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thespaceinvader posted:Fuckin lmao they put the RRRR Phyrexian Horror in fuckin alchemy AND it's way worse than the other two released so far. Can't wait for the time when the designers weren't designing in an Embercleave world. With alchemy they can always change into a good card in the future.
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 20:03 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 13:23 |
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The most incredibly lazy ONE Block Constructed deck. I put two Mythic WCs into it for Vraska and four U for Serum Snare, knocked out my daily and all three MWM wins with it in under half an hour, including deckbuilding. (For free!) I'm really coming around on Vraska in Toxic/Proliferate. The -2 turn a guy into a Treasure ability is remarkably interesting removal, especially against Obliterator (etc), and even playing it Compleated seems relevant under some conditions. I don't think that any deck that wants it is going to ever get the ultimate off, though. There's just so many Proliferate and Poison options in black, and the UB shell has that much more. I'm interested to see how Vraska specifically evolves as Standard gets more fleshed out.
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 20:21 |
What is this weird "Aftermath" 50 card set coming after MOTM? Is this a thing that they've done before? Also, RIP Kenriths I also think it's kinda weird that they don't put the Commander set commanders into MTGA. Some of them seem fun for Brawl! GrandpaPants fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Feb 22, 2023 |
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 20:23 |
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A Moose posted:Does R&D even design alchemy cards? I think those are made by the Arena devs, which would explain the overall quality and how it's just slightly above r/custommagic I never really thought about it but you’re probably right! That explains a lot about alchemy.
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 20:27 |
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GrandpaPants posted:What is this weird "Aftermath" 50 card set coming after MOTM? Is this a thing that they've done before? It's new, I can't think of anything similar that's been done before, assuming it's standard legal.
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 20:29 |
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Lone Goat posted:what deck is playing embercleave in alchemy that wants a red 4 drop but doesn't want torbran? ??? That's not what I mean I mean embercleave made the designers scared of making actually good mono red cards.
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 20:30 |
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Yeah, aftermath is going to be a standard legal, non-draftable, 50 card set that is basically just a place to put names and flavor text that would spoil the ending of MoM. They've never done anything like this. Why make new, mechanically unique cards, but only 50? Why not just release some fancy looking reprints of cards with different flavor text or art after MoM? Or why not just spoil it in the set like usual?
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 20:39 |
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Mono-red has been in a pretty good place lately (excepting toxic decks pushing them out this set).
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 20:40 |
GrandpaPants posted:What is this weird "Aftermath" 50 card set coming after MOTM? Is this a thing that they've done before? It's a new thing. It's an all rares set which... In a vacuum doesn't necessarily really mean anything, rare doesn't mean good or playable, but in practice does seem like they'll be able to put fewer cards in packs and charge more for them. Maybe they'll all be high impact cards, or maybe they'll make things that might normally be common/uncommon rare too? Storywise seems like it will wrap up the Phyrexian arc and characters, and clear the stage for new settings and stories. Not sure how Drafting with it will work. Edit: oh it's not meant to be. Definitely still gonna try throwing in a pack with 2 of MoM though for a weird draft.
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 20:45 |
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thespaceinvader posted:??? That's not what I mean I mean embercleave made the designers scared of making actually good mono red cards. Two years after Embercleave came out there's been Ragavan and DRC, two of the most insane 1 drops ever printed. Also isn't Kiki-Jiki saga arguably the best card in standard right now?
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 20:46 |
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Lone Goat posted:Two years after Embercleave came out there's been Ragavan and DRC, two of the most insane 1 drops ever printed. It is. It's not a good monored aggro card though. Turn 3 2/2 that does nothing and dies, turn 4 some card selection but not card draw, turn 5 2/2 that does nothing and you've already lost because your opponent has stabilised. Fits into longer game control decks, maybe into burn, I guess, but those are usually better off with multiple colours. I tried it in aggro decks a bunch and it just felt terrible compared to any haste creature. Ragavan is excellent, yes, and hopefully a sign of the corner being turned. I don't offhand recorgnise the abbreviation for DRC. Wait, Dragon's Rage Channeler? Both of those are reprints, too, aren't they?
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 21:29 |
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You know how Arena releases a 30 card Alchemy set a month after every standard set? That's kind of what Aftermath is reminding me of, only it's legal in Standard.
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 21:44 |
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If all of the fuckin' angel cards in new capenna had been in "streets of new capenna: aftermath" that would've basically singehandedly fixed new capenna for me, honestly i feel like if you're going "but whyyyy" you're going out of your way to find reasons to complain
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 22:03 |
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The ability is at least interesting. I dont think its an aggro card its a combo card like https://scryfall.com/card/mm2/199/swans-of-bryn-argoll. Could be another piece in the runaway steam-kin/birgi grapeshot decks.
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 22:17 |
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Bugsy posted:
I really want to deal 40 damage to this guy while my opponent it tapped out during their turn.
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 22:20 |
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thespaceinvader posted:It is. Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer and Dragon's Rage Channeler were first printed in Modern Horizon's 2 and immediately took over every format they're playable in. Probably the biggest point of contention for the concept of creating cards specifically for eternal formats rather than letting cards enter organically via standard sets because of how strong they are. E: Ragavan is so good he's already banned in Legacy
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 22:27 |
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Lone Goat posted:Two years after Embercleave came out there's been Ragavan and DRC, two of the most insane 1 drops ever printed. And Pioneer/Explorer, and good in Modern, and Historic, and shows up in Legacy 5-0 dumps.
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 22:30 |
The formats with all of the broken cards from the history of Magic is dangerous to design for. Other metas and formats exist to avoid those old broken cards, and there are very good reasons why they try not to print cards that powerful.
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 22:31 |
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Fair enough. He's in MoM isn't he? Or have i misunderstood? Eh, maybe I'm projecting, but I've been super disappointed in red from a mono-red aggro perspective in most recent sets, and in a wide range of cycles of rares and mythics which have had big impacts in other colours, the red ones have been notably weak, useless for monored aggro, or both. I just miss having a useful standard monored deck, doubly so when every other colour is getting a turn 4 play that just blanks the majority of monored aggro. Or two in the case of black.
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 22:33 |
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Ragavan is being reprinted in the mystical archives thingy for MoM so not into Standard where he would be insanely overpowered
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 22:39 |
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I see mono red on the arena ladder pretty regularly and it is definitely out there keep folks honest with their monastery swift spears and kumano faces kahkazan even up in mythic. Embercleave was pretty wild when you look back on it, just like much of eldraine was
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 22:48 |
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Eej posted:Ragavan is being reprinted in the mystical archives thingy for MoM so not into Standard where he would be insanely overpowered I wouldn't be surprised if Rag saw a day 0 ban in Historic like Mishra's Bauble did because otherwise he'd completely gently caress that format up lol
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 23:12 |
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Lone Goat posted:I wouldn't be surprised if Rag saw a day 0 ban in Historic like Mishra's Bauble did because otherwise he'd completely gently caress that format up lol For sure. Historic doesnt need that.
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Khanstant faces KakkazanKhanstant posted:Out of curiosity do you have that walls deck? I considered building a wall commander but it seemed like a bad time for the table but competitive queue you have no obligation to anyone. Just curious what a standard wall deck looks like. In general I've built way more commander and draft decks than any 60 card decks. Wall deck that came out "just after DMU," it was likely based around 4x Wingmantle Chaplain, with 4x Shield-Wall Sentinel to tutor the Chaplain's up.
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 23:25 |
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deck is still loving stupid in bo1 ive never had a higher winrate over this many games in my life
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 23:47 |
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I hope they let ragavan loose in historic just so I can play the card and do fun stuff I see people do in the eternal formats
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 00:05 |
40 lbs to freedom posted:deck is still loving stupid in bo1 Do you just counter and stall until you can cast some big white sun twilight swarms?
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 00:11 |
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App13 posted:I just finished getting all the free starter decks, went through and put in the redemption codes for a bunch of packs, and opened em up. good call! sheoldred is a serious staple of just about any deck running black for obvious reasons. she puts a clock on the enemy, she lets you absorb more damage, she's a decent body for her casting cost and has deathtouch to boot. she's also from dominaria united which means she should stay standard legal for ages so you wont feel like you "wasted" the wildcards next rotation
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Khanstant posted:Do you just counter and stall until you can cast some big white sun twilight swarms? Mindsplice Apparatus knocking down the X cost of Twilight, yes.
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thespaceinvader posted:
the metagame data shows that RDW is still around 15% of the meta with decks that can do 55%-60% WR...
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 01:23 |
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The key to monored aggro is realising that one big dumb idiot only blocks one of your attackers, so you can still push damage through and then burn them out. Sheoldred is far more of a problem than Obliterator because if you have to take a turn building up your board to go around them, Sheoldred is gaining them life and putting the game out of reach, instead of just sitting there looking stupid.
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 01:28 |
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Kashuno posted:I hope they let ragavan loose in historic just so I can play the card and do fun stuff I see people do in the eternal formats I'd rather they unban Bolt first
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 02:20 |
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Jabor posted:The key to monored aggro is realising that one big dumb idiot only blocks one of your attackers, so you can still push damage through and then burn them out. I just added Sheoldred to my budget mono black aggro deck and by god does it slap
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40 lbs to freedom posted:deck is still loving stupid in bo1 I've played against a couple of these with simic poison and have been able to get under them with poison before they went off, I was wondering what the game plan was.
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 03:42 |
Jabor posted:The key to monored aggro is realising that one big dumb idiot only blocks one of your attackers, so you can still push damage through and then burn them out. I had a ton of fun winning as monored against an obliterator, even after accidentally buffing a creature to 5 power instead of spreading the raining Kaiju bonus to someone else. Even after destroying 5 permanents, leaving me with just a single land, with another land in hand. Drew lightning strike my next turn to finish them off. I could've lost with a lot of draws but glad I've survived my encounters so far.
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 04:23 |
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thespaceinvader posted:Fair enough. Why would you want rares and mythics? I'd much rather we get good uncommons. Going to be sad later in the year when kumano faces rotation. Red card I miss most from previous rotation is battle cry goblin, a 2 drop without haste needs better upside than firebrand right now when wedding announcement is everywhere. Everyone is running 4x mythics and like 3x rare legend for their 2 drops, they're ok but when you remember stuff like BTE being a standard rdw bear it feels sort of bad to be playing with worse cards at a higher rarity.
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 05:26 |
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Because Embercleaves and Bonecrusher Giants are better than Kumano Faces Kakkazan
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 05:34 |
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I seriously doubt they'll include Ragavan in the Arena MoM set but also I want them to keep pushing Historic towards Modern power levels. Unban bolt and counterspell and give us fetchlands.
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 05:37 |
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The online-only format (where searching and shuffling happens instantly) is the one place where fetchlands should be allowed imo
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i wouldn't be surprised if we get fetchlands once explorer becomes pioneer but i doubt we'll get it as long as historic is the way it currently is. same for bolt. maybe if we get another non-explorer extended format that's paper only but modern power level
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