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Beeftweeter posted:he's still recognizably a ferengi, but i mean... i don't think other ferengi would think he's much of one, which (at least per quark) seems to be incredibly important to them I don't think Worf was staking out Sneed so much as shadowing Raffi to make sure she didn't go anything stupid and get herself killed, which she was basically guaranteed to do because she's a gently caress up who loves going rogue.
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nine-gear crow posted:I don't think Worf was staking out Sneed so much as shadowing Raffi to make sure she didn't go anything stupid and get herself killed, which she was basically guaranteed to do because she's a gently caress up who loves going rogue. lol that's a good point i kinda get the sense that worf was like "nah not gonna do an in-person meet" because he's just using her for some unspecified purpose right now. she's comically bad at it to the point that even if it's misdirection it's still poorly written
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actually... didn't worf get in trouble for staking out a different, more famous ferengi? because he didn't want to rely on others? lol
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HD DAD posted:Riker popping in throughout the episode with a bunch of “c’mon seriously?”s was wonderful. Riker was basically the audience in this one and it’s great. I agree with John Wick of Dogs though, I don’t get the Vadic love here. She’s a cartoon caricature of a Star Trek movie villain so far. She’s the bad guy who shows up in the first 30 seconds of a Lower Decks holomovie episode and just cackles while trying to kill Mariner.
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Feb 23, 2023 21:09
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Riker was basically the audience in this one and it’s great. The writers: Look, she's played by Christopher Plummer's daughter, she laughs like a loose cannon, and she proves how edgy she is because she smokes and uses a cool lighter... she's basically the trifecta!
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Riker was basically the audience in this one and it’s great. she went maximum ham with it, which is probably appropriate. i don't have high expectations though but i would totally watch a picard-riker buddy cop show where they go around solving minor mysteries
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Feb 23, 2023 21:16
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Beeftweeter posted:she went maximum ham with it, which is probably appropriate. i don't have high expectations though Riker solves every mystery in the first five minutes, but has to follow Picard around as he takes five times as long to reach the same conclusion.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Riker was basically the audience in this one and it’s great. Yeah she's like live-action Vindicta or something, it's weird. Also lol that the speech they used in the trailer that made it sound like she was on some sort of personal vendetta against Picard was just the speech here used as a threat about how mean she is. It would be totally hilarious if the "most cunning foe Picard ever fights" was just some simple bounty hunter who has a lot of guns and keeps messing up their attempts to stop the real big conspiracy because she must always get her bounty.
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Adding my own dumb nitpick for the episode into the pile: The Titan's doctor shoulda smacked the utter poo poo outta Riker for trying to force her patient awake. 
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Feb 23, 2023 21:28
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HD DAD posted:Riker solves every mystery in the first five minutes, but has to follow Picard around as he takes five times as long to reach the same conclusion. picard & riker in: "where did the time go?" an episode in which admiral picard (retired) insists his youth has been stolen by time burglars. an angry yet also retired riker knows the truth but is hesitant to reveal it to his quite literally old mentor
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My Second Re-Reg posted:Adding my own dumb nitpick for the episode into the pile: The Titan's doctor shoulda smacked the utter poo poo outta Riker for trying to force her patient awake. lol yeah. not only would that not have happened on prior series, we'd be treated to a 5 minute long monologue about why it's a bad idea
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My Second Re-Reg posted:Adding my own dumb nitpick for the episode into the pile: The Titan's doctor shoulda smacked the utter poo poo outta Riker for trying to force her patient awake. I bet Riker pulled that crap all the time when he was Captain of the Titan.
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terry matalas screaming from the catacombs "ITS JAZZ HE LIKES TO IMPROVISE"
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Beeftweeter posted:
i am going to disagree with you here slightly. Star Trek is not averse to gory violence, hell TNG had plenty of it. Wrath of Kahn, First Contact, had some pretty vicersally violent stuff going on.
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Raffi spending all that time in deep cover to gain intel on some stolen tech and barely learning anything, only for it to turn out that a key guy behind it was an associate of her ex-husband the whole time. What are the odds?
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Mooseontheloose posted:i am going to disagree with you here slightly. Star Trek is not averse to gory violence, hell TNG had plenty of it. Wrath of Kahn, First Contact, had some pretty vicersally violent stuff going on. i don't completely disagree, but that was a little *cough* over the top i mean, worf in DS9 clearly kills a lot of people, as do sisko, kira, o'brien, dax etc. (but not julian, the doctor, or odo the lawman, with one exception). it's unusual for them to keep mowing people down and it's only been two episodes i guess that circles back to "these really shouldn't have been split into two parts" though. pretty much everything suffers for it, including the audience
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Mooseontheloose posted:i am going to disagree with you here slightly. Star Trek is not averse to gory violence, hell TNG had plenty of it. Wrath of Kahn, First Contact, had some pretty vicersally violent stuff going on. TNG had an episode that had such a gorey scene in "Conspiricy" - Picard and Riker kill the leader parisite which leads to the host exploding from the waist up - that they had to run a special content warning.
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Feb 23, 2023 21:51
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Twincityhacker posted:TNG had an episode that had such a gorey scene in "Conspiricy" - Picard and Riker kill the leader parisite which leads to the host exploding from the waist up - that they had to run a special content warning. lol if this is all foreshadowing for their return
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Feb 23, 2023 21:54
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Feb 23, 2023 21:56
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shaw. they are setting him up to be too likable
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HD DAD posted:Whose head is going to explode this time? “The audience’s from all these crazy reveals, man!” - Terry Matalas Who’s willing to toxx that the next episode contains an exchange similar to the following: quote:Picard:
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I can almost guarantee you that will be word for word next week.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:“The audience’s from all these crazy reveals, man!” "I wanted him to live a normal life of renegade scoundrel medical supply smuggling like all self-actualized Federation citizens in the 25th century do! Not recklessly gallivant around some vineyard on Earth!!"
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Feb 23, 2023 22:19
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remember "the outrageous okona" and "bloodlines"? everyone loves those episodes. what if we could combine them in a way that makes no sense for any character involved
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it turns out that vadic is actually kurn. man did that guy get confused
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Beeftweeter posted:it turns out that vadic is actually kurn. man did that guy get confused When she comes for dinner and agrees to try the burned replicated bird meat, we'll know...
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it was crazy how big a dicks they were about the conspiracy guy. like after they explode his fuckin head they're like, heh, that'll show that guy for being jerks to us. he was taken over by a parasite! he gave you guys a good grade on your report!
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That DICK! posted:it was crazy how big a dicks they were about the conspiracy guy. like after they explode his fuckin head they're like, heh, that'll show that guy for being jerks to us. he was taken over by a parasite! he gave you guys a good grade on your report! TERRY MATALAS: he wanted to join the crew!!! he said it was the best he'd ever seen, got bitten by a bug, then picard and riker simultaneously blow up his skull. savage, unfair, murderous, monstrous: these are the adjectives that come to mind when i think of this dastardly duo
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Beeftweeter posted:TERRY MATALAS: he wanted to join the crew!!! he said it was the best he'd ever seen, got bitten by a bug, then picard and riker simultaneously blow up his skull. savage, unfair, murderous, monstrous: these are the adjectives that come to mind when i think of this dastardly duo I would fully expect Terry Matalas to have the same dumb childbrained outlooks on a lot of the poo poo that happened in Season 1 and 2 TNG as JJ Abrams and Chris Terrio did in regard to "Why didn't they give Chewie a medal in A New Hope? We should write it into our movie that Chewie finally gets a medal! That's a scene that HAS to be in there, no mater what else we cut." Only it's like giving Groppler Zorn his due, or taking a five minute detour to the Code of Honor planet to go "See, not racist  " or something. I mean, they're already bringing Tasha back some how...
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Was that ever actually confirmed? She made a point on twitter that she wasn’t even invited to the big premiere even though Wheaton and others were there.
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nine-gear crow posted:I mean, they're already bringing Tasha back some how... Where did we hear this?
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nine-gear crow posted:I would fully expect Terry Matalas to have the same dumb childbrained outlooks on a lot of the poo poo that happened in Season 1 and 2 TNG as JJ Abrams and Chris Terrio did in regard to "Why didn't they give Chewie a medal in A New Hope? We should write it into our movie that Chewie finally gets a medal! That's a scene that HAS to be in there, no mater what else we cut." i got into star trek when the lockdown happened and have only watched most things once, so i apologize if the authoritative trek lover considers this take 'childbrained', but then, im not making the show.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Was that ever actually confirmed? She made a point on twitter that she wasn’t even invited to the big premiere even though Wheaton and others were there. Charity Porno posted:Where did we hear this? I just checked to make sure and Matalas said that Tasha's not going to appear in Season 3 and Denise Crosby was just talking out of her rear end, but that Tasha well be referenced somehow, so it'll probably be "Hey, remember Tasha's Widows XP home page hologram thing? Remember? Huh? Huuuh? Anyone?"
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Setting the final TNG movie with the Romulans and not using it as an opportunity to close out Selas story arc was such a missed opportunity and evidence of the incompetence infecting Trek even back then.
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TerminalRaptor posted:Setting the final TNG movie with the Romulans and not using it as an opportunity to close out Selas story arc was such a missed opportunity and evidence of the incompetence infecting Trek even back then. Hell, having the first season of Picard be ostensibly about hinky Romulan poo poo and Sela being completely MIA from it as well also track with that.
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i've never really been particularly interested in the sela arc. the whole thing just seems like denise crosby regretting leaving the cast, so they gave her a role i know "yesterday's enterprise" is a mostly-beloved episode but i think it's really not good lol. admittedly making that her provenance probably soured me a bit on the character but she's just not a good actress, either i mean, yeah: tasha was pretty terribly written, but crosby's performance didn't help anything
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lol imagine what a kick in the nuts it must be to bill wheaton: "the big mystery box mcmuffin of this season is beverly crusher's son,--" "wow, it'll be great to be back on set; can I get a script so i can--" "--jack crusher. you can keep doing the bullshit jerkoff show-after-the-show-where-we-talk-about-the-show-you-just-watched."
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does anyone actually watch that? even in his traveler appearance it seemed like he was in presenter mode lol seems a bit weird for them to do a show-after-the-show when the thing "airs" at 3 AM ET on a thursday anyway
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Bringing back Orla Brady for three seasons to play an interesting character well and then do nothing with her is absolutely mindboggling.
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