Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:

also Mara and Shaxx did not have sex

GruntyThrst posted:

You know between this and having Best Character Calus on their side maybe I should cheer team Witness

quote:

As the old self falls away there will be only suffering.

I.II
None can sustain in the face absolution, yet evolution demands sacrifice.

I.III
Pain must be accepted as the new constant, or pain will be the all of you.

I.IV
As the white noise of your screams drowns the whispers, you will feel alone. You are alone.

I.V
Is this eternity or oblivion?

I.VI
You will see yourself—outside yourself—and you will long to embrace this new evolution—a beacon on the far end of lost hope.

I.VII
Yet, you will know—through the pain, through the fear—there is no longer a you that was, only what comes next, and all the pain to follow.

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

drat straight

This game is T for Teen, not M for Mature

Mazerunner posted:

The Witness hates mortality and existing on the material plane, it thinks that's the cause of suffering, and it wants all its followers to become Ascendent and immortal, shuck their mortal bodies and live on ever higher and more fundamental planes of existence, while simultaneously destroying everything that doesn't- so that it can 'eat' their information and fold it into itself, to eventually become a singularity, which is also 'nothing'.

But anyway, that belief that living as bodiless transcendent beings forever is infinitely better than living mortal lives? That's the exact same thing the Witness believes.

Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:

also Mara and Shaxx did not have sex that’s a cringe Redditor interpretation of the lore card. next you’re gonna say Rasputin shot the Traveler or ask who the strongest Guardian is lol

quote:

Mara stared at the Wall of Wishes. She had no more bargains to make. Her plans were in motion.

There was nothing left but the wait.

She pulled a sidearm from a hidden holster and cracked a dozen rounds into the Wall.

The cosmic balance shifted. Somewhere in the Dreaming City, Riven heard the Queen's wish and a thousand shrieking tears in reality cut through the space in front of her.

Lord Shaxx suddenly blocked Mara's view of the Wall.

"—YES, AND WE'D ALL BE DEAD!" He was screaming at no one, with a mug of caffeine in his fist.

He started, almost spilling his coffee. "Where are we?"

Mara slapped the mug out of his hand. It shattered on the floor. She shoved a weathered book in his face. "I told you there would come a time when I collect for the Reef Wars. Read this. Out loud."

"No one tells me what to do," he said, grabbing the book and incinerating it in a bolt of Striker lightning. "I can recite The Tempest by heart." And he did. Mara sat and listened. They stayed for a long time.

The helmet stayed on.

A Buffer Gay Dude posted:

A Buffer Gay Dude posted:

Step back and thing how absolutely insane it is that the game can put massive amounts of violence in from of you at all times but has to carefully couch any reference at all to sexuality.

A Buffer Gay Dude posted:

Step back and thing how absolutely insane it is that the game can put massive amounts of violence in from of you at all times but has to carefully couch any reference at all to sexuality.

Walked posted:

What am I doing wrong?

The REAL Goobusters posted:

The helmet stays on

Lib and let die posted:

Whedon-pilled

FlapYoJacks posted:

She succeeded in her goal.

Mazerunner posted:

sort of, kind of, not really

A Buffer Gay Dude posted:

What in the world lol

Lib and let die posted:

MCU poo poo is incredibly "sex doesn't even exist" as well

Bungie of course writes better dialog than Whedon, I wasn't implying that just happened.

Kith posted:

also there's a big-rear end difference between discussing romance or intimacy between characters and talking about a character's tits, hth

Kith posted:

Ibram Gaunt posted:

Is there a particular reason why Dungeons don't have matchmaking? I know with some skill and loadout optimization you can solo them but it seems odd that they're premade only.

Oxyclean posted:

Well Reckoning had a hard fail state, so that could get kind of frustrating. (I can't remember if you lost your currency on a failed run.)

Because they're treated as mini-raids - they have a small degree of like, puzzle mechanics and could conceivably be quite frustrating to do with the lowest common denominator player. Some of them very much benefit from voice communication.

I also just don't think it's a good fit for matchmaking. I found it a bit arduous carrying some friends through spire for their first time - but they were on comms with me and long time players. It was still a lot of fun, but it was a lot of work. Obviously I could just avoid matchmaking for a Spire if I don't want to carry noobs through, but i feel like it's going to be an incredibly rough experience when 3 randos with no idea get stuck together.

The in-game LFG coming at the end of the year should go a long way to smoothing this over - once that's around, I think a small speed bump of actually having to commit to a manual group is a good filter for player will/expectations. In the meantime, the LFG on bungie's website is an option if you dont wanna get goons from overchill to help you.\

sure okay posted:

Put a warning up on the MM screen with big scary letters if Bungie cares that much

Let me wade in the mud if I want. If I get bad teammates I'll just orbit and try again. Don't selectively keep this feature off that's patronizing.

sure okay posted:

Put a warning up on the MM screen with big scary letters if Bungie cares that much

Let me wade in the mud if I want. If I get bad teammates I'll just orbit and try again. Don't selectively keep this feature off that's patronizing.

Oxyclean posted:

I think without a little bit of friction, matchmaking players would give themselves a much worse experience and would probably just complain rather then find friends/use comms/etc.

Oxyclean posted:

Again, the point is the LFG system (which already exists, but is stupidly out of game till Season 23) is supposed to cover these sorts of things. If you're apathetic enough to be willing to run with whoever, then slapping up an LFG post on bungie.net that says "Spire No Mic" will probably get you players real quick. The LFG tool on the website isn't half bad because there's a straight up "send invite" button that will attempt to invite signsup in game - no additional typing or copy-pasting needed on your part.

I think without a little bit of friction, matchmaking players would give themselves a much worse experience and would probably just complain rather then find friends/use comms/etc.

Oxyclean posted:

Again, the point is the LFG system (which already exists, but is stupidly out of game till Season 23) is supposed to cover these sorts of things. If you're apathetic enough to be willing to run with whoever, then slapping up an LFG post on bungie.net that says "Spire No Mic" will probably get you players real quick. The LFG tool on the website isn't half bad because there's a straight up "send invite" button that will attempt to invite signsup in game - no additional typing or copy-pasting needed on your part.

I think without a little bit of friction, matchmaking players would give themselves a much worse experience and would probably just complain rather then find friends/use comms/etc.

Archonex posted:

Counterpoint to people against a LFG: Making people jump through hoops to even begin the process to do stuff that should have been in the basic game and is a long time industry standard as a whole is dumb and bad. Just as people who think making it more tedious to find a group will somehow counteract idiots being idiots by having to tab out and make a group on a website instead of just putting naming functionality into their LFG in game party app are dumb and bad.

What really happens is that people who don't want to deal with the bullshit of fiddling around on a website to do stuff that takes them out of the game itself will just not bother to do the content, creating a closed pool of players who are too blinkered to realize that a solid chunk of the playerbase doesn't want to bother to deal with it unless they have friends to pressure them into it. The idiots that knowingly screw up raids and the like will blithely cruise along regardless of what others think and gently caress up your raid groups regardless.

This is literally online game design 100 stuff.


Bungie should have told the whiners to go blow space sand when they complained and then added LFG to everything as punishment for being stupid. And I do mean everything, even the open world planet content. Just full on: The beatings will continue until players learn to socialize.