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Hey so I'm getting conflicting messaging, what's the trick to getting the admins to like and listen to you ? Do I have to pretend to be a super hardcore holodomor denier and tankie brigader or can I get away with just some lighter ethnic cleansing rhetoric and still be in their good books? Just trying to figure out the vibe so I don't accidentally express sympathy for the victims of genocide or warcrimes or anything gauche like that Fucken shameful leadership, hiding behind "just following orders, that's beyond my pay grade!!" cop mods (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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steinrokkan posted:But it's not the designated forums funny zone. correction: still has, it's open https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4004281 and we're being told to post in that subforum Terminally Bored fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Feb 25, 2023 |
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boofhead posted:Hey so I'm getting conflicting messaging, what's the trick to getting the admins to like and listen to you ? Do I have to pretend to be a super hardcore holodomor denier and tankie brigader or can I get away with just some lighter ethnic cleansing rhetoric and still be in their good books? Just trying to figure out the vibe so I don't accidentally express sympathy for the victims of genocide or warcrimes or anything gauche like that Yeah no one here is aggro enough to have their opinions matter. Evidently the way you get your opinion to count is to throw a temper tantrum over the things you've imagined are happening until the admins shut down what you're complaining about, and where you were throwing a temper tantrum and do nothing as you move to another spot and start all over again. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Feb 25, 2023 10:18
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Well we wouldn't want to upset the holocaust deniers, please have the maturity to consider all views the way you'd like yours to be considered. I think banning discussion of the war will solve all of the problems and is a perfectly reasonable thing to do to keep a handful of dedicated mentally ill concern trolls from being unduly upset. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Feb 25, 2023 10:22
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Additionally, D&D loving sucks.
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This is a very good thread and cinci’s mod work has to be appreciated. However, the GBS thread is succinctly different, serves a different purpose and is aimed at a different crowd and conversation style. Suggesting to go to CSPAM for funny posting, considering the history, is a dick move. Closing the thread and leaving a closed discussion thread for it is aggressive. No one is going to be PM-ing mods with their feedback. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Feb 25, 2023 10:26
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Hey, since there is no other way to do this: Can you mods ask in your very special forum to clarify the SA editorial position regarding genocide denial in general and denial of the Holodomor specifically? Denying it is a criminal offence where I live (§ 130 StGB) for reasons that are hopefully obvious. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Antigravitas posted:Hey, since there is no other way to do this: Ah, yes, well for starters YOU get a probe for being a downer. Hth (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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SA becoming a gross safe space for genocide deniers and cheerleaders has been pretty sad to see. I'd say the vast majority of people here are cool, but there's clearly some weird levels of coddling and protection of tankies at the highest level. Cheering on the defense of a country facing an imperialist land grab and genocide gets you shut down, but "jokes" supporting genocide have a well protected safe space to fester. Over the decades I've been happy to see SA root out the worst in its community and generally be on the right side of history, eventually. We got rid of pedos, we got rid of transphobes, we even kinda got rid of nazis. Having SA as a safe space for the worst red-brown tankies and putin's useful idiots reflectly extremely poorly on the admins and community. Eventually good posters will leave and all the site will be left with are a bunch of stalin simps. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Baronjutter posted:SA becoming a gross safe space for genocide deniers and cheerleaders has been pretty sad to see. I'd say the vast majority of people here are cool, but there's clearly some weird levels of coddling and protection of tankies at the highest level. Cheering on the defense of a country facing an imperialist land grab and genocide gets you shut down, but "jokes" supporting genocide have a well protected safe space to fester. Just maybe, the Stalin simps and Holodomor deniers might not get their wish this time around and have to see Stronk Russia get its face rubbed into the ground by the guys they considered "Little Russians" and stupid country cousins of theirs. And god knows, they deserve it for the innumerable documented and undocumented crimes they've conducted on the territory of Ukraine this year. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Baronjutter posted:SA becoming a gross safe space for genocide deniers and cheerleaders has been pretty sad to see. I'd say the vast majority of people here are cool, but there's clearly some weird levels of coddling and protection of tankies at the highest level. Cheering on the defense of a country facing an imperialist land grab and genocide gets you shut down, but "jokes" supporting genocide have a well protected safe space to fester. Truth https://twitter.com/EMoore2323/status/1629176182708076544 https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1629257824013369348
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I wouldn't want to PM any mods because talking to them in public gets your banned for 10(!) hours. I would have thought a PM would be even worse. I always thought the 2 threads were quite different until they got the same mods doing both and then one gets shutdown. Huh. So in a more related to the thread question. Why are Ukrainian vehicle camo a single olive grab and not multiple colours? I've also noticed a distinct lack of painting anything white in winter. Why is that? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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ukraine gonna 2 for 2 eurovision with those dancing bags https://twitter.com/frontlinekit/status/1617465239511138305?s=20
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The former PM of Malaysia offers a stunningly bad take on the war. Tl,Dr: NATO forced poor Russia to do this. https://twitter.com/chedetofficial/status/1628981880677863425 If there are any Malaysian goons around, could you shed light on sentiments regarding Russia, especially before and after the shootdown of MH 117? It feels like it should be pretty hard to let that kind of thing slide.
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jaete posted:Hm, wouldn't a more accurate translitteration be Dostoyevski? Similar to how it is in Finnish (where "je" = english "ye" more or less, "jo" = "yo" (short o) and so on: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fjodor_Dostojevski) accurate by which language and orthographic system? there is no right way to transliterate, just a series of compromises. for example, in czech and slovak, vowel length is phonemic, but east slavic doesn't have vowel length (dropped very early on in the divergence of slavic languages), so none of our names are transliterated well into cyrillic or vice versa.
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appropriatemetaphor posted:ukraine gonna 2 for 2 eurovision with those dancing bags She should be reported for bloodlust.
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:The former PM of Malaysia offers a stunningly bad take on the war. Tl,Dr: NATO forced poor Russia to do this. He's love his conspriacy theories, including hosting events on 9/11 and with MH17 truthers. He appeared in a documentary made by Bonanza Media, set up by an MH17 truther and a former RT journalist, which we discovered had ties to the GRU, so he's either a useful idiot or a willing participant in disinformation.
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Starting to think rejecting the PM I got a couple weeks ago asking if I wanted to mod D&D was the correct move. gently caress all the genocide denying Russia worshipping irony-poisoned tankie morons trying to take control of the left, within these forums and outside of them. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Youth Decay posted:Starting to think rejecting the PM I got a couple weeks ago asking if I wanted to mod D&D was the correct move. The thread complaining about the shut down thread... just got shut down. "The beatings will continue until morale improves."
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Comstar posted:So in a more related to the thread question. Why are Ukrainian vehicle camo a single olive grab and not multiple colours? I've also noticed a distinct lack of painting anything white in winter. Why is that? Minor reason, olive is the ideal camo for the area, where you're dealing with mostly flat grasslands and mud plains. The major reason why they don't is despite being supplied heavily by the west, most of Ukraine's arsenals is mostly made up of soviet era equipment and vehicles, same as the Russian. Having multiple units decks out in various different camos makes it that much harder to distinguish friend from foe. This is why you'll see many of Ukrainian's infantry and vehicles forgo camo all together and covering themselves from head to toe in bright yellow/blue reflecting tape. On top this you also have to contend with drones, thermal sights, and other long range electronic observation equipment which haven't quite render camo worthless, but it has definitely lessened it importance in the overall scope of things. In this war, staying out of sight via hard cover like buildings and covered trenches has become more important than staying hidden in plain sight via camo.
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so this was the anniversary offensive? get a thread closed in gbs? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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If you think about it it's Putin's greatest victory up until now.
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Pajser posted:so this was the anniversary offensive? get a thread closed in gbs? Will at least we know who the ten million American volunteers of Wagner are Mods and admins
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Pajser posted:so this was the anniversary offensive? get a thread closed in gbs? SA mods and admins gaining more ground on the symbolic date than putin’s chef ever could (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Pajser posted:so this was the anniversary offensive? get a thread closed in gbs? They have to take their 'victories' where they can find them. Can't get any besides slowly capturing small villages at ruinous cost in equipment and lives, so there's that. By comparison getting a thread closed, where the pathetic army of Russia was mocked and made fun of for being unable to into modern army tactics, is on par with any victory Prince Bagration or General Rokossovsky managed to eke out for the Russian Motherland. 
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You all are a loving embarrassment, and it's posting like this that gets threads closed. No one gives a loving poo poo about your opinion about GBS or C-SPAM here, in D&D. gently caress off. I'm closing this thread until someone with buttons reopens it.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:You all are loving embarrassment, and it's posting like this that gets threads closed. No one gives a loving poo poo about your opinion about GBS or C-SPAM here, in D&D. gently caress off. I'm closing this thread until an IK or an admin reopens it. Sorry Cinci I give a poo poo.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:You all are a loving embarrassment, and it's posting like this that gets threads closed. No one gives a loving poo poo about your opinion about GBS or C-SPAM here, in D&D. gently caress off. I'm closing this thread until someone with buttons reopens it. That's fine, I'll leave it closed for a while today. I'm not sure how I can make it clearer that this is a thread for discussing the war in Ukraine, and not a thread for complaining about the GBS thread being closed or about how the CSPAM thread is the headquarters of the red-brown alliance that is destroying SA. Take those complaints to an admin via PM or the feedback forum. This is D&D, we don't have any say on what goes on in GBS or CSPAM so getting mad in this thread does nothing, it only shits it up. I get that people are upset about the GBS thread being closed, but you're making GBS threads up a completely unrelated space. Venting your frustration here does nothing but ruin another Ukraine thread. edit: fatherboxx, please feel free to reopen the thread when you're around or I'll do so a bit later today. Fritz the Horse fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Feb 25, 2023 |
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Hello people, please behave and, again, don't use this thread to vent about forums administration. Dont fish for probations either.
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https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1629496442137243648 Are these tiny gains we're seeing the result of the formations mobilised last year, or are they yet to be deployed?
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My understanding is that they mostly refilled previously deployed formations, modulo Wagner sacrificial convict formations (which seems distinct from veteran ones).
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Enjoy posted:https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1629496442137243648 My understanding is that this is it. The mobilisation was useful for establishing defensive lines and preventing another Kharkiv collapse, but will not be as helpful in an offensive setting. I'm not sure what the Russian plans are for offensives in the near future, they seem to be draining the remainder of their manpower and equipment for quite insubstantial gains, again. A thousand casualties per day does not seem sustainable for several months, and despite those losses, I'm not entirely sure they're even going to get Bakhmut at this rate.
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You see Russia has a million+ potential which means losing a bunch of men doesn't matter because material loss is a myth and made up. Ignore how all of the recent attacks have coincided with losses of tanks and other badly needed mechanical vehicles that will be very difficult to replace and will effectively remove any ability to take advantage of a hypothetical breakthrough in Ukrainian lines in the future.
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I've understood Russia has sustained monstrous casualty rates for comparatively minor gain, and rather than taking steps to mitigate, they rather seem to double down on the same failing tactics for the long haul, ostensively to "wear the Ukrainian military down". I'm doubtful as to whether that will work, but what do I know. Regardless, I find it hard to see how a country could find long term domestic support for continuouly pouring its own into the forever war, unless it's actually only domestic undesirables who are sent off and everyone else thinks their not being around anymore is actually super great. So, I guess my question is, is this actually a giant cleansing operation of domestic undesirables and people are actively cheering it on, or are these losses in fact no big deal for the russian everyman yet, or is it in fact having a huge impact on russian lives and families and they're presently creating a giant pressure cooker? I guess my issue is that I find it hard to make sense of all the angles and reporting. Karate Bastard fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Feb 25, 2023 |
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If russia decides to just switch to a static defence along the whole frontline i have to wonder how long they would last. It's not WW1 and piling on barely trained troops lacking a decreasing pool of weapons/ammo/gear can only take you so far. As for China propping up their logistics i have absolutely no idea atm. 
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Karate Bastard posted:So, I guess my question is, is this actually a giant cleansing operation of domestic undesirables and people are actively cheering it on, or are these losses in fact no big deal for the russian everyman yet, or is it in fact having a huge impact on russian lives and families and they're presently creating a giant pressure cooker? Russia lost about 1 million people to COVID and large parts of population are still convinced that the disease was not real At most there are 100-150k dead+wounded at this moment, so it is not enough to make a dent in public opinion or in demographics yet You are right that large parts of country dont consider prisoners people, so the darwinistic rhetoric of Prigozhin of "better them than YOUR sons and brothers" hits something (as does the recruitment from economically depressed regions, especially with ethnic minority population). But the stream of convict suicide squads is dwindling, thanks to prison networks telling about sad state of things in storm troops, so the mobilized divisions need to be used more and more.
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Enjoy posted:Are these tiny gains we're seeing the result of the formations mobilised last year, or are they yet to be deployed? However, doing it this way means that the troops being sent to the front by Russia will again be badly trained. Ukraine doesn't have this problem as much, because they have fully mobilized. This means that they are constantly mobilizing and training additional manpower. This gives much better chances of improving over time.
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Reading through the ISW report, there was a good reference to this Der Spiegel article regarding why Blinken voiced explicit concern for Chinese lethal support.quote:According to that information, the Russian military is engaged in negotiations with Chinese drone manufacturer Xi'an Bingo Intelligent Aviation Technology over the mass production of kamikaze drones for Russia... Lastly, NYTimes's The Daily episode from yesterday features three high quality interviews with a Ukrainian widow, soldier, and paramedic (  depictions of violence).
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fatherboxx posted:Russia lost about 1 million people to COVID and large parts of population are still convinced that the disease was not real Where they at for total number of people who fled the country? Bet they hit a million plus and I think that's going to hit hard especially when a lot of them are a braindrain deal. Most people gotta know a friend or associate who skipped town
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