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Bad Video Games
Sep 17, 2017


Also I just unlocked Giganto and made 2 decks with him. Seems fun.

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Hobo Clown
Oct 16, 2012

Here it is, Baby.
Your killer track.




Big Mouth Billy Basshole posted:

This is going to be a big problem soon, if it isn't already. The player base should be excited for new releases, but I wonder what % actually are in a position to see them and afford to get the new cards.

Ghost showed up in my shop pretty soon after release but I didn't have anywhere enough tokens and it's hard to know what's worth while if I'm missing a bunch of pool 3 cards.

Lol this is me. That list of upcoming cards looked dire because they're all just more ways I'm gonna lose. I might be able to try them if I stick it out through June and they aren't nerfed by then.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
Honestly they should start crapping out tokens for people.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Push El Burrito posted:

Honestly they should start crapping out tokens for people.

I just wonder if the game ends up becoming too similar as folks can target cards and one deck or card becomes so prevalent that it gets nerfed and then the cycle continues. Like Dr Boom in early HS

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

Walla posted:

Also I just unlocked Giganto and made 2 decks with him. Seems fun.

I love cards like Giganto. Just great casino fodder and worst case, you just pop him in the left lane on 6.

DurosKlav
Jun 13, 2003

Enter your name pilot!

New Leaf posted:

In the past couple days I've hit two players who must be bots. They are completely oblivious to the win conditions of Bar With No Name and play out the game like it's any other location and continually dig themselves deeper, even snapping in the process. Is this bot activity or just people being morons? They had icons and normal names and stuff so not what I'd expect.

Edited to add screens.





Here is a list of a bunch of known bots
Human means they're the stupidest ones, and LSTM are supposedly the better ones. Both of the names in your screenshot are on the list as LSTM.

Bad Video Games
Sep 17, 2017


I'm missing from Pool 3:

Absorbing Man
Adam Warlock
Agatha
Black Widow
Debrii
Doc Ock
Drax
Electro
Gambit
Green Goblin
Hazmat
Hela
Hell Cow
Juggernaut
Lockjaw
Luke Cage
Majick
Miles
Mojo
Mystique
Patriot
Quake
Quinjet
Red Skull
Rockslide
She Hulk
Spiderman
Titania
Thor
Typhoid Mary
Ultron
Zero

I think that's everyone. And I've bought 4 or 5 from the shop and will be buying another probably tomorrow. I'm around 1,700 cl.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Just wait until they start cycling out old cards and adding new year 2 pools for everyone to start grinding out again.

Bad Video Games
Sep 17, 2017


RevKrule posted:

I love cards like Giganto. Just great casino fodder and worst case, you just pop him in the left lane on 6.

Yeah, I made a Jubilee deck for him and then just slotted him into a Daredevil control list.

MissMarple
Aug 26, 2008

:ms:

Sandwolf posted:

I just wonder if the game ends up becoming too similar as folks can target cards and one deck or card becomes so prevalent that it gets nerfed and then the cycle continues. Like Dr Boom in early HS
I feel like that's mostly an inevitability anyway. Being S3 Complete and looking at the S4 and S5 with available tokens is going to mean people will tend to go with the popular opinion on how to spend that precious resource. The S4 and S5 cards people buy will probably be mostly homogenous.

There's definitely a sweet spot in early S2 where the dream of "I built it on my kitchen table with a box of spare parts" is true for deck construction. The matchmaking runs a bit roughshod over the same experience in S3 and then by the time you are riding the wave of New I doubt there's a lot of scarcity enforced novelty. With the higher turnover of games versus other TCGs that could very well make it dry up fast when everyone ends up with all the same tools. I hope it isn't reliant on that.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
Zola you piece of poo poo you copied it wrong!

MJBuddy
Sep 22, 2008

Now I do not know whether I was then a head coach dreaming I was a Saints fan, or whether I am now a Saints fan, dreaming I am a head coach.

Sandwolf posted:

They are aware of this, someone, I think Ben Brode, said that there is no hype for new cards because they’re effectively inaccessible for 90% of the game. Even if they gave players a free 6000 tokens, that’s one S5 card that could be missing 3-6 cards that enable the deck they go in. It’s a very frustrating issue because I don’t think they can solve it by increasing the speed you gain cards at, nor do I think a crafting system solves anything (basically just makes the game more p2w). So I have no idea what they’re gonna do to it. I had a weird idea like, once a month you can pick any card and just get it. So you’ve got the slow Token shop method that takes a MONTH to get ONE CARD as well as a quick and easy here, take one, have fun.

Step one is a new backend that lets them downgrade two cards weekly as new ones drop. That'll help a little when every week there's a new whale card, and price drop on a whale card and a new gen pop card to pick up, especially if the cadence is predictable.

It might lead to them adding more to P4/5 to slow down the time between whale and gen pop but overall not doing it in batches will improve experience.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


MJBuddy posted:

Step one is a new backend that lets them downgrade two cards weekly as new ones drop. That'll help a little when every week there's a new whale card, and price drop on a whale card and a new gen pop card to pick up, especially if the cadence is predictable.

It might lead to them adding more to P4/5 to slow down the time between whale and gen pop but overall not doing it in batches will improve experience.

I don’t think that solves anything at all. That just swells Pool 3 even greater. They realistically need to start dropping cards from Pool 3 to Pool 2 if anything, because as it stands Pool 3 is the greatest obstacle in this game. It’s a pool of like 85 cards with good cards, bad cards, tech cards, niche cards, and no way to predict or acquire certain cards. If that pool grows to 100 cards it makes the obstacle even greater.

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


MissMarple posted:

There's definitely a sweet spot in early S2 where the dream of "I built it on my kitchen table with a box of spare parts" is true for deck construction.

"In a cave with a box of scraps", perhaps?

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
I think if you're queueing players into galactus you need to at least give them aero. Can't even imagine how I'd have felt about that at 700CL. Ideally there would be a pool 2.5 that would be mostly really useful cards (aero, sera, wong, mystique, patriot, she hulk, lockjaw, quinjet) that can get going with pool 2s.

No Wave fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Feb 19, 2023

The Huge Manatee
Mar 27, 2014


We both put sunspot in the middle lane on turn one.

Then we snapped at exactly the same time after realising what had happened.

New Leaf
Jul 24, 2013

Dragon Balls? Are they tasty?
I think I hate the game right now. Or it hates me. Either way, I can't get consistent wins anymore with anything in my arsenal. 59 on Friday, 50 today.


DurosKlav posted:

Here is a list of a bunch of known bots
Human means they're the stupidest ones, and LSTM are supposedly the better ones. Both of the names in your screenshot are on the list as LSTM.

What does LSTM mean exactly?

flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes
this is a better link regarding bots
https://marvelsnapzone.com/bots-in-marvel-snap-a-comprehensive-guide/

that bot name list isn't going to be helpful b/c the bot names are generated randomly, with some added prefixes and postfixes and a very long list of potential names
https://marvelsnapzone.com/bots/

Fell Fire
Jan 30, 2012


RevKrule posted:

The smart thing to do is to not turn in any missions from the early morning reset tonight to tomorrow's weekly reset so you get 4 immediately ready to turn in and 2 more ready to get completed so you can immediately open tier 1 on the weekly progress.

Why does this matter? You still get missions over the weekend and I'm pretty sure they count towards the weekly challenge. Six missions a day for seven days is forty-two, so there are plenty of extra chances. Carrying over missions like this effectively just advances the completion by a day, doesn't it?

buffalo all day
Mar 13, 2019

this thread is like the opposite of Tolstoy, the unhappy posts are all alike, all the happy posts are happy in their own way. everyone who lost fifty cubes on tilt is mad at the cheating bots who drew every answer and hid all their good cards at the bottom of the deck

Ninurta
Sep 19, 2007
What the HELL? That's my cutting board.

Fell Fire posted:

Why does this matter? You still get missions over the weekend and I'm pretty sure they count towards the weekly challenge. Six missions a day for seven days is forty-two, so there are plenty of extra chances. Carrying over missions like this effectively just advances the completion by a day, doesn't it?

The rewards for completing the 5/10/15/20/25 missions don't reset until Monday evening. If you have outstanding season pass missions ex: complete 15 daily missions they still count plus you of course get the regular rewards.

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

Fell Fire posted:

Why does this matter? You still get missions over the weekend and I'm pretty sure they count towards the weekly challenge. Six missions a day for seven days is forty-two, so there are plenty of extra chances. Carrying over missions like this effectively just advances the completion by a day, doesn't it?

It really doesn't. It just gives you a jump start on weekly progression. It just finishes you up a day earlier.

doingitwrong
Jul 27, 2013
It’s nice to have more credits sooner.

doingitwrong
Jul 27, 2013
Hit 80 this weekend which means I’m decently on track to hit 90 by the end of the season (my goal this month).

Having the most fun with Thanos because every game is a different strategy. Sometimes I’m a Zoo deck, sometimes and interactive control deck. Sometimes big plays. And sometimes the deck just doesn’t work out. I think I’ve played a fully powered Thanos like twice. And the current location is making getting the stones down extra difficult.

Bad Video Games
Sep 17, 2017


Fell Fire posted:

Why does this matter? You still get missions over the weekend and I'm pretty sure they count towards the weekly challenge. Six missions a day for seven days is forty-two, so there are plenty of extra chances. Carrying over missions like this effectively just advances the completion by a day, doesn't it?

I only asked because I'm done for the week. I might play a game or two before bed, but the nightly missions drop on my bedtime and the morning are when I get to work which means I'm not completing any until lunch tomorrow. Knowing that I can carry 6 for the weekly reset means I'm closer to getting my next reserve faster.

canyonero
Aug 3, 2006
How often should I expect to get a card once I'm pool 3 complete? I got Cerebro as my last pool 3 at CL3238 and haven't gotten another at my current CL of 3492. I have Thanos pinned and 2900 tokens so I guess I could read that as ~1 series 4 token purchase between those collection levels.

Going ~9 days without much to show for it doesn't feel great, but maybe the tokens are supposed to make that feel less bad.

Zodack
Aug 3, 2014
A Pool 4 card is guaranteed 1 in every 40 caches. Pool 5 are not guaranteed (they have no pity timer) and are very, very rare. I forget the exact percentage.

buffalo all day
Mar 13, 2019

canyonero posted:

How often should I expect to get a card once I'm pool 3 complete? I got Cerebro as my last pool 3 at CL3238 and haven't gotten another at my current CL of 3492. I have Thanos pinned and 2900 tokens so I guess I could read that as ~1 series 4 token purchase between those collection levels.

Going ~9 days without much to show for it doesn't feel great, but maybe the tokens are supposed to make that feel less bad.

It’s like 20 days to complete a set of 40 boxes (eg one series 4 card) if you are hoarding all your gold for bundles, something like 15 if you are spending gold on mission refills or straight credits. You’ll average 5000 tokens over that same 40 boxes. You should expect to never pull a series 5 card.

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


Zodack posted:

A Pool 4 card is guaranteed 1 in every 40 caches. Pool 5 are not guaranteed (they have no pity timer) and are very, very rare. I forget the exact percentage.

If a box would have a card (or a big token drop), there is a 1 in 100 chance it will be a S5 card instead.

Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"
Re: catch-up:

They need like "snapfest" or something. A week where daily quests return crazy huge credits or tokens and an event that hands out cards.

I think that still fits the desired schoolyard vibe. Could monetize of course with like a "VIP" pass that gets variants or gold foil or whatever.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
They should make card access much easier (and much more targetable) but triple down on cosmetics for sale (variants of variants like B&W, etc).

Bad Video Games
Sep 17, 2017


1 loving point.

DurosKlav
Jun 13, 2003

Enter your name pilot!

flatluigi posted:

this is a better link regarding bots
https://marvelsnapzone.com/bots-in-marvel-snap-a-comprehensive-guide/

that bot name list isn't going to be helpful b/c the bot names are generated randomly, with some added prefixes and postfixes and a very long list of potential names
https://marvelsnapzone.com/bots/

Ya thats the video I pulled the link from.

Chainclaw
Feb 14, 2009

What a painful set of locations.

buffalo all day
Mar 13, 2019

Walla posted:

1 loving point.



You deserve it for the artisanal 12 points on space throne that you got

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna


Continuing to have a great time with Negative this month, despite the loss of the Crystal combo with Zabu. Put in Panther and Jane and while Jane almost never shows up pre-negative when she does it's near unstoppable. Best combo lately is t3 Ironheart (to an empty board) to t4 Negative, then dropping wong and Zola with Ironheart (add Mystique if you get the high roll). Drops 16 power on an absolute low roll (regular wong/zola) but an average closer to 30 and a high roll of 60+ depending on the order Zola grabs everything.

Then you have all the traditional negative combos with negative Ironman/Mystique, Panther/Zola, Wong/Tiger, etc. Jubilee/Zola is a good backup too. The deck is pretty consistent at getting Neg out on 3 with Psy and Zabu, but you have the Wong and Zola combos as a backup so I often win games when I don't get Negative at all or play him on 4 after skipping 1-3.

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Feb 20, 2023

Bad Video Games
Sep 17, 2017


buffalo all day posted:

You deserve it for the artisanal 12 points on space throne that you got

He snapped on 5 and dropped Magneto. Of course I'm snapping back because I'm expecting Hobgoblin. :D

New Leaf
Jul 24, 2013

Dragon Balls? Are they tasty?
I don't get it. I just can't win a goddamn game anymore. I know what I'm doing, the decks obviously work to get this far. I'm just failing repeatedly. What changed? It's driving me insane.

Bad Video Games
Sep 17, 2017


It's the weekend. Happens to me every weekend.

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Tom Smykowski
Jan 27, 2005

What the hell is wrong with you people?
Goddamnit I accidentally bought the drax pixel variant from the shop :bang:

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