[Ukraine] EU: Nice minister, shame if something were to happen...

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Honest Thief: Jan 11, 2009

lollontee posted:

its the start of a whole new era, mate

i barely have a hold on this one

# ? Feb 20, 2023 11:59

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# ? May 25, 2024 20:06

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

Honest Thief posted:

drat this poo poo's going to last a whole decade isn't it?

it really depends

# ? Feb 20, 2023 12:01

John Charity Spring: Nov 4, 2009; SCREEEEE

mawarannahr posted:

lol

"Dad can you hurry up I need the car keys, my friends are waiting"

# ? Feb 20, 2023 12:06

Honest Thief: Jan 11, 2009

mawarannahr posted:

it really depends

dont worry there's a whole nother mass of people right near ukr eager to keep at it

# ? Feb 20, 2023 12:07

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Comrade Koba posted:

was this the one they mentioned in Blowback, where the rescue workers had to wade through a liquified slurry of human fat when cleaning out what was left of the people inside the bunker?

yes

# ? Feb 20, 2023 12:12

evilmiera: Dec 14, 2009; Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

Al-Saqr posted:

Russia's intelligence services are declaring that they've now destroyed most of the equipment delivered to ukraine by the west, but it's probably bullshit otherwise russia would be making alot more progress than what they're doing now.

Given that this is like the fifth time they've declared this I am gonna have to agree

# ? Feb 20, 2023 12:15

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

Honest Thief posted:

i barely have a hold on this one

*prof farnsworth voice* good news, you're both done for!

# ? Feb 20, 2023 12:16

mila kunis: Jun 10, 2011

Al-Saqr posted:

yeah the west has really planted a big flag on ukraine with bidens visit not only does it show russian impotence to knock ukraine out of the fight but that the west are really in it to win it with this one.

this.

# ? Feb 20, 2023 12:21

Al-Saqr: Nov 11, 2007; One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

However I think russia will ultimately win their next campaign for donbass, and eventually maybe get to Kharkov. I think their next offinsive if it happens will be a significant leap forward for them.

# ? Feb 20, 2023 12:24

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

mawarannahr posted:

it really depends

To the death it is. Like how wars used to go. Tribe that loses gets exterminated. Wheee.

What you people thought they'd stop in the middle and sing campfire songs over a hearty meal of McDonalds happy meals? Children's cartoons maybe.

# ? Feb 20, 2023 12:24

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

just because biden can visit ukraine without getting blasted to bits, doesn't mean the west has agreed on who's picking up the loving bill

# ? Feb 20, 2023 12:25

Zodium: Jun 19, 2004

Al-Saqr posted:

However I think russia will ultimately win their next campaign for donbass, and eventually maybe get to Kharkov. I think their next offinsive if it happens will be a significant leap forward for them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3_PPdjD6mg

# ? Feb 20, 2023 12:25

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

lollontee posted:

just because biden can visit ukraine without getting blasted to bits, doesn't mean the west has agreed on who's picking up the loving bill

Simple, it'll be the EU. The Greater Polish Commonwealth all absorb the remnants of former Ukraine. They'll cry poor to Brussels, the USA will twist their arms and make all EU members pitch in and contribute to the bill.

Uncle Sam is getting paid, you can be assured of that. If the bill is unwelcome in other EU member states that's just too bad. They'll bend over and take it while saying "thank you sir".

# ? Feb 20, 2023 12:29

euphronius: Feb 18, 2009

imo Biden is there to deliver the message that has already been leaking out of DC.

# ? Feb 20, 2023 12:31

Cerebral Bore: Apr 21, 2010; Fun Shoe

biden is there because his handlers took at look at the recent polling numbers and are flailing around for anything that could make him look good

# ? Feb 20, 2023 12:49

Homeless Friend: Jul 16, 2007

mawarannahr posted:

lol

lmfao

# ? Feb 20, 2023 12:53

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

Bless the balloon and its helium. Bless the coming and going of him. May his passage cleanse the world. May he keep the world for his people.

# ? Feb 20, 2023 12:55

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

mawarannahr posted:

lol

I like the subtle look of disgust on Zelensky's face.

# ? Feb 20, 2023 12:55

Homeless Friend: Jul 16, 2007

biden looks like he just got zelenskyy to sign on a great car loan

# ? Feb 20, 2023 12:55

Corky Romanovsky: Oct 1, 2006; Soiled Meat

What items will make it into President Harris's first lethal aid package?

# ? Feb 20, 2023 13:00

1stGear: Jan 16, 2010; Here's to the new us.

I strongly doubt Biden personally visited Kyiv to tell Zelensky the spigot was about to be turned off. He would have sent Harris or Blinken to do that.

# ? Feb 20, 2023 13:09

euphronius: Feb 18, 2009

well you�d have to discount all the stories about the spigot getting turned off. I guess they could be wrong idk

# ? Feb 20, 2023 13:10

Mr Hootington: Jul 24, 2008; I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Al-Saqr posted:

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1627569783557263361?s=20

Siri how many countries were literally starved to death by America?

The article is something else

mawarannahr posted:

lol

Just in time for atomic hearts discourse.

# ? Feb 20, 2023 13:12

1stGear: Jan 16, 2010; Here's to the new us.

I'm extremely comfortable with viewing any unconfirmed rumors about this Reddit-rear end war with healthy skepticism. Except of course the incontrovertible fact the US blew up Nordstream and the also incontrovertible fact that Putin has extremely kissable lips.

# ? Feb 20, 2023 13:12

Cao Ni Ma: May 25, 2010

1stGear posted:

I strongly doubt Biden personally visited Kyiv to tell Zelensky the spigot was about to be turned off. He would have sent Harris or Blinken to do that.

The last few weeks it�s all been about fears of having the spigot turned off and Biden having to do something to keep the stuff from Europe flowing into Ukraine.

I�m sure Biden showing up for a surprise visit will materialize artillery shells into existence in the Donbas front

# ? Feb 20, 2023 13:23

antipattern: Nov 8, 2019

mawarannahr posted:

lol

# ? Feb 20, 2023 13:25

Ardennes: May 12, 2002

Neither one looks that into it

# ? Feb 20, 2023 13:35

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/paulsl_3/status/1627074494572679169

Context: that's Ian McCollum of Forgotten Weapons on the left, and another youtuber that calls himself Administrative Results, someone whom I've only heard of just now

why "administrative results"? well, it's a synonym for "executive outcomes"

and what is "executive outcomes"?

quote:

Executive Outcomes is a private military company (PMC) founded in South Africa in 1989 by Eeben Barlow, a former lieutenant-colonel of the South African Defence Force. It later became part of the South African-based holding company Strategic Resource Corporation.[2] The company was reestablished in 2020.[3]

Background

In 1989, following the conclusion of South African Border Wars in Angola and Namibia, the apartheid regime was looking at broad cuts in its military personnel. This initial drawback accelerated rapidly as the apartheid system was dismantled in the early 1990s. African National Congress leader Nelson Mandela demanded that then South African President Frederik Willem de Klerk dismantle some of the South African and South-West African Special Forces units such as 32 Battalion and Koevoet. One of these was the Civil Cooperation Bureau (CCB), a unit that carried out covert operations which included assassinations of government opponents, and worked to bypass the United Nations apartheid sanctions by setting up overseas front companies.

Only Koevoet, being part of the South West African Police (SWAPOL), was disbanded as part of independence negotiations for South-West Africa (now Namibia). Many members of the other units, or simply former national servicemen, were recruited by Executive Outcomes (EO).

Formation

Eeben Barlow and Michael Mullen, formerly in charge of the Western European section of the CCB,[4] established Executive Outcomes (EO) in 1989. Its aim was to provide specialised covert training to Special Forces members. Barlow was also awarded a contract by Debswana to train a selected group of security officers to infiltrate and penetrate the illegal diamond dealing syndicates in Botswana. When Debswana discovered EO was training the Angolan Armed Forces (FAA), it promptly cancelled EO's contract.

"Many of Barlow's Special Forces students would later join him at EO after he started recruiting men to assist with the training of the Angolan forces," says Walter Halicki, one of Eeben's associates in the FAA.

The company also went on to recruit many of its personnel from the units President F. W. De Klerk disbanded. Even former enemy fighters of the uMkhonto we Sizwe and Azanian People's Liberation Army were recruited as well since many were found out of work after their own restructuring and integration to the South African National Defense Force. At its peak, EO employed about 2,000 former soldiers.

Barlow registered Executive Outcomes Ltd in the UK on the insistence of the South African Reserve Bank. There is some confusion over this issue as a top secret British intelligence report states that "Executive Outcomes was registered in the UK on September 1993 by Anthony (Tony) Buckingham, a British businessman and Simon Mann, a former British officer".[5] Buckingham denies that he registered EO in London and consistently denies any "corporate ties" to EO.[6]

# ? Feb 20, 2023 13:36

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

concerning

# ? Feb 20, 2023 13:41

mila kunis: Jun 10, 2011

euphronius posted:

well you�d have to discount all the stories about the spigot getting turned off. I guess they could be wrong idk

the west is ramping up its weapon and ammunition production capacity for a reason. there might be shortages in the interim and the AFU will have to fight like hell to maintain parity for a bit but once the production comes online it's got to go somewhere

# ? Feb 20, 2023 14:05

OhFunny: Jun 26, 2013; EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

The smaller second northern road into Bakhmut has been cut.

# ? Feb 20, 2023 14:06

mila kunis: Jun 10, 2011

cant speak to the efficacy of human wave tactics but man i would never want to be part of one

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1625106275892711426

# ? Feb 20, 2023 14:13

Comrade Koba: Jul 2, 2007

gradenko_2000 posted:

wow, would never have imagined the gun weirdo who wanted to give azov a book deal would pal around with rhodesia fanboys

# ? Feb 20, 2023 14:20

Ardennes: May 12, 2002

OhFunny posted:

The smaller second northern road into Bakhmut has been cut.

The only viable route is going to be that remaining rural road and the farther the Russians push south on that ridge line north-west of Bakhmut, the more it is going to potentially come under threat of direct fire.

Granted, at the same time there really isn�t much cover for either side in that area and it could easily become a killing field.

Arguably, Ukrainians could probably still retreat through the fields south of there.

Comrade Koba posted:

wow, would never have imagined the gun weirdo who wanted to give azov a book deal would pal around with rhodesia fanboys

They are weirdos across the line and that doesn�t really get into all the other content that is now floating around related to this war. Hell, even Red Effect and Millennium 7 have sucked recently.

Also, there is that bald British dude with glasses that I swear is on 20 different shell channels.

Ardennes has issued a correction as of 14:52 on Feb 20, 2023

# ? Feb 20, 2023 14:30

OctaMurk: Jun 21, 2013

infamous and notorious human wave tactics, where you send small groups of infantry forward to find weakpoints in the line so you can fire loads of artillery at the enemy

# ? Feb 20, 2023 15:18