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McGavin posted:Light tanks tend to have worse view range than other tanks at their tiers, no armour, and either don't move fast enough to avoid being hit or the 3-lane map design makes it so you can't maneuver to avoid enemies. Yeah I think that I will have to start getting into tank destroyers/heavies, was fun having something that felt different but times are a changin’ Or something like that.
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McGavin posted:Just to be clear, there's no wrong way to play, and you should play what you want. I'm just giving suggestions that might save you some time and trouble in the end. I'll definitely check out those USA tanks you mention though as I've mostly been putting time into the USA trees! Shaman Tank Spec posted:If you do, let me know, I'm also looking for an EU guild where I am not the only member who has logged in within the past three years. Shaman Tank Spec posted:There's a mod in Aslain's map pack which replaces the minimap with a version where the good scouting bushes are marked with light tank symbols, it's a pretty good thing as you're getting used to the class. Shaman Tank Spec posted:The T110E3 line is pretty OK. For TDs you need to ask yourself what kind of gameplay you want out of them. If you want to sit in a bush and snipe, the Swedish Strv-103 line is really good for the job. If you want to be an assault gun who runs down your enemies and blasts them from closer ranges, the E3 line is good for that, but the Soviet Object 268v4 is insanely good for that and possibly the most fun T10 tank destroyer. The Italian tank destroyers are also really good if a bit boring. They have EXTREMELY good turret armour, and are designed to sit hull down and shoot at their enemies, so they kind of play more like heavy tanks in the TD role. Shaman Tank Spec posted:As McGavin says, SPGs are not worth playing anymore. They were nerfed to the point where they are completely worthless and not at all fun. Shaman Tank Spec posted:Light tank info I've been researching light tanks and watching videos on how to play them effectively, so I'm trying to do that even in the tiers I've been in; making sure I'm in cover and how to spot without getting spotted myself or dying too early. It's quite a fun playstyle which is why I'd like to get better at it but it does sound very difficult to do well at later tiers so maybe I won't until I get much more experience with the game in general.
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British lights are great at staying hidden, but they give up so much in exchange in terms of firepower that they're tough to recommend. French lights (above tier 4 - you gotta suffer through the AMX 40) are probably the most fun to play because the autoloader gives them enough firepower to be a real pain. If you really want to play artillery check out the UK tier 6 FV304. It's pretty much the only fun artillery left in the game. It's basically a short range arty machine gun. The French tier 4 leFH18B2 premium arty and the tier 7 AMX 13 57 premium light are both stupidly good if you can find them on sale.
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Just remember that T10 is a miserable hellscape of min/maxers and stick to T8 and below and you'll manage to keep having fun. I can't remember which tanks are still purchasable (other than the IS-6) that have preferential MM (meaning they'll never see T10s), but they've been power-crept by the newer T8s so even they're not a guarantee anymore. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Feb 21, 2023 |
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I've been thinking a bit about all the advice and I've decided to consolidate down and focus my gameplay on less tanks and factions. Much like in all games I want to try all the things and get a feel for them, as I don't really know what playstyle I'll like (I'm the sort of person that will replay an intro 3 or 4 times as different classes  ). That's why I was going around various factions and all the types of tanks to find out which I feel is most fun for me.What I think I'll do is try to play as only one or two factions, so I'm going to go down the Czech tech tree (still stopping around T6 for a while to get more experience at the game) and play medium and heavy tanks. At some point I'll play down the French Light Tank tree and try learning those or get the Type 64. I'll keep playing the T-34 I have too because it's super fun! I might go for that UK Artillery McGavin suggested sometime if I really want to play some artillery but I'll try to keep my focus first. I'll also keep an out for sales on those premium vehicles too. I really do appreciate all the help everyone is giving me 
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Finally had a big brain moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4lFN0QA-zE Going to give this replay to Wargaming and maybe ill be famous. Edit- If anyone wants to check out the replay you are free to do so. http://wotreplays.eu/site/6491231#prokhorovka-katamari_democracy-strv_103b It was overall a very boring game soon after that. I know I did not do my health in damage and there were better performing players in this game. So no youtube necessary I guess. I did submit that replay to RNG and I hope they could use that small snippet for their bumps in between great shots. That would be cool. Katamari Democracy fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Feb 22, 2023 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Just remember that T10 is a miserable hellscape of min/maxers and stick to T8 and below and you'll manage to keep having fun. Bad news is that the min/maxers are also in T8 except now they're rolling around in the most broken bullshit premiums.
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floppyspud posted:I started playing a few days ago, went down the German path and ended up kiting in the luchs which was amazing, hardly got hit and I could get 5 kills in a single game. I went to the the tier V light tank and everything changed? Is it like one of the other posts here said that it just gets harder and harder to play light tanks in the higher tiers? They do put bots in lower tier games to fill in enough for full teams. I think the bots are noted with underscores or something as the first character in the name. You generally see a lot of them on each side so it should be easy to notice. I think they also put newbs against each other, I'm not sure on that one though. So it's also possible you just played enough games to get out of the special matchmaking and are playing against more experienced players now.
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the only fun you can have in this game is playing the bz-176. all other tanks are forbidden for having fun. you get banned if WG catches you smiling while playing other tanks
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RoboJoe: they're selling the IS-2 at the moment, which has a crew that has Brothers in Arms as a "Zero Perk" skill. That means the second skill trains as if it were the first. It's effectively paying $24 to get a premium tech tree T7, but the most valuable aspect of it is the BiA crew. There are a few other tanks that have those from the "Berlin Quartet" and they usually sell for ~  each time they put them out: The Cromwell B (UK-MT), ISU-122 (RU-TD), the M4A3E8 Thunderbolt VII (US-MT), and finally, the one you should really look out for, the T-34-85 "Rudy," which is a basic T-34-85, but with the radio operator (which aren't part of the crew in higher-tier Russian mediums) switched out for a dog (it barks when your Sixth Sense goes off). The extra bonus with the Rudy is that it's the only premium tank (thus far) that can be switched between Russian and *Polish* crews. You have to doubly-equip the tank in each config, but the Rudy's probably one of the best "bargains" in WoT.
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TracerM17 posted:They do put bots in lower tier games to fill in enough for full teams. I think the bots are noted with underscores or something as the first character in the name. You generally see a lot of them on each side so it should be easy to notice. I think they also put newbs against each other, I'm not sure on that one though. So it's also possible you just played enough games to get out of the special matchmaking and are playing against more experienced players now. The bot names are surrounded by colons, of all things. So if you see :Tracer: for example, that's a bot.
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TracerM17 posted:They do put bots in lower tier games to fill in enough for full teams. I think the bots are noted with underscores or something as the first character in the name. You generally see a lot of them on each side so it should be easy to notice. I think they also put newbs against each other, I'm not sure on that one though. So it's also possible you just played enough games to get out of the special matchmaking and are playing against more experienced players now. ah ok thanks, yeah I will just spec out into bigger tanks. Atomizer posted:The bot names are surrounded by colons, of all things. So if you see :Tracer: for example, that's a bot. well that explains it... 90% of the people I've been seeing on the lower tiers had colons around their names. Id say probably 1-2 people in the match were real people then (playing on Asian servers)
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floppyspud posted:well that explains it... 90% of the people I've been seeing on the lower tiers had colons around their names. Id say probably 1-2 people in the match were real people then (playing on Asian servers) Yeah that's pretty typical of low-tier battles, especially during off-peak (trough?) times and on the lower-populated servers (even NA but especially SA.) It didn't used to be that way; before bots you might wait a much longer time to find a game (or fail to do so) and potentially with less than a full 15v15 match. It's a necessity nowadays, even though experienced players do occasionally play lower tiers, because of Wargaming's emphasis on rushing up the tech trees, when there's nothing inherently wrong with playing any tier. That's partially why you experienced what you wrote: at very low tiers you seemed to be very successful but then at the middle tiers you experienced much tougher battles. On one hand, you could certainly do well at low tiers when facing brand-new players who don't know what they're doing. On the other hand, light tanks are difficult to play in general, because they lack armor and are less forgiving. You will quite likely be more successful moving up in medium or heavy tanks.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:RoboJoe: they're selling the IS-2 at the moment, which has a crew that has Brothers in Arms as a "Zero Perk" skill. That means the second skill trains as if it were the first. The dog no longer barks for sixth sense. Hasn't for a few years now.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:RoboJoe: they're selling the IS-2 at the moment, which has a crew that has Brothers in Arms as a "Zero Perk" skill. That means the second skill trains as if it were the first. I actually already have the Cromwell B but I haven't used it much yet. I was trying to figure out where I got it from and apparently it was a free giveaway on Steam a year or so ago which I'd claimed and forgotten about, so that's cool. As an aside when I was debating about making a second account because my old one was super barebones I remembered the game was on steam so I downloaded it there and loaded up, and I had more gold and tanks than my old account. Plus it seemed because I'd never actually loaded the game before and "created" an account at that point I could still use an invite code on it for the recruitment bonus, so that's where I've been playing. Seems a good idea I did because I've grabbed a couple of quite cheap offers to get a little gold and premium time via steam. I'll keep an eye out for that "Rudy" tank, sounds quite a good one to buy if I see it on sale, but the IS-2 you've alerted me to seems very good too. I had a look at the offers in game to find it and there is a base offer and an upgraded one for the tank, and more expensive version seems worth it but I thought I'd check in case I was dumb and missing something. The cheaper option is £16.14 and comes with the IS-2, a garage slot, and the special crew. The more expensive offer is £25.11 and comes with an additional 3500 gold, five x5 XP missions, and ten 300% one hour XP boosters. Considering if I bought the 3500 gold alone that would cost more than the difference between the offers, that seems a pretty great deal to me? Especially as I could buy another premium tank with that gold. The offer is on until the 28th so I have a little time to decide if I want to do want buy the tank; I guess this is how wargaming suck you in, right? JuffoWup posted:The dog no longer barks for sixth sense. Hasn't for a few years now. 
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The only thing worth any extra money in the expensive offer is the gold and I would double check if it really is any cheaper than buying gold before pulling the trigger. Wargaming had too many lopsided sales early on that they hired an economist and now they rarely have any worthwhile deals, just "deals" that are slightly cheaper than buying gold at the most expensive rate.
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I did check that as I've seen similar about the "deals" not being very good from this thread and elsewhere online but 3500 gold would be £11.61 to buy directly, and the upgraded deal is £8.97 more so I save a couple of pounds doing it that way. It's not much of a saving really but I'd probably want to buy some gold sometime and as you've recommended the IS-2 it seems worth doing if I decide to buy the tank.
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Again, the biggest value with the "Berlin" tanks are the crews, because skill training is one of the most laborious aspects of the game, and having BiA as a zero perk skill is nice. Also, since they don't make it clear...you can use other crews in premium tanks, they just need to be specced for that type of tank. For instance, you can put crew members from a KV-1 into the premium IS-2 with no penalty, but you can't put the crew from a T-34 into the IS-2 without incurring a penalty because that's a medium tank. Another way to save gold is using premiums to "retrain" crews between tanks. For instance, if you're going up a Russian heavy line, you can "80%" train your crew for the next tank (again, so long as it's a Russian heavy), then grind them to 100% training on the premium tank. That being said, if you haven't started a Russian heavy line and *do* end up buying the IS-2, it makes more sense to retrain the IS-2 crew to a tech tree tank since premium tank crews are only specced for that premium tank. It's a way to get extra value out of them. I wouldn't recommend re-training your Cromwell B crew to British tech tree mediums unless you feel like grinding that line, though. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Feb 23, 2023 |
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Atomizer posted:Yeah that's pretty typical of low-tier battles, especially during off-peak (trough?) times and on the lower-populated servers (even NA but especially SA.) It didn't used to be that way; before bots you might wait a much longer time to find a game (or fail to do so) and potentially with less than a full 15v15 match. It's a necessity nowadays, even though experienced players do occasionally play lower tiers, because of Wargaming's emphasis on rushing up the tech trees, when there's nothing inherently wrong with playing any tier. That’s unfortunate, bots in the lower tiers giving you false hope that you’re a god gamer, but taking it away as soon as you get anywhere. But I guess that’s a necessary evil for the lower tiers to get games.
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Re: crew retraining from one tank to another, watch out for devious poo poo such as crew layout changes (e.g. M6 to T29 sees the second gunner being dropped out and replaced by a second Loader) and any secondary duties suddenly being swapped from one guy to another (e.g. T-44 to Obj. 430 sees the Radio Operator duties shift from the Loader to the Commander).
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ZogrimAteMyHamster posted:Re: crew retraining from one tank to another, watch out for devious poo poo such as crew layout changes (e.g. M6 to T29 sees the second gunner being dropped out and replaced by a second Loader) and any secondary duties suddenly being swapped from one guy to another (e.g. T-44 to Obj. 430 sees the Radio Operator duties shift from the Loader to the Commander). Yup. It gets seriously  sometimes.
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floppyspud posted:That’s unfortunate, bots in the lower tiers giving you false hope that you’re a god gamer, but taking it away as soon as you get anywhere. But I guess that’s a necessary evil for the lower tiers to get games. Most players are terrible, though. At higher tiers in all-human player matches, the outcome is decided by the balance of competent to incompetent players between the teams, offset by the absurd randomization (e.g. +/-25% rolls) of this game. You're not automatically going to get destroyed, you just have to get in the mindset of trying to at least pull your own weight in each battle (which is typically represented by doing at least your HP in damage to the enemy team.)
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They're not bolting giant dumb looking AA guns onto everything for the new battlepass 3d skins which is a plus, but man I have zero interest in both headline token tanks this time around. A German TD that loses massive DPM in siege mode, and a worse Chinese 50TP, wooo~ Guess I'll be getting a decent chunk of bonds at least.
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Getting back into this after a few years away. Great time to learn that I can't even use my old account on steam - but that's no big loss apart from the Tier VIII russian artillery I had going there. I really need to try out the british arti because that sounds unique enough to make me forget how much better artillery used to be back in the earliest days. I also picked up the polish TKS znkm 20mm Mini Tank Creature on a whim and I am having a blast with it playing it as a backstabbing little poo poo. Discovering New and Creative ways to shoot UNDER things like trains and into enemy tanks that can't shoot back. Are there any particularly noteworthy or unique vehicles up to about Tier V or VI that I should try out? Right now my focus has been on mashing my face back into russian arti - but I've am also on my way to trying out the american T6 with the stupid derp gun.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:RoboJoe: they're selling the IS-2 at the moment, which has a crew that has Brothers in Arms as a "Zero Perk" skill. That means the second skill trains as if it were the first. What advantage is the BIA crew (if not a really fast way to train up crew for tanks)? --- https://streamable.com/nzdn6s DarkDobe fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Feb 24, 2023 |
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Their BIA is a "zero-skill" BIA, so they have a skill, but don't count as having a skill, so it takes less XP for them to get their next skill.
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DarkDobe posted:What advantage is the BIA crew (if not a really fast way to train up crew for tanks)? In addition to what McGavin said, BiA is an additional 5% bonus to the tank and its crew. It's effectively an *additional* "vents" on top of the vents equipment, and it's completely active at all times.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:In addition to what McGavin said, BiA is an additional 5% bonus to the tank and its crew. It's effectively an *additional* "vents" on top of the vents equipment, and it's completely active at all times. I assume the key takeaway here is that you get a SuperCrew out of the purchase, then? Even if they dont stay in the IS2
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DarkDobe posted:I assume the key takeaway here is that you get a SuperCrew out of the purchase, then? Even if they dont stay in the IS2 Right, you can re-train them to whatever tank type you like, so long as it's Soviet/Russian. The IS-2 uses the same "standardized" crew loadout of Commander (double-duty as radioman)/Gunner/Driver/Loader as most of their mediums. Bear in mind that the double-barreled tanks have *two* loaders, and if you don't have BiA on that second loader (or the earlier tanks with Radio Operators), it "breaks" the skill. Yes, it's convoluted and stupid, and yes, WG likes it that way because it invariably gets you to spend more in-game resources and gold to play around it.
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oh yeah you piss away too much gold swapping crews around, 800 / 1000 per crew is kinda bullshit, but weren't they going to change crews soon so one crew can be in like 3 tanks or w/e?
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Fat Jesus posted:oh yeah you piss away too much gold swapping crews around, 800 / 1000 per crew is kinda bullshit, but weren't they going to change crews soon so one crew can be in like 3 tanks or w/e?
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Fat Jesus posted:oh yeah you piss away too much gold swapping crews around, 800 / 1000 per crew is kinda bullshit, but weren't they going to change crews soon so one crew can be in like 3 tanks or w/e? Well, again - something they don't really make well-known is that you can "stick it to the man" by using 80%-trained crews in premiums (which match their tank type specialization and nation) to get them back up to 100% in shorter order without gold. I don't know if it's true or not, but I think any trained skills also work while in a premium.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Well, again - something they don't really make well-known is that you can "stick it to the man" by using 80%-trained crews in premiums (which match their tank type specialization and nation) to get them back up to 100% in shorter order without gold. I don't know if it's true or not, but I think any trained skills also work while in a premium. So if I switch my crew to a new tank, then throw them in the appropriate premium, I can get them to 100%? So if I throw my T29 crew in the T32, and then put them in my King Tiger (C), I can fully train them to 100% (quickly) for the T32 without having to spend gold? I may have to try this.
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skwidd posted:So if I switch my crew to a new tank, then throw them in the appropriate premium, I can get them to 100%? So if I throw my T29 crew in the T32, and then put them in my King Tiger (C), I can fully train them to 100% (quickly) for the T32 without having to spend gold? I may have to try this. If you train the T29 crew for the T32 with the 20k silver 80% option, then put them in the Captured King Tiger, it *should* work to get them back up to 100%. It won't be immediate, but it shouldn't take too long. It's been a very long time but I remember doing it with my Churchill III when I was grinding the IS-7 way back when, and also with US mediums. Don't forget to enable (and then disable when you no longer need it) Accelerated Crew Training as well. It's a checkbox above the crew slots. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Feb 24, 2023 |
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If this is the fastest/best way to level crew without using gold then theoretically it would make sense to have at least one Premium tank per faction for faster crew training using this method? [It's unlikely I'll do that unless I end up playing a very long time but I'm just curious ]
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RoboJoe posted:If this is the fastest/best way to level crew without using gold then theoretically it would make sense to have at least one Premium tank per faction for faster crew training using this method? That kind of used to be the case, but after crew books were put in, it's more efficient to just farm credits with a good tier 8 premium, buy a book for 2 million (gives 250 000 exp to each crew member, found under crew operations button above your crew -> crew books -> training manual in the middle), and use that to level the crew. I wouldn't buy a premium tank just for leveling crews anymore, just for credit farming and because the tank is fun to play.
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Bonus XP this weekend starting today at 5:20 EST: https://worldoftanks.com/en/news/general-news/xp-fever-february-2023/?utm_source=wot-ingame&utm_medium=button&utm_campaign=no_sale_na
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Sayara posted:That kind of used to be the case, but after crew books were put in, it's more efficient to just farm credits with a good tier 8 premium, buy a book for 2 million (gives 250 000 exp to each crew member, found under crew operations button above your crew -> crew books -> training manual in the middle), and use that to level the crew. I wouldn't buy a premium tank just for leveling crews anymore, just for credit farming and because the tank is fun to play. I bought the IS-2 today because of the suggestion (and explanation of crews) by BIG HEADLINE and holy moly this thing is fun; I've only done a few games but I'm a big chonky boy that goes boom and tanks explode, it's fantastic. I also bought the more expensive package to get some extra gold and put that towards a Type 64 so I can learn how to play a light tank and so far that's proving quite fun too; I still need to learn the maps better so I know where to sit and where to move to avoid getting shot at though, but this seems a great little tank.
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