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Shageletic posted:Felt bad about Ant Man everything Cassie jabbed him about missing for 5 yrs. Pretty sure it wasn't his fault and most ppl are dealing with the same issue? How old is she supposed to be again, in her early 20s? There's also the implication from Cassie that he's grown complacent but we never see anything like that.
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I thought they did an incredible makeup job on Newton to make her look younger, then realized she is not in fact Katherine McNamara.
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STAC Goat posted:There's still room for surprise Thunderbolts. The ones we know are the ones who were already established in the MCU. I would be pretty surprised if they didn't find a way to work Zemo into this considering Bucky is there and I have to think Moonstone is a real possibility. There's also always wild speculation ideas like that silly Venom nonsense from No Way Home resulting in a Mac Gargan Venom or something. He definitely fits the bill for a Thunderbolts job
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Feb 24, 2023 01:10
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Zemo in Wakanda and Abomination in Kamar-Taj is more interesting than adding them to an already crowded team with bigger characters already in it.
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CzarChasm posted:Poorly. At least Superman has weakness to Kryptonie and vulnerability to magic, so there's avenues to pursue. Honestly yeah I can only see it as Yelena and/or possibly taskmaster reaching through to Bob while he is the void through the power of empathy
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Taskmaster is barely a character in Black Widow, I hope they flesh her out more in this movie
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I can see them adding stuff like Zemo and Abomination, but I think it’s already pretty stuffed to try and bring in new characters. Unless they make Steve Yuen Wolverine, then I’m on board
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FlamingLiberal posted:Taskmaster is barely a character in Black Widow, I hope they flesh her out more in this movie It’s an ensemble movie, she won’t.
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Feb 24, 2023 11:41
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If Ghost can still phase, she can just reach into Sentry's chest and stop his heart
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STAC Goat posted:Isn't Citizen V already in the MCU? Oh right, that's another reason they can't.
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Feb 24, 2023 14:18
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live with fruit posted:There's also the implication from Cassie that he's grown complacent but we never see anything like that. They really overloaded Cassie'a character with too many negative and plot centric attributes, it's a shame. Hopefully they and the actor do a better job the second go around, if there is one. Feels like Hope didn't get enough to do?
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Yeah there wasn't a whole lot of "And the Wasp".
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It feels like they've squeezed all the juice they can from Scott. His cute relationship with his daughter isn't as cute now that she's an angsty teen and he's no longer the working class Avenger so he's just the least qualified member of his own team. Meanwhile, Hope has apparently become a new Stark in the background. Let her be the main Team Ant representative in the Avengers movies.
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Davros1 posted:If Ghost can still phase, she can just reach into Sentry's chest and stop his heart
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live with fruit posted:It feels like they've squeezed all the juice they can from Scott. His cute relationship with his daughter isn't as cute now that she's an angsty teen and he's no longer the working class Avenger so he's just the least qualified member of his own team. Meanwhile, Hope has apparently become a new Stark in the background. Let her be the main Team Ant representative in the Avengers movies. This is supposed to make me like Hope more?
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Arist posted:This is supposed to make me like Hope more? Not like per se, just that she's more interesting.
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This is gonna sound mean, but I feel like we have a lot of Hopes already and they're never actually that interesting.
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live with fruit posted:Not like per se, just that she's more interesting. I personally don't see how "another hyper competent sci fi mega genius" is more interesting than "guy who absolutely should not be an Avenger and continually hopes nobody notices" at this point in the MCU where it feels like 75% of all characters are the former
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I’m assuming the Wasp was less of a focus because the actress is all anti-vaccine. She’s easier to push to the back than Shuri.
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SlimGoodbody posted:I personally don't see how "another hyper competent sci fi mega genius" is more interesting than "guy who absolutely should not be an Avenger and continually hopes nobody notices" at this point in the MCU where it feels like 75% of all characters are the former That's not who Scott is anymore though. He's fought Thanos and Kang and lived. He can also apparently be Giant Man for as long as he wants.
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The main issue is that Evangeline Lilly is kind of dull and an anti-vaxxer, while Paul Rudd is one of the most charismatic and likable actors working today, so I don't see them swapping around
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Scott’s still pretty unique from most of the MCU heroes as he’s a father and a guy who just kind stumbled into this instead of being the best at something or raised for it. Plus it’s not like experience and past disappear when your lot in life changes. People who spent their entire lives like Scott did aren’t gonna have the same perspectives or reactions as soldiers and scientists and whatever. There are some more heroes like She Hulk and Kamala that feel similar in being normal people who end up heroes. But they have their own unique experiences. I do think Scott’s “trilogy” could be done. But like there’s still room for him as an Avenger or teamup or whatever I think. And yeah, it’s Paul Rudd. They’re not ditching him voluntarily. And really that could be plenty enough reason for another Ant Man movie.
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STAC Goat posted:Scott’s still pretty unique from most of the MCU heroes as he’s a father and a guy who just kind stumbled into this instead of being the best at something or raised for it. Plus it’s not like experience and past disappear when your lot in life changes. People who spent their entire lives like Scott did aren’t gonna have the same perspectives or reactions as soldiers and scientists and whatever. Scott is a soldier, and a spy. He fought in the giant battle against Thanos and his entire utility to the Pyms is as an agent for them since he doesn't make any of the tech he uses. His transformation from "civilian" to soldier is the same as his transformation from getting fired from Baskin-Robbins to cutting ribbons there.
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The would probably be a cool revolving door style thing for Avengers if they, you know, were funded somehow. I can see a lot of characters doing the 'made it to the big leagues but keep me as a reservist' thing to keep them relatable. Like in 7 years Lang runs a 'hero training' course for regular guys and one for actual capes and it all goes back to 'Avengers? Yeah you can only fight against the end of the world so many times until you just decide to get a regular 9-5 with benefits'
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live with fruit posted:Scott is a soldier, and a spy. He fought in the giant battle against Thanos and his entire utility to the Pyms is as an agent for them since he doesn't make any of the tech he uses. His transformation from "civilian" to soldier is the same as his transformation from getting fired from Baskin-Robbins to cutting ribbons there. I don't really agree with this take but even if I grant that anyone who has fought in a "battle" is a "soldier" it still doesn't change the fact that people are the full sum of their lives, not just the most recent part of it. So Scott spent 30+ years being a civilian, everyman, thief, con, father, etc before becoming a "soldier". And this still sets him apart from a world where most of the heroes are career soldiers of some kind or another or people excelling at some science or fight form or something. And that gives him a different perspective from Sam or Rhodey or Bruce. And again, there are more "civilians" out of Phase 4 especially with the idea that no one who survived Thanos is a "civilian" anymore. But Scott still kind of has a uniqueness of the Infinity Saga veteran old guard. He has been through the wars, but he's also been on the other side which the career soldiers can't really say in the same way.
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How many active Avengers actually have a military background? Sam, Carol, Rhodey and Bucky (and he wasn't a career soldier) is my count. And now that they're adding street level heroes, Scott becomes less modest.
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Thor is basically a lifetime soldier even if its clearly a different culture. But yeah there's less of them now that Steve, Nat, and presumably Clint are gone. But clearly the Infinity Saga heroes were more built around the idea of everything kind of being born out of the Cap experiments and it made some sense that most of the heroes were just super spys or soldiers given the newest tech. Now with Phase 4 most of the heroes are much more organically "born" and there's a much more diverse sampling of origins, backgrounds, and people. And I think that's all clearly by design. But if we assume Scott is a "vet" in this world and part of the Infinity War old guard he's still potentially the most grounded voice in that crew.
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Keep Scott but make it The Wasp and Ant-Man.
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live with fruit posted:How many active Avengers actually have a military background? Sam, Carol, Rhodey and Bucky (and he wasn't a career soldier) is my count. And now that they're adding street level heroes, Scott becomes less modest. Including non-Avengers, there is at least Natasha Romanov, Yelena Bolova, Clint Barton, Steve Rogers, Frank Castle, Nick Fury, you could argue Gamora and Nebula, all the Dora Milaje, Red Guardian, Taskmaster, probably a few others I'm not remembering.
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Like theoretically I'd want Sam's Avengers to have people like She Hulk, Shang Chi, and Luke Cage in it. But Scott also kind of fits that vibe of people who aren't brought together by SHIELD or trained to be "heroes" but just kind of ended up here and stepped up. And the fact that Scott isn't the "every man" anymore and has one foot in both worlds theoretically is something you can do stuff with. Like there's a theoretical place for Scott between guys like Sam, Rhodey, and Carol who might expect something from new Avengers and the Phase 4 heroes who are a lot more loose and less inclined to be all "chain of command." STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Feb 24, 2023 |
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Ant Man felt like a 6-issue mini series but I only managed to read issues 1, 4, and 6. The only CG in the movie that actively bothered me was ... it was Wasp flying and shooting and then a close up of her mask face, but she was just in the bottom third of the frame with explosions in the background, and it felt like they dropped two seconds of footage from the shot and also cropped it stupid, and I'm 80% sure that exact shot got re-used like 3 minutes later. Also a lot of very obvious "this was filmed in front of a green screen" shots, which I never ever ever notice Sockser fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Feb 24, 2023 |
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Sockser posted:Ant Man felt like a 6-issue mini series but I only managed to read issues 1, 4, and 6. The problem was less with the CG than just how it was directed. All the trippy images worked but the attack on the rebel base was boring and they did nothing to put their own spin on the generic military battle ending. Speaking of, Scott killed hundreds of people in this movie.
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They're smaller than a quark, it doesn't count
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Another thing that stuck with me-- This movie is 50% Janet being all "don't ask me about the quantum realm I don't want to talk about the quantum realm gently caress the quantum realm you shouldn't be messing with the quantum realm" But wasn't the end of Ant-Man 2 the entire Ant-family loving around with the Quantum Realm, Janet included? e: oh, having typed this out, I suppose that that scene could've happened """""chronologically""""" before this Kang existed? Like pre-Loki Janet was in dead-nothing-empty quantum realm and post-Infinity War Janet was in cool fancy alien Kang quantum realm?
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Sockser posted:Another thing that stuck with me-- I assume it's like the difference between studying tide pools and the deep ocean. She mentions that they're much deeper than Hank went in AM&TW.
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It's kind of glossed over but as far as anyone else knows the quantum realm is just weird floaty poo poo like in the first 2 movies, the fact that anything other than Janet lives down there was the reveal. You could definitely make the argument that He Who Remains dying did cause an in universe retcon though
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Yeah I thought at first that all of Kang's cool guards with the rad synthesiser voice were robots so kaijuu Ant Man was fine.. but then you have one who is saying he'll die before helping Wasp and they seem pretty sentient so I dunno. The movie was great I thought. Would have been worth watching just for Scott's MODOFK line and his tragic flashbacks constantly being interrupted. I love all the weird alien lands and people that the MCU has, not just in this movie but everything. I was genuinely sad when laserface died.
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I'm curious to see if we see the Quantum Realm characters again. Feels like the general or whatever got too much attention to not bring back. And it'd be a waste of Jackson Harper.
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live with fruit posted:I'm curious to see if we see the Quantum Realm characters again. Feels like the general or whatever got too much attention to not bring back. And it'd be a waste of Jackson Harper. Just cast him as Reed, already. He's not the first actor to play multiple roles in the MCU. Also I want to see more of the Quantum Ants and their glorious Socialist Utopia.
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