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Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Well you see the thread's intended goal was to say that other parts of the forum are evil and therefore

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KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Tiny Timbs posted:

lol that the GBS thread gets closed while the one that had people calling dead Ukrainian children crisis actors gets to live on. The war is too serious for shitposting, after all

Yeah and to insult all that, didn't give any links at all. Just a close and 'look it up'. I'll be damned if I'm going to go to either of the other offerings, I value my sanity thank you very much.

Confusedslight
Jan 9, 2020
Extremely dumb move to close the gbs one but I'm glad this threads still going strong.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
It's possible to find a thread where some dude was obviously excited about the prospect of Russian soldiers resorting to cannibalism distasteful while still hoping Putin and his buddies lose this war and their heads :thermidor:.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Any map updates?

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?
If you want to talk about the GBS thread, do it elsewhere.

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president

Arc Hammer posted:

Any map updates?

Been wondering this.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost


Anyway, I hope the newfound lurkers and readers like long-ish, boring policy updates full of things like “Not much this update, USAI process means this is months out.”

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Arc Hammer posted:

Any map updates?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4bSkuMpR2Q

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Edit: Whatever, not allowed to talk about it anywhere unless I gather a group of weirdos to post long angry screeds about the mods with me

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 4 days!)

Don't bring it here, please? Thanks.

Deus Ex Macklemore
Jul 2, 2004


Zelensky's Zealots
Another GBS refugee here. I'll do my best to not gently caress it up.

Edit: I come bearing a link, don't know if it was posted here yet

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/02/russian-carrier-kuznetsov-leaves-dry-dock-at-last/

Lol WATCH OUT EVERYONE

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

There were folks who were doing a lot of great updates in the GBS thread that I hope make it over to here. The diversity of experience and opinion was great, which is why I generally preferred it to posting with fellow vets. I have Ukrainian roots myself but my lived experience is limited to growing up in a Ukrainian immigrant community so I don’t have much to offer myself.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Flyinglemur posted:

Another GBS refugee here. I'll do my best to not gently caress it up.

Edit: I come bearing a link, don't know if it was posted here yet

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/02/russian-carrier-kuznetsov-leaves-dry-dock-at-last/

Lol WATCH OUT EVERYONE

I imagine the Kuznetsov remains the same broken shell it was before it went into drydock.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

CommieGIR posted:

I imagine the Kuznetsov remains the same broken shell it was before it went into drydock.

Russia's announcement is that it won't return to operations until 2024. So even if it were all fixed and wonderful somehow, that's still a ways out.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
sending people to d&d and cspam is not a solution its trying to give posters brain worms

sending them here is pretty laffo tho

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?
Last warning. Talk about Ukraine, not Something Awful.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
A great year on retrospective by one of our favorite classicists, Bret Devereaux.

https://acoup.blog/2023/02/24/collections-one-year-into-the-war-in-ukraine/

Very unfortunate about the GBS thread. It was the best thread on this topic on the forum.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Good thing Ukraine has held strong in the face of adversity.

Edit: Appeasement protocol is in place.

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~

psydude posted:

The economist has a fantastic and terrifying diary from an office manager turned platoon leader who was in Bakhmut in August.

https://www.economist.com/1843/2023/02/22/the-secret-diary-of-a-ukrainian-soldier-death-and-drones-on-the-eastern-front

It's long and has accompanying pictures, so I'm not going to post it all here.

Is there a way to read these without signing up?

tiaz
Jul 1, 2004

PICK UP THAT PRESENT.


Zelensky's Zealots

Radical 90s Wizard posted:

Is there a way to read these without signing up?

I guess I had a free article. I don't know if docdroid sucks or not but I don't have a ready better way to get it to all of you - https://docdro.id/0BYH8HS also NB the pdf renderer split some of the images across multiple pages. but the content's all there

I also came here from GBS, I'll do my best but do let me know if I get out over my skis here.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Flyinglemur posted:

Another GBS refugee here. I'll do my best to not gently caress it up.

Edit: I come bearing a link, don't know if it was posted here yet

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/02/russian-carrier-kuznetsov-leaves-dry-dock-at-last/

Lol WATCH OUT EVERYONE

That's a ship even I wouldn't touch.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

You'd have to find it first

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


That's easy just look for the giant plume of smoke that's moving about 15 knots.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



GBS refugee's guide to posting in GiP:

1) Don't bring interforum drama here, you will get paddled.

2) see 1.

3) :justpost:


Kuznetsov is never going to be able to sail on an actual deployment anywhere, she's already ancient, and runs on poo poo that's worse than as bad as Bunker C, and Russian maintenance of their engineering plants is laughable. She's just going to burn up resources, and then probably burn up while anchored to a pier.

E: apparently Mazut is equivalent to No. 6 Fuel Oil, so basically the absolute worst poo poo you can burn in a boiler.

orange juche fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Feb 25, 2023

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

That's a ship even I wouldn't touch.

Please do, though.

Jimmy Smuts
Aug 8, 2000

I'm kind of glad the Kuz is still sailing & rollin' coal, as it's sucking up tons of resources that could be used against Ukraine.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

I submit my Price is Right-style $1 bid that the Kuz is actually on fire right now or else will certainly be on fire before anyone else’s estimate

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

If you don't check it then it's perpetually on fire in all of our hearts

Oscar Wilde Bunch
Jun 12, 2012

Grimey Drawer

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

That's a ship even I wouldn't touch.

I wonder if at this point its primary purpose is to just be a long term graft fountain. Lots of dacha money to be siphoned off the ship in forever repairs.

Didn’t India/China buy/inherit some of her sisters? Did they do extensive modernization to them?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Last time I saw the Kuznetsov was that video of a jet loving up its landing and pulling away with a hard cobra maneuver. I'm surprised it didn't set the deck on fire.

tiaz
Jul 1, 2004

PICK UP THAT PRESENT.


Zelensky's Zealots

Oscar Wilde Bunch posted:

I wonder if at this point its primary purpose is to just be a long term graft fountain. Lots of dacha money to be siphoned off the ship in forever repairs.

Didn’t India/China buy/inherit some of her sisters? Did they do extensive modernization to them?

the Varyag, ostensibly about to become a casino before it became the Liaoning instead?
Supposedly yes, but I have no idea if that modernization did anything beyond what un-grafted-to-hell maintenance would've done to the Kuznetsov.

Nuclear Tourist
Apr 7, 2005

Jimmy Smuts posted:

I'm kind of glad the Kuz is still sailing & rollin' coal, as it's sucking up tons of resources that could be used against Ukraine.

At this point I am honestly amazed at the effort the Russian Navy is taking in keeping that floating environmental disaster operating come hell or high water, can't imagine it's cheap.

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~

tiaz posted:

I guess I had a free article. I don't know if docdroid sucks or not but I don't have a ready better way to get it to all of you - https://docdro.id/0BYH8HS also NB the pdf renderer split some of the images across multiple pages. but the content's all there

I also came here from GBS, I'll do my best but do let me know if I get out over my skis here.

Yo thanks for this

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Oscar Wilde Bunch posted:

Didn’t India/China buy/inherit some of her sisters? Did they do extensive modernization to them?

China bought her sister Varyag and turned that ship into a functional carrier.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Taerkar posted:

If you don't check it then it's perpetually on fire in all of our hearts

Schroedinger’s kuz

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Oscar Wilde Bunch posted:

Didn’t India/China buy/inherit some of her sisters? Did they do extensive modernization to them?

China turned her sister, Varyag into a functional carrier, Liaoning, and India bought an absolutely clapped-out Kyiv class aircraft carrier, ex-Baku, now INS Vikramditya (Surprise surprise, the Russian refit of the ship to sell it to India took 3x the initial budget, due to the Russian shipyard blackmailing the Indian officer who was coordinating the sale and refit)

Since Varyag never actually was ever under power (construction of Varyag was abandoned at ~89% by the Soviet military, and then she was purchased by China from Ukraine), the Chinese technically didn't have to worry about lovely Soviet maintenance wrecking the engines, and were able to rework everything onboard the ship.

China had a very intense interest in getting a working aircraft carrier, and based on Liaoning actually having deployed successfully a couple times now, they did quite a good job finishing it out and fixing the lovely workmanship of the Soviet builders.

orange juche fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Feb 25, 2023

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Oscar Wilde Bunch posted:

I wonder if at this point its primary purpose is to just be a long term graft fountain. Lots of dacha money to be siphoned off the ship in forever repairs.

Didn’t India/China buy/inherit some of her sisters? Did they do extensive modernization to them?

India bought an old Kiev class. China bought a couple of Kievs and turned them into tourist attractions and they also bought a half complete Kunetzsov class and made another based on it on their own.

Tomn
Aug 23, 2007

And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands

orange juche posted:

China had a very intense interest in getting a working aircraft carrier, and based on Liaoning actually having deployed successfully a couple times now, they did a good job finishing it out and fixing the lovely workmanship of the Soviet builders.

I'd be very interested to read the account of a Chinese shipbuilder complaining about said lovely workmanship while working on the boat.

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orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Tomn posted:

I'd be very interested to read the account of a Chinese shipbuilder complaining about said lovely workmanship while working on the boat.

It would probably be a nonstop string of swearing in Chinese.

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