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SourKraut posted:I imagine leather on a mouse is going to become grungy and disgusting over time. Provided it’s actual high quality leather and not some cheap rear end leatherette, it will develop a nice patina over time, rather than become grungy. Plus Leather can be cleaned and conditioned in ways that soft touch plastic can’t. We already use leather for surfaces that get touched a lot - gloves, phone cases, steering wheels, furniture etc. Plus one of the things that I like about the lunar instruments mouse is that the entire thing is designed to be easily user serviceable and each part easily replaceable.
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doingitwrong posted:Why don’t people like the Magic Mouse? The new charging situation seems unaccountably dumb. Entirely aside from not being able to use it while it’s charging, it’s a hybrid trackpad/mouse that doesn’t actually have the functionality that makes a mouse useful for the situations where you need a mouse. The shape is extremely poorly designed - it’s too flat and to small to grip in a way that you would grip a proper mouse in order to do anything that requires precision mouse movements and it doesn’t have actual clickable buttons which means you can’t rapidly/precisely click.
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The tragic macpad is actually not tragic at all and is in fact good
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SourKraut posted:I imagine leather on a mouse is going to become grungy and disgusting over time. not any more than a wallet or bag/purse, assuming that the leather is high quality enough
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Warbird posted:What’s so so special about it/the drag feature? Drag and drop is the one action with a trackpad that's I've always found much more awkward and unnatural than using a mouse. Both needing to use the physical click and "drag lock" isn't great imo. But with three finger drag you hardly have to think about it, just put down two more fingers once the cursor is over the title bar / icon, then let go when it's where you want. Combined with other multi-touch gestures (4 finger expose / app switching, forward/back) and tap-to-click, with Apple's overall driver/software, it's just excellent and I don't find myself missing a mouse for anything that isn't games.
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SourKraut posted:I imagine leather on a mouse is going to become grungy and disgusting over time. Unlike plastic or god forbid rubber, leather can be treated to get back to normal rather easily. I have a leather office chair from ikea that only needs a cleanup ever couple of years or so to get back to factory condition, while my keyboard and mouse will look poo poo no matter what. SlowBloke fucked around with this message at 10:16 on Feb 19, 2023 |
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Escape Goat posted:Magic Trackpad with three finger drag turned on makes mice obsolete outside of gaming for me Three finger drag is fantastic, and its really weird/bad that its no longer a default option and you have to go into accessibility to turn on
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:The tragic macpad is actually not tragic at all and is in fact good Have you considered that this opinion is wrong? The leather mouse is the ultimate pointing device, the world just isn't ready for it yet.
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Turned on the 3 finger drag, it’s pretty nice, neat. Speaking of nice/keyboards, I presume all the gestures have hot key versions? Additionally, is there a rundown of how window management works with multiple displays? It looks like you can have multiple full screen apps/desktops per display but I’m not 100% sure.
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SlowBloke posted:Unlike plastic or god forbid rubber, leather can be treated to get back to normal rather easily. I have a leather office chair from ikea that only needs a cleanup ever couple of years or so to get back to factory condition, while my keyboard and mouse will look poo poo no matter what. Yeah, in many instances I agree; it just seems like the way a mouse is built, it'll be potential frequent and tedious cleaning/re-treatment, and not worth it since it's solely an aesthetic choice.
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SourKraut posted:Yeah, in many instances I agree; it just seems like the way a mouse is built, it'll be potential frequent and tedious cleaning/re-treatment, and not worth it since it's solely an aesthetic choice. probably not any worse than a leather seating surface or a frequently-used belt/bag/wallet. The innards of a mouse are pretty inert and durable these days all you really gotta do is power/charge it the only tedious cleaning issue I’d foresee is anywhere there are seams or where the leather meets metal/etc—like anywhere that could accumulate dirt and body soil/etc is probably gonna get kind of nasty
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Brain Issues posted:Have you considered that this opinion is wrong? The leather mouse is the ultimate pointing device, the world just isn't ready for it yet. Tim apple please make a leather trackpad. It puts the leather treatment on its skin
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mouse leather leather mouse
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LEATHER MOUSE MOUSE LEATHER
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4 Stam 4 Strength leather mouse
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Leather mouse made from mouse skin
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Fine Corinthian mouse leather
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Yeast posted:Three finger drag is fantastic, and its really weird/bad that its no longer a default option and you have to go into accessibility to turn on I had no idea this existed because it would never have occurred to me to check accessibility on top of the main trackpad panel for all the options. Having set it up, this rules.
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Yeah its buried deep in accessibility but this is a gamechanger. I spend an inordinate amount of time janitoring files in my Onedrive and drag'n'drop was always terrible on the macpad
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when i was setting up this 14" MBP, i was coming from a ten year old 13" MBP i was losing my mind trying to find the three finger drag, it was the first thing i had to change. no idea how people live without it
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I’m too good at holding down with one finger and dragging with another I guess, cause I’ve never really wanted three finger drag. I always set sensitivity to the max though, so I can keep the holding finger in one place and still move to anywhere on screen.
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what is the three finger drag
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Not much, what’s three finger drag with you?
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Is there a mouse that does horizontal inertial scrolling that's not the magic mouse??
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I feel lost when I use a laptops without BetterTouchTool custom gestures for three fingers swiping/opening/closing tabs in browsers and finder.
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Is there any practical downside to getting the older model of LG 5k? I can buy for $400 locally
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teraflame posted:Is there any practical downside to getting the older model of LG 5k? I can buy for $400 locally There are a few things. Only the newest rev supports 94W charge power output to a MacBook Pro; older versions are something like 60W or 70W. I think they also upgraded the color gamut a little, and a couple other minor feature bumps. If you just need a display, have a compatible computer, and it's in good shape (I assume it's used), that's a nice deal.
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Lady Radia posted:what is the three finger drag Same thing as click-drag.
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Seems like it would be useful to have something like a dedicated button off to the side that you could comfortably click and hold to drag things, instead of a single surface. oh wait
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Drag lock is the best, except it has made me unable to select text in windows with a trackpad. Who wants to hold down a button while they trudge through folders to move a file.
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zachol posted:If this can be a leisurely project I'd recommend those screw extractor pliers with the really sharp tips, see how well you can twist out the rivets one at a time. Trying to peel off the keyboard seemed ridiculously messy and unpleasant. OK well I valued my sanity more than money so I just bought an A grade keyboard upper on eBay and finished the swap this weekend. Altogether the process was fairly simple, although I now have a healthy dislike of ribbon cables and tiny screws (of which I have a non-zero amount of "spares" after the operation). All in all it didn't go perfectly, but I'm content enough that it's not going to fall apart, seems to work well enough after quick burn-in, so I'm not going to bother going in and trying to figure out which extra screws are actually things I forgot to attach vs whatever I have surplus of, because I bought a second upper. And that's the last time I'll ever open an Intel MacBook Pro.
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teraflame posted:Is there any practical downside to getting the older model of LG 5k? I can buy for $400 locally "For what it's worth, I've heard far, far, far fewer complaints of misbehavior from the 2019 revision of the UF5K (27MD5KL) than the original 2016 version (27MD5KA). Anything in the channel at this point should be the L version. Tiny sample size, but neither of mine has ever misbehaved, and both have quite good panel quality (though the 2021-build one is noticeably better than the 2019-buiild one)." zachol posted:Seems like it would be useful to have something like a dedicated button off to the side that you could comfortably click and hold to drag things, instead of a single surface.  Zenostein posted:Drag lock is the best, except it has made me unable to select text in windows with a trackpad. (...or it's an independent option that works with the superior three finger drag and I just completely forgot)
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japtor posted:I saw a post elsewhere recently about them, depends which older one I guess? 2016 vs 2019: Is that what causes that absurd delay? I assumed that was just osx being stupid about tap clicks. But yeah, it's double-click, drag, click. Much better if you run out of space on the trackpad, or need to scroll a window to find the right folder to drop/spring, rather than hoping you don't hit the timeout and drop whatever you were dropping somewhere.
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Zenostein posted:Is that what causes that absurd delay? I assumed that was just osx being stupid about tap clicks. But yeah, it's double-click, drag, click. Much better if you run out of space on the trackpad, or need to scroll a window to find the right folder to drop/spring, rather than hoping you don't hit the timeout and drop whatever you were dropping somewhere.
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Just bought an M2 Pro 14" MBP to replace my M1 mini as I foresee portability becoming a requirement at some point in the next few months, but it's still going to be a mostly deskbound machine. What's the deal with docks? I mostly want something unobtrusive that a) works, and b) can drive 2x 4K displays at 60Hz, has some USB-As and Cs, audio out, and SD card reader - and isn't something where you have to double dongle, cause I wanna stick it to the back of one of my monitors near a side edge.
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Zenostein posted:Is that what causes that absurd delay? I assumed that was just osx being stupid about tap clicks. But yeah, it's double-click, drag, click. Much better if you run out of space on the trackpad, or need to scroll a window to find the right folder to drop/spring, rather than hoping you don't hit the timeout and drop whatever you were dropping somewhere. I can't help with the other things, but you don't ever have to "run out of space on the trackpad." Once you press down with three fingers to select the file you want to drag, as long as you maintain contact with the trackpad you can lift (at least) one of your fingers to maintain the drag. I use index, middle , and ring fingers to start the drag then only use my index finger to actually move the item, lifting and repositioning the index fingertip as needed. This also works for things like sizing the box when capturing a portion of the screen for the built-in screenshot function.
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Kibner posted:Get ready to drop like $200+, tbh. I don't mind dropping that much as long as I don't get bitten with the thing sucking unreasonably, which seems to have been my experience with any dock I've been given from work.
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handoferis posted:I don't mind dropping that much as long as I don't get bitten with the thing sucking unreasonably, which seems to have been my experience with any dock I've been given from work. The CalDigit TS4 is probably your best bet: https://www.caldigit.com/thunderbolt-station-4/ They are designed to be compatible with Macs first and foremost and generally are ahead of everyone else when it comes to features.
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I’ve got the 3+ flavor of that and it works pretty well. It has the annoying habit of the screen connected via the daisy chain USBC/TB port not being recognized when coming up from sleep though. It’s easily fixed by unplugging and replugging the dock to the computer, but still annoying. I should email their support sometime to see if there’s anything that could be done.
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