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really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

Xaris posted:

even when I’m senile and can’t remember how to take a piss or even my own name, I will still remember the Clemson dinner

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Jun 14, 2021

handsome hamburger party

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

Xaris posted:

that’s right

even when I’m senile and can’t remember how to take a piss or even my own name, I will still remember the Clemson dinner

VideoKid
Jul 28, 2006

Avatar War

Mr. Sharps posted:

this guy forgot all about trump extending the hand of friendship to north korea (big, beautiful letter)

I known a lot of people have don’t have great opinions about the trump thread but you can’t deny that the man himself was really funny.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
me reading cspam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW0-K-mx4eI

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Xaris posted:

that’s right

lol the only politics lore from trump era was worth remembering was when the Clemson tigers won and hegovernment was shut down so trump went to McDonald’s and bought $500 of cold burgers and put them out on fancy tens of thousands of $ silver dishware

even when I’m senile and can’t remember how to take a piss or even my own name, I will still remember the Clemson dinner

the trump burger picture made me understand why people can worship famous artist works

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat
Trump Burger picture was a snapshot of America being really proud of itself. Genuine good natured and hearted cultural treasures on display. So much grander than the Talladega Nights dinner spread.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Homeless Friend posted:

the trump burger picture made me understand why people can worship famous artist works

He is the GOAT, no one will ever be as funny as him.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

KirbyKhan posted:

Trump Burger picture was a snapshot of America being really proud of itself. Genuine good natured and hearted cultural treasures on display. So much grander than the Talladega Nights dinner spread.

it's why i love the american gothic thread

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

it's funny to think about trevor lawrence being the star of the handsome hamburger party

Minecraft Holmes
Oct 21, 2016

AnimeIsTrash posted:

my brother MonsieurChoc went in guns blazing too

lmao

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
Mellow Seas going from a chapo bernie guy to posting death threats at people who wouldn't vote for biden and mellow not being permabanned.

Mr Hootington has issued a correction as of 04:05 on Feb 23, 2023

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Mr Hootington posted:

Mellow Seas going from a chapo bernie guy to posting death threats at people who wouldn't vote for biden and mellow not being permabanned.

*whispers* not so mellow...

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

Mr Hootington posted:

Mellow Seas going from a chapo bernie guy to posting death threats at people who wouldn't vote for biden and mellow not being permabanned.

lol what a cool journey

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

AnimeIsTrash posted:

He is the GOAT, no one will ever be as funny as him.

I don't think he's going to win again but I'd be in a much better able to appreciate his presidency from the get go, rather than wasting time being mad about it or trying to get bernie elected. it'd be pure entertainment. alas.

Bootleg Trunks
Jun 12, 2020

when jesse ventura was our governor and the dems and reps united to block anything and everything out of spite

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

Azathoth posted:

*whispers* not so mellow...

Decidedly not mellow

Grognan
Jan 23, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
the mayone.us thing with another guy that used the same name everywhere was a high point

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
ppj ultimate nazi discord infiltration heel turn owned

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
cool political saga outside the forums was when bush stole the 2000 election in plain sight and nobody cared, then referencing a report made by dick cheney saying tehre'd need to be a new pearl harbor to goto war in iraq, did 9/11 lmfao. and nobody cares. oh and then dick cheneys firm got one bajillion dollars in contracts from the mic. epic poo poo truly epic poo poo. and nobody cares. and people still call you a stupid baby if you mention this.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
cool political saga was when the entire american political and media apparatus unified to totally, expertly annihilate a boring guy who wanted to implement the most mundane social programs imaginable

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
message received and lesson loving learned :stonk:

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Smythe posted:

cool political saga was when the entire american political and media apparatus unified to totally, expertly annihilate a boring guy who wanted to implement the most mundane social programs imaginable

got off easy compared to Jeremy “The New Hitler But Worse” Corbyn. But only because Corbyn got closer.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Smythe posted:

message received and lesson loving learned :stonk:

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

Smythe posted:

message received and lesson loving learned :stonk:

TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

Mr Hootington posted:

Mellow Seas going from a chapo bernie guy to posting death threats at people who wouldn't vote for biden and mellow not being permabanned.

He should consider becoming tripolar because both of the ones he has are different flavors of poo poo

TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

Taintrunner saga owned simply for pulling back the curtain on how much the left-lib media ecosystem was really just people in overlapping upper middle class NYC social circles playing out petty interpersonal beefs by anthropomorphizing political movements and then burying them in columns to show what a loving rear end in a top hat your friend-of-a-friend Conrad or whoever is because that's how he self-describes

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Xaris posted:

lol remembering D&D stickied a suicide hotline after kween Hillary lost

the sticky was in cspam (i stickied it because multiple cspam posters threatened to k*ll themselves after hillary lost)

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Smythe posted:

ppj ultimate nazi discord infiltration heel turn owned

the thread where that got revealed + wampa lord probated everyone who mildly criticised koalas march for her part in it was so good, and also led to the 1,000 word ik resignation letter

wampalord posted:


Hello, posters of C-SPAM!

Based on all the recent events, I am stepping down as IK.

Before I do, I would like to make one effort post about my thoughts about the whole situation. I apologize in advance if this all seems long winded and hyperbolic, but also I know I have earned a lot of goodwill from many posters here and would like to address the community with the best and fullest explanation I can muster.

I tried as hard as I possibly could to fight for this community and make the mods/admins see sense. And while I deeply regret that so many posters have lost faith in the forums (and I 100% understand why they have) I at least feel like I can walk away with my head held high, knowing I went out swinging for the fences.

The PPJ saga or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Mods

I think something that has been lost in the time since all of this occurred is the loving scope and stupidity of this entire situation and loving poorly it was managed all around. PPJ throwing himself on the sword and getting permabanned before he could fully explain the situation or actually, you know, apologize, also poured gasoline on this fire. The re-opening of QCS was also a mistake as it allowed many posters with clear grudges against C-SPAM and the people who post there to poo poo up the discussion surrounding all of this. While the discussion was confined to C-SPAM, I was at least able to probate people who were clearly intent on disrupting necessary discussion.

The most shocking aspect of all of this to me, is how so much of it could have been avoided with the simple and effective trick of communicating with your user base. I realize the mods are unpaid volunteers, but the role is in essence a customer service job and as someone who has worked many customer service jobs, the kind of response the mods have given here would get you fired from literally all of them.

Personally I consider the initial powder keg moment to be the “Happy Holidays Dickeye” month probe. Very shortly after it happened, a thread was created in D&D appealing the decision, since QCS was closed. Many posters from both D&D and C-SPAM questioned the obvious unfairness of the probation, and rather than say “I’m sorry” and undoing the month, PPJ decided to dig his heels in and completely ignore the requests of the posters of his subforum while insultingly reducing it to 14 days as a “compromise.”

If an apology and a full lifting of the probe (or even just making it the standard 3 day probation that the D&D primary thread was known for) had happened right then and there, there is an extremely high chance literally none of this forums drama would have happened. PPJ would have gone on happily playing Rust with his Nazi buddies while secretly moonlighting as Discord Tailor Soldier Spy and no one would have been the wiser.

There appears to be this giant misconceived fear from the mods that if they apologize for or even acknowledge a bad decision, the baying crowd of crazy C-SPAM posters will call for their blood. In reality, we have found exactly the opposite to be the case. When LK came in and actually apologized and tried his best to explain what happened and engage in a dialogue with the community, he was treated extremely fairly and helped calm tensions at a point when they were incredibly high. I don’t understand this reluctance to tell a community that was wronged that you’re sorry for what happened, even if you weren’t directly involved.

I would like to quote a part of PPJ’s now-infamous OP to hammer home how incredibly loving stupid PPJ was in the hopes that nothing ever happens like this again:

quote:
Finally another goon and I got tired of this. We messaged Lowtax and said, "hey can you like, uh, just delete the gaming garbage discord and remake it if you're going to use it going forward for streams or patreon or anything going forward. as it is it's complete dogshit full of posts and posters you really would not be associated with any sort of donation drive (the only people posting comments on it are people who were permabanned from SA as it is)"

He said, wait, what the gently caress? Point me to them and I'll punt their asses off the server.

I said that was too much work and you wouldn't be able to get everybody. So bring GDN in. GDN is, if you don't know, the Goon Discord Network

Without wanting to come across as defending Lowtax and all of his recent actions, Lowtax’s initial impulse here (ban all the Nazis) was 100% the correct decision and PPJ told Lowtax “no, don’t do that” and proposed the solution that led to user personal information being compromised as well as all of the resulting fallout.

What in the absolute gently caress is the thinking behind this kind of decision? I honestly can’t comprehend it.

I’d like to say I’m extremely disappointed with logikv9 for just kind of letting all of this happen and never communicating with me when I was going all hands on deck to try to manage the chaos. I had a rough loving week dealing with all of this poo poo and getting absolutely 0 backup from anyone with mod/admin power made it all that much harder. I don’t think I should have had to PM him or anything for him to realize that I was working overtime and probably could have used assistance.

At least Captain_Maclaine reached out to me afterwards to apologize and explain that he was away when all of this went down, and he also had the decency to resign once he realized what exactly had happened. Silence has been damning throughout this whole process and I never had a problem with logik at all before this went down but unfortunately it seems like he’s another example of how not to mod a community.

The political lessons I am taking away and my thoughts about C-SPAM and the forums

We often joke a lot here about politics, and memes like “don’t trust the liberals, they will always betray you” have become part of the forums culture and consensus. Well, folks, those memes aren’t just jokes.

Take all of this as an incredibly abject lesson in how political power plays out. Yes, of course I realize that I’m talking about posts on an internet forum and not “real life” politics but this whole thing is such a perfect microcosm of what’s going on in the world politically these days that I can’t help but find it all extremely educational.

My hope is that President Bernie Sanders is the first small step we take towards possibly unfucking our country and society. I am and always will be an optimist at heart; I know that flies in the face of the inherent cynicism of Something Awful, but that time has passed. The mentality of “lol why do you care?” when applied to something that has life or death stakes is a poisonous one, but I can see why it’s practically impossible to separate it from this forum at this point. Many posters seem to cling to the forums status quo as comfort and think that changing the forums too much will invite disaster. I think that the community should grow and adapt with the times.

I keep coming back to that word. Community. Because that’s exactly what we are and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. Digital spaces are quickly becoming just as important as real ones, and this subforum has led countless posters into the world of real life political activism. poo poo this subforum has a decent chance of being fundamental to the election of a loving Senator (Go Jess! Keep up the work Nichael!)

Never let anyone tell you that you don’t matter or that it’s pointless to fight for a cause or care about politics. Let the passions of your hearts burn strong.

Solidarity forever, goons.

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

Happy Holidays Dickeye

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

exmarx posted:

the thread where that got revealed + wampa lord probated everyone who mildly criticised koalas march for her part in it was so good, and also led to the 1,000 word ik resignation letter

lmao i forgot about this epistle

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
jsut thought about when the mypillow guy followed trumps orders and made millions of mask which he then couldn't sell because mask were on the wrong side of the culture war and he went on record crying about it/losing millions

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

liberal pillow company

Angry BIerds
Nov 3, 2022

by Fluffdaddy

I hated him before there was a problem and I feel 100% vindicated

the sex ghost
Sep 6, 2009
Writing the entire text of finnegans wake to explain why I can't continue probing people for threadshitting

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

TheIncredulousHulk posted:

Taintrunner saga owned simply for pulling back the curtain on how much the left-lib media ecosystem was really just people in overlapping upper middle class NYC social circles playing out petty interpersonal beefs by anthropomorphizing political movements and then burying them in columns to show what a loving rear end in a top hat your friend-of-a-friend Conrad or whoever is because that's how he self-describes

the best part of the Taintrunner saga is apparently he was the Bernie Bro stereotype that the one obnoxious Doyle twitter freak was always crying about because they slept on his couch and he tried to have sex with the hubby or something

Angry BIerds
Nov 3, 2022

by Fluffdaddy
Crying about warmongering austerity rapists (God that's burned into my brain, how was that not a probe every time) while also being a rapist is a pretty bad stereotype ngl

the sex ghost
Sep 6, 2009
I only saw taintrunner towards the end but the weird remora posters who posted 'hell yeah run that taint!! Taints are running yall' when he called someone a rapist for idk taking the bus to work like he was a beloved sitcom character were very odd

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE
my abiding memory of the end of taintrunner is when he got banned and mastershakeman posted a QCS thread saying 'free taintrunner' and then was informed that he's a rapist and immediately backpedalled

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TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

EEKA GEEK posted:

I hated him before there was a problem and I feel 100% vindicated

I didn't hate him but I did find him loving exhausting and made him really mad a couple times in the succ thread by calling him a lib(which he absolutely loving was). Whenever he comes up and people try to claim that he was universally beloved in cspam before he got outed, it isn't really true


Xaris posted:

the best part of the Taintrunner saga is apparently he was the Bernie Bro stereotype that the one obnoxious Doyle twitter freak was always crying about because they slept on his couch and he tried to have sex with the hubby or something

IIRC the story was he attempted to sexually assault Jude himself pre-transition but I may be misremembering the details but yeah, he was patient zero

A lot of his aggro faux-Stalinism that he posted on SA ended up being in reaction to poo poo like feeling snubbed by Felix Biederman at a Brooklyn DSA mixer or something and being pissed about demsocs lmao. Probably the most sympathetic part of the story tbh, having met Felix once myself

John Charity Spring posted:

my abiding memory of the end of taintrunner is when he got banned and mastershakeman posted a QCS thread saying 'free taintrunner' and then was informed that he's a rapist and immediately backpedalled

"what"

legit the hardest I have ever laughed on this website

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