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Len posted:I assumed Council of Ricks was based off the Fantastic Four and the Council of Reeds Yeah, the Council of Ricks is riffing off Reed specifically, but the Council of Reeds was based on the Council of Kangs which predates it by a couple of decades. (The Council of Kangs, comprised of various versions of Kang that diverged due to his time traveling, should not be confused with the Council of Cross-Time Kangs, which included various aliens and other beings who had defeated Kang and taken his place. The film version seems to be based on both of them.)
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Mauser posted:I was confused why anyone liked that show because every character was insufferable and British. I could suffer Jemaine Clement as a disassociating swinging 60s beat poet for an eternity and found Amahl Farouk to be electrifyingly charismatic
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Cool Kids Club Soda posted:I could suffer Jemaine Clement as a disassociating swinging 60s beat poet for an eternity and found Amahl Farouk to be electrifyingly charismatic They are talking about Downton Abbey lol
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Grendels Dad posted:They are talking about Downton Abbey lol Then I've got some ideas to jazz it up if they ever do a reboot
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Angry Salami posted:Yeah, the Council of Ricks is riffing off Reed specifically, but the Council of Reeds was based on the Council of Kangs which predates it by a couple of decades. Incidentally Rick also had an arch-nemesis show up who's basically a riff on Namor, and a lot of things really come into place when you realise how much Rick is actually based on Reed Richards.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Incidentally Rick also had an arch-nemesis show up who's basically a riff on Namor, and a lot of things really come into place when you realise how much Rick is actually based on Reed Richards. Hasn't Marvel shown that almost every version of Reed Richards outside of the "main" one is actually psychotically evil? "Rick Sanchez is just Reed Richards who didn't get into the space accident" seems about right.
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Randalor posted:Hasn't Marvel shown that almost every version of Reed Richards outside of the "main" one is actually psychotically evil? "Rick Sanchez is just Reed Richards who didn't get into the space accident" seems about right. I was gonna say that, pretty much yes. And it's hilariously easy to have barely-parodies of Reed Richards who are morally compromised at best. (see the Venture Bros one)
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Randalor posted:Hasn't Marvel shown that almost every version of Reed Richards outside of the "main" one is actually psychotically evil? "Rick Sanchez is just Reed Richards who didn't get into the space accident" seems about right. There was a thing where part of the reason is that Reed's father set a bad example by being a super scientist who ditches his family. With "our" Reed being the only one whose father actually came back. Mostly because every other version died in an epic multiversal battle royale.
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muscles like this! posted:There was a thing where part of the reason is that Reed's father set a bad example by being a super scientist who ditches his family. With "our" Reed being the only one whose father actually came back. Mostly because every other version died in an epic multiversal battle royale.
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Splicer posted:Even the enfathered Reeds keep turning out to be one bad day away from supervillainy Whomst among us isn't
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I've not read many of the comics (I'm a DC guy), but I'm starting to see a pattern that Reed Richards is a mad scientist that is only good because he doesn't actively pursue evil intensions and that's basically it? Wasn't he also responsible the whole Marvel Zombies scenario? Now I am really wanting them to cast Glenn Howerton as Reed in the MCU.
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Ommin posted:I've not read many of the comics (I'm a DC guy), but I'm starting to see a pattern that Reed Richards is a mad scientist that is only good because he doesn't actively pursue evil intensions and that's basically it? Wasn't he also responsible the whole Marvel Zombies scenario? A depressing number of Marvel super-scientists are like that. It's a running joke with X-Men's Beast that he is an irresponsible asshat who will poke at the fabric of existence just to see what sound it makes when you poke at the fabric of existence.
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Biplane posted:Whomst among us isn't My goon most of us are one super power away from supervillainy.
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:My goon most of us are one super power away from supervillainy. And not even a good one, either. They'd use prehensile pubic hair to try and knock over a bank
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:My goon most of us are one
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Ommin posted:I've not read many of the comics (I'm a DC guy), but I'm starting to see a pattern that Reed Richards is a mad scientist that is only good because he doesn't actively pursue evil intensions and that's basically it? Wasn't he also responsible the whole Marvel Zombies scenario? Nah, Marvel Zombies got started where an already zombified Superma- ahem I mean Sentry suddenly appeared one day and started biting people.
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Grendels Dad posted:A depressing number of Marvel super-scientists are like that. It's a running joke with X-Men's Beast that he is an irresponsible asshat who will poke at the fabric of existence just to see what sound it makes when you poke at the fabric of existence. I mean one of the recent versions of Beast do make him an evil mad scientist willing to do anything to get the results he wants.
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Ah, so a Republican
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It's ok. He's a big tough man who's willing to do the bad things in order to.... Make choices that other people wouldn't. It's... Yea basically it's hosed. Man I remember when I was a kid and the only weird poo poo in X-Men was whatever fetish Claremont had at the time. Now it's different planets and clones and polycules and various evil people doing random evil poo poo cause they are evil. Oh yea. Also sinister, instead of being an eccentric genius is now a dude who cloned himself across 4 diff "tribes" that all have a different card symbol on their head instead of a diamond, and they are all fighting each other because reasons. Remember way back when Proteus popped up and made wolverine all bendy and broke him mentally for like half a year? poo poo was way less complex back then.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:It's ok. He's a big tough man who's willing to do the bad things in order to.... Make choices that other people wouldn't. It's... Yea basically it's hosed. 
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X-Men always seems to lend itself to weird convoluted poo poo and family and continuity clusterfucks. It's probably the large cast, global scale and social commentary angles. They also fight Dracula semi-regularly.
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Remember how mutants were introduced to marvel with the explicit editorial purpose of being able to give characters superpowers without any complex origin or baggage?
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Leave posted:And not even a good one, either. They'd use prehensile pubic hair to try and knock over a bank
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Nah, Marvel Zombies got started where an already zombified Superma- ahem I mean Sentry suddenly appeared one day and started biting people.
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That Italian Guy posted:Ah, the Mistfits treatment, dairy control. One of the highest bodycount in the series. What a good show that was. Uh, mostly.
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Morpheus posted:I mean one of the recent versions of Beast do make him an evil mad scientist willing to do anything to get the results he wants. Wasn't Dark Beast introduced in the 90's? He was an Age of Apocalypse baddie and openly admitted it.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:What a good show that was. What a good show that was. Thank goodness they stopped after two seasons.
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Randalor posted:Wasn't Dark Beast introduced in the 90's? He was an Age of Apocalypse baddie and openly admitted it. Yeah, but my understanding is that Morpheus is referring to current 616/main Marvel comics Beast who was a scientist working for the CIA, or something? Ghost Leviathan posted:Nah, Marvel Zombies got started where an already zombified Superma- ahem I mean Sentry suddenly appeared one day and started biting people. That was the start, but the reason that whole universe/dimension became either zombies or zombie food was because of Reed. Early on in the infection, there were still a lot of survivors holed up on the Helicarrier, and Reed, Stark, and Banner were working on a cure and, failing that, making a portal to a "safe" dimension they could go to. to escapte. But Reed went crazy, as he is want to do, and figured that CLEARLY this zombie virus is the peak of evolution and he deliberately infected the rest of the F4, who then in turn infected the rest of the heroes who were still on the Helicarrier, and Thor had to destroy their "emergency, last minute dimensional portal" device so they wouldn't spread to other dimensions. IIRC, across all the various Marvel Zombie series, they briefly pop into both the Ultimate Universe (that's how they made their introduction, it was a tease in one issue that Ultimate F4 would meet the "main" 616 F4, but it was the zombies pretending to be them so the Ultimate F4 would make a portal device (I guess the zombie F4 could only make an inter-dimensional communication device, not a full portal) and also into the main 616 universe through The Nexus in Florida...I think? I remember a brief story with a Marvel Zombie Deadpool head who, due to his Deadpool power, was more in control of his faculties than the average zombie, but also couldn't regenerate anymore so was just a head, and he traveled with some other 616 zombie, but that zombie was an actual voodoo style magic zombie, not undead virus zombie, and it somehow made him immune? I can't remember. I'm sure Giant-Sized Man-Thing was involved, too. BUT THEN, I think, the zombies did go to another Marvel universe, not 616, and started loving things up there, so The Watchers "fixed" the problem by taking the Sentry from that universe, who was now infected, and sent him to the FIRST Marvel Zombies universe to make a self-contained time/dimensional loop so no other dimension would get Zombified. DrBouvenstein has a new favorite as of 16:10 on Feb 23, 2023 |
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So is Marvel Zombies worth reading, and why haven't we had superhero zombies in the MCU yet, and just franchise zombies?
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DrBouvenstein posted:Yeah, but my understanding is that Morpheus is referring to current 616/main Marvel comics Beast who was a scientist working for the CIA, or something? https://www.polygon.com/23604587/wolverine-kills-beast-x-men
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Randalor posted:So is Marvel Zombies worth reading, and why haven't we had superhero zombies in the MCU yet, and just franchise zombies? Ehhhhh....it's a mixed bag. The original run in Ultimate Fantastic Four is good, maybe the first two runs (Marvel Zombies 1 and 2) and from there it's on and off. There was even an Ash vs Marvel Zombies series which was at least interesting since Ash was confused why the Marvel Zombies were nothing like the Deadite zombies he was used to.
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DrBouvenstein posted:Yeah, but my understanding is that Morpheus is referring to current 616/main Marvel comics Beast who was a scientist working for the CIA, or something? The "Beast is an amoral monster" panels I see getting posted most often around the internet have Maria Hill, then-director of SHIELD, waking up in a cold sweat because she dreamed, not without reason, that Hank McCoy blew up the moon
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Phy posted:The "Beast is an amoral monster" panels I see getting posted most often around the internet have Maria Hill, then-director of SHIELD, waking up in a cold sweat because she dreamed, not without reason, that Hank McCoy blew up the moon  A guy who sees every indiscretion every person on planet Earth does shows up to personally say "yo, you're hosed up".
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The hosed up thing is that was BEFORE he went all batshit crazy on the latest run.
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Randalor posted:So is Marvel Zombies worth reading, and why haven't we had superhero zombies in the MCU yet, and just franchise zombies? didnt Disney Plus have a What If? episode? it was their first big boy MA rated thing with the Marvel ip iirc too.
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PhazonLink posted:didnt Disney Plus have a What If? episode? it was their first big boy MA rated thing with the Marvel ip iirc too. Yes, and they have an entire Marvel Zombies spin-off series coming too.
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Randalor posted:So is Marvel Zombies worth reading, and why haven't we had superhero zombies in the MCU yet, and just franchise zombies? It started out good because its Return of the Living Dead style sentient zombies, but Marvel ran that poo poo into the ground.
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DCeased is way better than Marvel Zombies anyway, especially since they actually acknowledge that all of the gods and cosmic beings would get involved in the fight at some point. The latest books have crazy stuff like zombie Mister Mxyzptlk vs. The Spectre.
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In Sonic the Hedgehog 2, he disassembles an armored truck in super speed. Except that he's using an electric drill which wouldn't be able to keep plus it was the wrong kind of drill to loosen screws.
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Tagichatn posted:In Sonic the Hedgehog 2, he disassembles an armored truck in super speed. Except that he's using an electric drill which wouldn't be able to keep plus it was the wrong kind of drill to loosen screws. I found those movies enjoyable but they're awful hand-wavey when it comes to consistency. I guess it's a little weird to pick apart something like this, but it bothers me when you show Sonic travel far away, play a bunch of games, and come back within two seconds, and then at any fuckin point ever try to suggest Sonic isn't fast enough. I mean, I know stuff like that is just a gag, but... it's a gag that's so central to the entire Sonic entity. It muddies things up. It's kind of like, if, say, Gandalf demonstrated to Frodo that he can teleport and control time but it's used only as a funny quippy joke.
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