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Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Quick question: if religion is the opiate of the masses, what is the cannabidinoid of the masses?

# ? Feb 22, 2023 11:04

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# ? May 27, 2024 09:09

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

Jedit posted:

Quick question: if religion is the opiate of the masses, what is the cannabidinoid of the masses?

Cannabis?

# ? Feb 22, 2023 11:05

History Comes Inside!: Nov 20, 2004

If religion was as good as any half decent opiate I�d have spent a lot more time in church

# ? Feb 22, 2023 11:06

ConanThe3rd: Mar 27, 2009

Jedit posted:

Quick question: if religion is the opiate of the masses, what is the cannabidinoid of the masses?

Being such a flake that the very idea of revisions to some children's books makes you melt into a puddle of bugs and straw?

# ? Feb 22, 2023 11:07

josh04: Oct 19, 2008; "THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"
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https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/1628178468516003849?t=ksxXtIJ2jne767TCFIqdTQ&s=19

lol, Tim has definitely been on one of those evangelical boot camps

# ? Feb 22, 2023 11:10

kecske: Feb 28, 2011; it's round, like always

History Comes Inside! posted:

If religion was as good as any half decent opiate I’d have spent a lot more time in church

ever tried sticking cheap sweets and cloves onto an orange?

# ? Feb 22, 2023 11:12

MeinPanzer: Dec 20, 2004; anyone who reads Cinema Discusso for anything more than slackjawed trolling will see the shittiness in my posts

I�m hearing Jesus is the son of god? Huge if true.

# ? Feb 22, 2023 11:14

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

josh04 posted:

https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/1628178468516003849?t=ksxXtIJ2jne767TCFIqdTQ&s=19

lol, Tim has definitely been on one of those evangelical boot camps

So does Eternal Tim just reject everything said by Saul/Paul then, who admits that he only ever saw Jesus as a mystical experience, but who is pretty key to the whole idea of guidance by heart that he ought to put some weight in if he's claiming to draw from an evangelical tradition?

ConanThe3rd posted:

Being such a flake that the very idea of revisions to some children's books makes you melt into a puddle of bugs and straw?

But only the ones that happened after you were 12, I've never heard of mass outrage about the removal of pre-decimal currency from Dahl books.

Zalakwe posted:

What a quaint definition of "ancient".

More seriously though what's that from? A quick google hasn't helped me.

It was something that first got legs ( :v:

) in The Orangutan Story about Poe scholars. Beyond that I'm not sure.

# ? Feb 22, 2023 11:14

Pistol_Pete: Sep 15, 2007; Oven Wrangler

josh04 posted:

https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/1628178468516003849?t=ksxXtIJ2jne767TCFIqdTQ&s=19

lol, Tim has definitely been on one of those evangelical boot camps

I find it quite sweet! It's that style of arguing where you simplify a complex issue down into an either/ or question and say: "Well, it clearly isn't 'x', therefore it must be 'y'! "

C. S. Lewis's books on theology were basically this, where he'd construct arguments based on long chains of either/ or statements. Works great, until one link in the chain breaks, then :shrug:

# ? Feb 22, 2023 11:17

Only Kindness: Oct 12, 2016

Fim Tarron says: "And if they *are* true� that changes everything."

Uh, Fim. If they are true, then that changes nothing, because if they are true then we are already living in that reality now.

# ? Feb 22, 2023 11:31

Gorn Myson: Aug 8, 2007

I know Tim Farron is a homophobe but I didn't realise he was so bitter at people correctly identifying him as one.

# ? Feb 22, 2023 11:34

Reveilled: Apr 19, 2007; Take up your rifles

For anyone interested in religious stuff from a more casual perspective I'd recommend the youtube channel Religion for Breakfast. Doesn't have the depth of a podcast on a specific topic but it's pretty much the religious equivalent of the various science communicator youtube channels, a 10-30 minute video on some particular topic of interest.

Since we've been talking about the bible, here's a video about a book that didn't make the cut:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX3Oi8j5AzY

# ? Feb 22, 2023 11:34

Only Kindness: Oct 12, 2016

I'm hearing the sound of hooves.

Fuckin' zebras :argh:

, at it again.

# ? Feb 22, 2023 11:36

endlessmonotony: Nov 4, 2009; by Fritz the Horse

History Comes Inside! posted:

I have literally never in my life thought �gently caress, I could really go for some sitting at my desk in front of a spreadsheet right now, it�s sucks that I�m doing *anything else* instead�

I've had this thought several times in my life, usually in a hospital.

If you can't enjoy anything, it's less painful to be doing something, rather than doing nothing and thinking.

# ? Feb 22, 2023 12:05

Danger - Octopus!: Apr 20, 2008; Nap Ghost

Tomberforce posted:

I posted a little while ago about the letters that my mother in law showed me a few days ago which were written by her Uncle who was killed fighting in the Spanish Civil War with the International Brigade. The letter dates from December 1937 and he was killed around Aragon in March 1938. He was clearly a deeply committed and idealistic member of the CPGB and the letter outlines in detail his rationale for his Socialist worldview and he goes on to make some eerily prescient observations (even going as far as to use the word holocaust - in a letter from 1937) about the coming global storm. He was 23 when he was killed but he writes with an eloquence beyond his years. I thought it was a genuinely fascinating document both for its observations of the situation of the time and the prevailing relevance of many of the themes. I thought some of you might find it interesting too!

This is the first page of the letter - it's 11 pages so I will just post my very imperfect transcription for the rest of it.

This is really great, thanks for sharing. Is it ok to share this with people elsewhere who it would be of interest to? I'd ask them not to post it publicly on social media sites etc, obviously

# ? Feb 22, 2023 12:13

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

The Bible is all 100% documented eye witness accounts, like that time some dude beat an angel in a 2/3 falls match for a blessing.

# ? Feb 22, 2023 12:21

MeinPanzer: Dec 20, 2004; anyone who reads Cinema Discusso for anything more than slackjawed trolling will see the shittiness in my posts

A lot of people itt surprisingly don�t understand that your continued enjoyment of leisure is mostly dependent on doing some sort of purposeful work. And by definition people who have been successful enough in some profession to become rich find their work satisfying.

# ? Feb 22, 2023 12:22

Diet Crack: Jan 15, 2001

I beg to differ. Work can come in many forms and doesn't necessarily have to be under paid employment by someone else.

See if I were rich I'd buy myself a workshop for my garage and turn furniture and do metalwork

History Comes Inside! posted:

That�s like saying you need a swift kick in the balls every once in a while to really appreciate not being kicked in the balls.

This 3 months of gardening leave has been the best loving thing ever, honestly.

Diet Crack fucked around with this message at 12:25 on Feb 22, 2023

# ? Feb 22, 2023 12:23

History Comes Inside!: Nov 20, 2004

MeinPanzer posted:

A lot of people itt surprisingly don�t understand that your continued enjoyment of leisure is mostly dependent on doing some sort of purposeful work

Absolutely not lol

# ? Feb 22, 2023 12:23

History Comes Inside!: Nov 20, 2004

That�s like saying you need a swift kick in the balls every once in a while to really appreciate not being kicked in the balls.

# ? Feb 22, 2023 12:24

TheDeadlyShoe: Feb 14, 2014

People need a purpose and work is the best analogue to purpose most people have

which is why the rich raging about the lazy poors is so ridiculous. people want to be useful. they just don't want to be a cogs being mercilessly ground down in a machine

# ? Feb 22, 2023 12:26

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

MeinPanzer posted:

A lot of people itt surprisingly don’t understand that your continued enjoyment of leisure is mostly dependent on doing some sort of purposeful work. And by definition people who have been successful enough in some profession to become rich find their work satisfying.

You should post "Thank you Mr Gonzo" every time you post in this thread, to appreciate how satisfying it is to post.

# ? Feb 22, 2023 12:27

History Comes Inside!: Nov 20, 2004

I don�t think everyone needs a purpose unless you count �having as minimally lovely a time you possibly can while you�re here� as a purpose.

I don�t want to be useful I just want to be left alone to do whatever as often as I possibly can.

# ? Feb 22, 2023 12:28

Diet Crack: Jan 15, 2001

My purpose is not to be held to a minimum amounted wage so that I can give up the majority of my lifetime to make someone else rich. gently caress that noise. This idea that it has to be 'work' to find meaning is absolute nonsense. There's a reason why people doing what they love don't consider it 'work.' For the majority, it's not a case of "oh my god I enjoy this so much" and it's more "this is loving dire and poo poo but I don't want to starve to death."

Like seriously, this is indoctrination 101 for the worst.

# ? Feb 22, 2023 12:28

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

Purpose =/= work as capitalism dictates it.

# ? Feb 22, 2023 12:34

Sir Sidney Poitier: Aug 14, 2006; My favourite actor

TheDeadlyShoe posted:

People need a purpose and work is the best analogue to purpose most people have

People are different.

# ? Feb 22, 2023 12:35

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Since we just had churchchat, there's a reason why there was a whole era where the finest minds were all clergymen, and it wasn't because the Church had a magical way of selecting the smartest people from before they were smart. And after that the finest minds were usually gentlemen scholars, and that definitely wasn't because land inheritance had a magical way of selecting the smartest people.

Bertrand Russell posted:

In the past there was a small leisure class and a large working class. The leisure class enjoyed advantages for which there was no basis in social justice; this necessarily made it oppressive, limited its sympathies, and caused it to invent theories by which to justify its privileges. These facts greatly diminished its excellence, but in spite of this drawback it contributed nearly the whole of what we call civilization. It cultivated the arts and discovered the sciences; it wrote the books, invented the philosophies, and refined social relations. Even the liberation of the oppressed has usually been inaugurated from above. Without the leisure class mankind would never have emerged from barbarism.

The method of a hereditary leisure class without duties was, however, extraordinarily wasteful. None of the members of the class had been taught to be industrious, and the class as a whole was not exceptionally intelligent. It might produce one Darwin, but against him had to be set tens of thousands of country gentlemen who never thought of anything more intelligent than fox-hunting and punishing poachers. At present, the universities are supposed to provide, in a more systematic way, what the leisure class provided accidentally and as a byproduct. This is a great improvement, but it has certain drawbacks. University life is so different from life in the world at large that men who live in an academic milieu tend to be unaware of the pre-occupations of ordinary men and women; moreover, their ways of expressing themselves are usually such as to rob their opinions of the influence that they ought to have upon the general public. Another disadvantage is that in universities studies are organized, and the man who thinks of some original line of research is likely to be discouraged. Academic institutions, therefore, useful as they are, are not adequate guardians of the interests of civilization in a world where every one outside their walls is too busy for unutilitarian pursuits.

In a world where no one is compelled to work more than four hours a day every person possessed of scientific curiosity will be able to indulge it, and every painter will be able to paint without starving, however excellent his pictures may be. Young writers will not be obliged to draw attention to themselves by sensational pot-boilers, with a view to acquiring the economic independence needed for monumental works, for which, when the time at last comes, they will have lost the taste and the capacity.

# ? Feb 22, 2023 12:37

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

https://twitter.com/tinscognito__/status/1628341848467992576?t=5NIf9lNp5wYhRUpnYWlWKA&s=19

Yes Jermumblery, what about that :thunk:

Will you employ some kind of timecops

# ? Feb 22, 2023 12:44

Only Kindness: Oct 12, 2016

MeinPanzer posted:

A lot of people itt surprisingly don�t understand that your continued enjoyment of leisure is mostly dependent on doing some sort of purposeful work.

Is this a joke

# ? Feb 22, 2023 12:46

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Failed Imagineer posted:

Yes Jermumblery, what about that

Jeremy what if a surgeon is performing crucial surgery on a plane and it crosses a time zone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz-9bU9dTuc

# ? Feb 22, 2023 12:47

Sir Sidney Poitier: Aug 14, 2006; My favourite actor

Get back to toiling the fields, peasants, for it will make the gruel even more delicious.

# ? Feb 22, 2023 12:48

Just Another Lurker: May 1, 2009

Reveilled posted:

For anyone interested in religious stuff from a more casual perspective I'd recommend the youtube channel Religion for Breakfast. Doesn't have the depth of a podcast on a specific topic but it's pretty much the religious equivalent of the various science communicator youtube channels, a 10-30 minute video on some particular topic of interest.

Since we've been talking about the bible, here's a video about a book that didn't make the cut:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX3Oi8j5AzY

Been watching him for a couple of years, he does interesting work.

I'm still a very content atheist though. :lol:

# ? Feb 22, 2023 13:03

Darth Walrus: Feb 13, 2012

Z the IVth posted:

Someone should tell Tim the MCU has more internal consistency than the good book.

I remember hams getting up in arms when some authors decided that some tech-priests preferred to be non-binary (since they shared more characteristics with a room sized computer than a human at that point).

Non-binary? Techno-heresy!

# ? Feb 22, 2023 13:03

kecske: Feb 28, 2011; it's round, like always

im sure nobodys ever made remarks about work setting you free before

# ? Feb 22, 2023 13:04

Angrymog: Jan 30, 2012; Really Madcats

Re the stupid surgery question, I imagine they either wouldn't schedule longer surgeries right at the end of a specific surgeon's week, or they do what ever they do with very long surgeries or if an operation takes much longer than expected and the first surgeon has to hand over to a colleague?

# ? Feb 22, 2023 13:07

Miftan: Mar 31, 2012; Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Or just pay the surgeon overtime. Nobody is saying this is a 4 day week that is enforced and nobody is allowed to work more than 4 days a week. Most people only work 5 days a week despite the law being 1 day off a week.

# ? Feb 22, 2023 13:11

Beefeater1980: Sep 12, 2008; My God, it's full of Horatios!

OwlFancier posted:

Like I said, I don't believe her, certainly not to the point where I would not simply vote for someone who has better thoughts, but the interview style is utter dogshit for baby brain journalists who operate like phone menu systems.

UK interviewers are utter poo poo, but saying that makes me realise nowhere is actually good. Here in HK they�re super weak, north of the border in China they�re completely loving neutered outside of a few apolitical specialist areas, in the US they are partisan.

To see good interviews you pretty much need to go back like 5-6 decades, then you see people who think of themselves as intelligent, public-spirited professionals doing Serious Interviews to be watched by people like themselves who will be judging them by their own standards. News As Entertainment kills that, and if you�re holding political News (which is fundamentally about boring things) to profitability targets, it will always become Entertainment.

# ? Feb 22, 2023 13:13