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I like to think that doctor crusher was more pissed off at data for pushing her off the boat in generations than at worf for melting her face in that episode
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I thought the Silent Enemy aliens looked super cool/interesting/pretty scary honestly. Watching Enterprise for first time now and I do wish they were able to do what someone posted earlier that the writers wanted, to be on earth for first season as you would think any prequel series would be, but that the studio wanted them to do same old poo poo again and be exploring in the Enterprise. This rush into space without establishing the show/characters/why it's a prequel led to the kind of hollow feeling Xindi 'Big Bad' (and Mr. Hologram Man lord of lizards or whatever) as a new villain like The Dominion which they 'technically' avoided copying by saying these 5 (or 6?) distinct races somehow advanced together on the same planet (respek to the gigantic ant race that held it down). Also, does anyone else feel like a lot of the Season 3 time stuff doesn't make sense in any sort of fictional standard time travel-y way? Like when Archer pushes T'Pol out of the way of the temporal wave anomaly which gives him outside-of-time nanobrainworms so that he can't form new memories. The way it all went down with Archer climatically triggering the whatever blast that will kill all the nanomachines, I guess ending that timeline, and waking up in sickbay like it never happened, was a little what the gently caress moment; essentially because they said "if we get rid of them and Archer can be captain again for those 6 months to find the Xindi weapon, everything will be alright!"
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knox posted:
"Twilight" is both a really good episode and a really dumb episode and that's basically the Enterprise experience in a nutshell.
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knox posted:I thought the Silent Enemy aliens looked super cool/interesting/pretty scary honestly. Watching Enterprise for first time now and I do wish they were able to do what someone posted earlier that the writers wanted, to be on earth for first season as you would think any prequel series would be, but that the studio wanted them to do same old poo poo again and be exploring in the Enterprise. This rush into space without establishing the show/characters/why it's a prequel led to the kind of hollow feeling Xindi 'Big Bad' (and Mr. Hologram Man lord of lizards or whatever) as a new villain like The Dominion which they 'technically' avoided copying by saying these 5 (or 6?) distinct races somehow advanced together on the same planet (respek to the gigantic ant race that held it down). a lot of enterprise doesn't make sense in exactly the same way. that could be because there's simply not a lot of it, but it's pretty clear they were running on fumes idea-wise
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Y'all motherfuckers think that Spock really boned that Romulan Commander in The Enterprise Incident?
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It somehow never occurred to me that only half of the main DS9 cast was in Starfleet (well aside from Worf tipping the scales later on). That’s wild for a Star Trek show and another reason why Voyager’s whole “mixed crew” concept feels so half baked.
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Feb 26, 2023 06:14
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In the next episode of Picard Woof should be in the background eating a copy of Lord of the Rings so he can be shown to have been eating good books lately
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SlothfulCobra posted:I'm pretty sure Worf ate a guy. This has such a powerful "Brick killed a guy" vibe that you can easily see Riker or Geordi saying it while everyone is chilling at the conference table the next morning.
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Feb 26, 2023 06:22
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SlothfulCobra posted:I'm pretty sure Worf ate a guy. Riker: Worf, I've been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative close by. Lay low for a while, because you're probably wanted for murder.
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It's important that Galaxy class ships don't separate the saucer for battle because it makes the ship look dumb. The families on the ship should understand and accept this.
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Yeah, there was a fuckup and miscommunication in design and saucer sep didn't actually get designed into the galaxy class until after the ship layout was basically complete, so it had to be kinda retro-fitted into the look. What Probert thought would happen would be that a boomerang-shaped part of the saucer would separate and it would go fight and the camera would mostly be on it, and the hull would retain a lot of the saucer and so be balanced.
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Tbf, the boomerang separation probably would have looked even worse
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Minidust posted:It somehow never occurred to me that only half of the main DS9 cast was in Starfleet (well aside from Worf tipping the scales later on). That’s wild for a Star Trek show and another reason why Voyager’s whole “mixed crew” concept feels so half baked. Thats why the whole root beer speech quark has with garak is so good, its two nonfederation dudes complaining about Disney taking over the galaxy
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We've seen old Scotty and young Geordie. Now we just need a story where it's the reverse.
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Minidust posted:It somehow never occurred to me that only half of the main DS9 cast was in Starfleet (well aside from Worf tipping the scales later on). That’s wild for a Star Trek show and another reason why Voyager’s whole “mixed crew” concept feels so half baked. It's not super obvious because it's a concept that's actually well-written and well-integrated into the show, so the writers never feel the need to beat you over the head with episodes focusing specifically on crew division. There were plenty of little things that didn't totally make sense (like Odo constantly getting away with doing a fascism), but it still worked so much better than just totally ignoring those differences and turning everyone into the same bland Starfleet stereotype. It also probably helped that the actual Starfleet characters misfits and oddities in their own ways.
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I miss Trek people hanging out at the bar. Quark's was the best version of that. They had games, shady deals, and morn! Picard is the worst version where bars are cyberpunk dives where someone is always getting ambushed
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Khanstant posted:Picard is the worst version where bars are cyberpunk dives where someone is always getting ambushed it's fun when it happens in star trek v!
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Der Kyhe posted:Its pretty much given by now that Star Trek Online is canon, unless it isn't. the novel verse, the STO universe, and the 'main' timeline are all separate timelines. And the Novel Universe literally sacrificed itself to save the multiverse from the Devidians.
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Feb 26, 2023 18:54
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Everything I read that I keep thinking it is a whole empire of dudes all named David, voiced by Keith David. I choose to believe that is the truth because gently caress if I will ever read that poo poo.
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It’s very weird to me that Keith David hasn’t done Star Trek yet.
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jeeves posted:Everything I read that I keep thinking it is a whole empire of dudes all named David, voiced by Keith David. You remember the Drej from Titan AE? They're knockoff Devidians.
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Der Kyhe posted:Its pretty much given by now that Star Trek Online is canon, unless it isn't. STO is very much not canon, it has all sorts of absolutely absurd things and its timeline is extremely incompatible with Picard. It's more that the stuff people are fond of will be mined out, cleaned up, and reinserted into main canon. But so far that's only been very few things. It's basically what Star Wars did with the old EU and the new. The good poo poo got pulled back in, tweaked and polished, the nicer ships re-canonised, characters like Thrawn re-established, etc. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Feb 26, 2023 |
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Khanstant posted:I miss Trek people hanging out at the bar. Quark's was the best version of that. They had games, shady deals, and morn! thats not true, sometimes they get abandoned there forever because the script writers forgot about them too
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MikeJF posted:It's basically what Star Wars did with the old EU and the new. The good poo poo got pulled back in, tweaked and polished, the nicer ships re-canonised, characters like Thrawn re-established, etc. I like how they took Kyle Katarn from the first Dark Forces game, went back in time to ensure he did not become a lame Jedi, and turned him into Andor instead.
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Paper Lion posted:thats not true, sometimes they get abandoned there forever because the script writers forgot about them too Hey now, that's implying all the characters they abandoned were forgotten and that is just not true! Sometimes they were just bored with them, and others they obviously disliked.
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wesleywillis posted:Y'all motherfuckers think that Spock really boned that Romulan Commander in The Enterprise Incident? the question is, gentlemen, have we pon too farr or have we not pon farr enough
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Kesper North posted:the question is, gentlemen, have we pon too farr or have we not pon farr enough Vulcans conveniently forgetting for several decades to mention their allies that Romulans are actually their cousins, Spock is working fast on this one.
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"Blood Oath" on DS9 was a pretty okay episode. I don't care for Klingon stuff too much but I did like Jazdia Dax being reluctant to carry out a vengeance kill. The assault on the Albino's commune had the tone of a cheesy 80's action film which made it's context even weirder. Didn't love it but it was a far cry better than the TNG episode from that week: "Journey's End". I like the idea of Wesley realizing he didn't want to be part of Starfleet but calling back to the Traveler and Wesley being a special boy is the worst way to end his arc. There was potential with Wesley. For all the hate his character gets, towards the end he got halfway likable, especially with the Starfleet trial episode. There's also that really dumb like from Dr Crusher at the end– something like "You better bundle up; it might get cold in those higher dimensions!" Okay, thanks. Also the native stereotypes were really bad.
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The Traveler groomed Wesley
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I always loved Blood Oath because I am a weepy sucker for the "old guys kicking rear end One Last Time" trope and using the OG Klingons from TOS to do it just ruins me "How did you get in here?" "I am Koloth." "That doesn't answer my question." "Yes. It. Does."
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A Vulcan who's super into Japan.
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Tighclops posted:I always loved Blood Oath because I am a weepy sucker for the "old guys kicking rear end One Last Time" trope and using the OG Klingons from TOS to do it just ruins me They're reprising a classic, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFhpctuUwb4
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DoubleCakes posted:"Blood Oath" on DS9 was a pretty okay episode. I don't care for Klingon stuff too much but I did like Jazdia Dax being reluctant to carry out a vengeance kill. The assault on the Albino's commune had the tone of a cheesy 80's action film which made it's context even weirder. Didn't love it but it was a far cry better than the TNG episode from that week: "Journey's End". I have to go now, my dimension needs me
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Goddamn Worf doesn't even know Alexanders birthday in the episode where Alexander comes to live with him.
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Someone needs to create a DS9 fangame where Quark's bar is the hubworld.
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Prurient Squid posted:Someone needs to create a DS9 fangame where Quark's bar is the hubworld. Ooh, just make a Quark's manager game where you run the bar, order root beer and try to shift old Kanar, run rigged Dabo games and holosuites, and try not to get murdered by season 1 Rom or caught by Odo.
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davidspackage posted:old Kanar I can only imagine the settling that happens in an old jug of kanar. The bottom several centimeters would just be tarlike consistency. And some Cardassians seek that poo poo out preferentially, call it "kanar treacle" and chew it
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Prurient Squid posted:Someone needs to create a DS9 fangame where Quark's bar is the hubworld. Gul Dukat in the Temple with the Pah'Wraith Energy
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Did they ever do a DS9 or ENT videogame? I recall many tos, tng, voy ones as well as the more general purpose star trek universe games, but I can't think of any for DS9 or ENT, which, doesn't entirely surprise me.
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