues with the crock and it went off through bad fermentation management on my end. Definitely was full of yellow and brown colors and slimes that shouldn't have been there. I'm planning my garden to attempt again with a better pepper source this year (this is assuming I don't just manage to eat them all again instead).

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
Friends, I've decided that I want to do something useful with my propane tank and the idea was to get a serious burner and a fine carbon steel wok. Can you point me in the right direction what I should be looking for in terms of burner?

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

Power Khan posted:

Friends, I've decided that I want to do something useful with my propane tank and the idea was to get a serious burner and a fine carbon steel wok. Can you point me in the right direction what I should be looking for in terms of burner?

This is what I have on order right now after getting recommendations elsewhere on SA

https://outdoorstirfry.com/product/powerflamer-iei-propane-160-long-lead-time/

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

This is what I have on order right now after getting recommendations elsewhere on SA

https://outdoorstirfry.com/product/powerflamer-iei-propane-160-long-lead-time/

Quoting this so I can find it in 6 months when I might get to do some outdoor space remodeling.

It looks much better than the Bayou burners for heat distribution.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

This is what I have on order right now after getting recommendations elsewhere on SA

https://outdoorstirfry.com/product/powerflamer-iei-propane-160-long-lead-time/

Holy poo poo, that is indeed serious.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo


claypot rice with chicken, lap cheong, and shitake.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo
Wow. Hate to double post, but I come seeking inspiration. I want to do fu yu chicken wings, but like, American-style buffalo wings tossed in fu yu.

Any ideas on what I might let it down with to get the right consistency for tossing? Some shaoxing, some dark or low-sodium soy sauce, a little black vinegar, sesame oil? That sound like it might work?

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

SwissArmyDruid posted:

Wow. Hate to double post, but I come seeking inspiration. I want to do fu yu chicken wings, but like, American-style buffalo wings tossed in fu yu.

Any ideas on what I might let it down with to get the right consistency for tossing? Some shaoxing, some dark or low-sodium soy sauce, a little black vinegar, sesame oil? That sound like it might work?

American style wing sauce is about 1/3 butter, so probably adjust for oil content to get it to stick. It’s essentially a pan sauce so treat it as such. I’d skip on the shaoxing in the sauce and use it in a marinade instead.

I’d also give it a quick fry and add oil last to get a cohesive sauce first. I’m assuming just fried/oven baked wings and not breaded though. Breaded you’ll probably want a bit of sugar to make more of a glaze if it’s too thin and just soaks into the breading.

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

This is what I have on order right now after getting recommendations elsewhere on SA

https://outdoorstirfry.com/product/powerflamer-iei-propane-160-long-lead-time/

I got their other slightly more basic stove: https://outdoorstirfry.com/product/powerflamer-propane-160-long-lead-time/. I actually ordered the pilot light version but they shipped me one with an electric igniter anyway. Not sure what the difference is between this one and the "integrated" one is. Mine has a valve for the gas and a piezo igniter valve. So you turn the gas on a bit, then open the piezo valve until it clicks and ignites the piezo burner which ignites the main burner, then turn off the piezo valve (because it can overheat the element supposedly). I guess the other one is more of a standard gas stove style?

Oh if you get the cheaper electronic version just be careful of the igniter gas line. I bent it at some point and it had a really hard time lighting until I bent it back.

I love the hell out of it, I can crank out some good stir fry. I just take it out to my driveway or my patio depending on how the wind blows. Too much wind is still a problem for it, but a breeze can be worked around. It's definitely got plenty of power. It doesn't really use much gas either. I got a 15 lb propane tank at the start of the season last year and I was stir-frying like once per week until it got too cold. I don't think I've even used half of the tank yet.

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Wonton
Jul 5, 2012
What kind of fuyu? The pink one or the white one? Apparently every region prepares fuyu differently, kind of like stinky tofu has variations.

Fuyu mayo dip sounds fun m


Or the comedy option of Swiss chicken wings where it’s cooked in coke :downsrim:

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