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Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


CommieGIR posted:

He can rightly get hosed.

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Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar
Has he started complaining about being "cancelled" by the woke media yet?

Spoggerific
May 28, 2009
I wonder how many dilberitos there are still out there, hidden deep in some hoarder's freezer. I'd eat one in his honor if I could get my hands on one.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

mlmp08 posted:

Linguistic Kill Shot

Waste of a perfectly good song title, this.

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

Zamujasa posted:

Has he started complaining about being "cancelled" by the woke media yet?

I think he's been squawking about being cancelled for years now because how *dare* a white man be denied wild amounts of success for making a stale, lovely comic.

mlmp08 posted:

Linguistic Kill Shot

:drat:

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

I don’t know if this was posted here or not. It’s not sufficient to read a summary of what he said, or to read an article that has one or two quotes.

You simply have to watch this.

https://twitter.com/LyfeIzWeerd/status/1628661410678079491?s=20

armpit_enjoyer
Jan 25, 2023

my god. it's full of posts

Zamujasa posted:

Has he started complaining about being "cancelled" by the woke media yet?

He went far above and beyond that, unfortunately. :nms: because it's some Extremely Bleak poo poo regarding his late son.

Basically: he made a very stupid tweet about how if your son gets hooked on drugs, it's "better to kill him than watch him become a mass shooter". He then seemingly admitted to watching his son OD and die rather than render aid? I'd post a link but I don't want it to embed, because it's genuinely upsetting.

Scott Adams stopped being a "ha ha funny right wing crank" a long time ago. He's in a much, much darker place now.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Man he's gonna be pissed when he finds out

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


armpit_enjoyer posted:

He went far above and beyond that, unfortunately. :nms: because it's some Extremely Bleak poo poo regarding his late son.

Basically: he made a very stupid tweet about how if your son gets hooked on drugs, it's "better to kill him than watch him become a mass shooter". He then seemingly admitted to watching his son OD and die rather than render aid? I'd post a link but I don't want it to embed, because it's genuinely upsetting.

Scott Adams stopped being a "ha ha funny right wing crank" a long time ago. He's in a much, much darker place now.

Yeah I wanna say maybe just after 2016 was the first time I was aware that he was a shitlord.

E: lol https://twitter.com/lukeymcgarry/status/1629604841986334720?s=20

That Works fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Feb 26, 2023

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


DOE now says Chinese lab leak most likely origin of pandemic

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-origin-china-lab-leak-807b7b0a

armpit_enjoyer
Jan 25, 2023

my god. it's full of posts

pmchem posted:

DOE now says Chinese lab leak most likely origin of pandemic

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-origin-china-lab-leak-807b7b0a

Bet you :10bux: this is going to be picked up by all the sensationalist media who will conveniently gloss over this line:

quote:

Four other agencies, along with a national intelligence panel, still judge that it was likely the result of a natural transmission, and two are undecided.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


I couldn’t read the WSJ article but was this the same report from DoE / Lawrence Livermore from 2021?

If so it was basically “lab leak is possible but so is natural spread of new virus”

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


That Works posted:

I couldn’t read the WSJ article but was this the same report from DoE / Lawrence Livermore from 2021?

If so it was basically “lab leak is possible but so is natural spread of new virus”

it's an update to that report as a "result of new intelligence" according to WSJ

"A senior U.S. intelligence official confirmed that the intelligence community had conducted the update, whose existence hasn’t previously been reported. This official added that it was done in light of new intelligence, further study of academic literature and consultation with experts outside government."

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
wow glad the brave WSJ took a break from their usual articles about why selling your children into slavery is actually fiscally forward thinking to publish this

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



Somethings you don't get away with saying "it's likely", you got to prove them

Notahippie
Feb 4, 2003

Kids, it's not cool to have Shane MacGowan teeth
How does that report deal with the paper tracking infection rates within the Wuhan market and finding they track proximity to the live animal storage, with multiple strains coming out of that part of the store within a week? To me that’s the determinative paper on origin, I don’t see how you get that with a lab leak.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

Somethings you don't get away with saying "it's likely", you got to prove them

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Hey look gotta sell the next flavor of brinksmanship somehow.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
I can't wait to hear what other rational, mature individuals have to say about this when we discuss it during intermission at the Shen Yun performance

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Shen Yun gonna act a fourth act about the 5,000 years of history of Christian virology in China.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

MrMojok posted:

I don’t know if this was posted here or not. It’s not sufficient to read a summary of what he said, or to read an article that has one or two quotes.

You simply have to watch this.

https://twitter.com/LyfeIzWeerd/status/1628661410678079491?s=20

The lesson of Dilbert is that, eventually, you always become the Pointy Haired Boss: Corrupt, Bigoted, Fat and spoiled, and ignorant.

Scott Adams is a walking talking object lesson.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Sounds still a case of “extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence”

https://twitter.com/benryanwriter/status/1629856455485472777?s=20

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



CommieGIR posted:

The lesson of Dilbert is that, eventually, you always become the Pointy Haired Boss: Corrupt, Bigoted, Fat and spoiled, and ignorant.

Scott Adams is a walking talking object lesson.

He was always the pointy haired boss. He was a manager at PacBell when he was writing early Dilbert strips.

This is excellent:
https://twitter.com/CritterJams/status/1521171487553724416

slurm
Jul 28, 2022

by Hand Knit
If they prove a lab leak what is an appropriate response? Everyone in the world gets extremely sick several times a year now, they basically murdered the goodness of the world forever.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



I'm not real interested in what the FBI thinks about epidemiology and if the topic isn't related to nuclear weapons the US Department of Energy isn't usually a very well informed source either.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

That Works posted:

Sounds still a case of “extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence”

https://twitter.com/benryanwriter/status/1629856455485472777?s=20

Question:

What does the department of nukes, coal, gas, and smart guy glasses have anything to do with virology, pandemics, and non-nuke related espionage?


edit:

slurm posted:

If they prove a lab leak what is an appropriate response? Everyone in the world gets extremely sick several times a year now, they basically murdered the goodness of the world forever.

Nothing, because what are you gonna do? Turn china, the manufacturer of all of our cheap poo poo into a north korean pariah state instantly nuking world commerce? Glass an entire country the large majority of which had nothing to do with it, let alone the groups of people they effectively enslave? Even if yes to that, glass a country that can do it right back? Reparations? Even with absolute truth the government surely wouldn't admit to it or pay a cent.

I think the best you'd ever get is a "truth and reconcilliation thing" where a bunch of lab dudes get thrown in prison and everyone gives a stern warning about lab safety to the chinese, which will probably be ignored.

Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Feb 26, 2023

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!
I never thought this could happen to me, said the not-leopard in charge of deporting leopards

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/26/us/undocumented-border-officer-cec/index.html

Coasterphreak
May 29, 2007
I like cookies.
If you didn’t figure out Scott Adams was a racist piece of poo poo with his “Elbonian” gimmick thirty years ago I dunno what to tell you.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Coasterphreak posted:

If you didn’t figure out Scott Adams was a racist piece of poo poo with his “Elbonian” gimmick thirty years ago I dunno what to tell you.

True.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

GD_American posted:

I never thought this could happen to me, said the not-leopard in charge of deporting leopards

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/26/us/undocumented-border-officer-cec/index.html



gently caress him especially because the only lesson he learned was "this can happen to the 'good ones' so we should fix it so I don't get hurt."

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


slurm posted:

If they prove a lab leak what is an appropriate response? Everyone in the world gets extremely sick several times a year now, they basically murdered the goodness of the world forever.

Nothing, unless you also can prove it's intentional.

The last person to die of smallpox on the planet was due to an accidental lab leak. The person who was ultimately responsible for the leak later committed suicide. This was in the UK in the late 70s or so, or at least that's the story my ID professor told us back in the day.



Defenestrategy posted:

Question:

What does the department of nukes, coal, gas, and smart guy glasses have anything to do with virology, pandemics, and non-nuke related espionage?


A bit more than most might suspect. A large amount of microbiology outside of the hospital is funded by DoE stuff, they run very prominent research in the "National Labs" (Oak Ridge, PNNL etc) and would have some particular skills to study this kind of thing. It's not the only agency that does this for sure, and thus why there is mixed messaging but it's not too crazy for DoE to actually be part of the study.



e: An actually plausible probable scenario that fits all criteria of evidence that we are currently capable of getting would be this:

1. New virus pops up near Wuhan, gets isolated and sent to their virology lab in the same town. Maybe the cases don't take off much at all and the researchers breathe a sigh of relief.

2. A few days / weeks later a cluster of cases pops up in Wuhan either due to delayed symptoms, delayed reporting, who knows.

3. A couple of researchers at the institute in Wuhan email/text communicate (in a way that humint or sigint can access later) "Hey these new cases aren't from us right?" and someone responds "no not likely".

4. Virus spreads from there.

5. FBI and maybe someone at DoE is privy to some intel where someone in the lab was asking around about the outbreak and it lends some credibility to the possibility of a lab leak but does nothing to substantiate it."


That all fits what we have / know today. To PROVE it was lab leak you would have to have genome sequences of the virus initially taken into the lab and show conclusively that the sequence of all the infections after deposition into the lab were matches to that lab strain (and subsequent mutation from it) vs a separate "wild" virus that would have a different genome sequence and was not represented in the later cases. It would have to be pretty rock solid evidence and without that you can't prove lab leak (unless you have credible testimony of someone in the Wuhan institute that studied the virus).

That Works fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Feb 26, 2023

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May
The NYT has reached its perfect moment
https://twitter.com/DougJBalloon/status/1629509695475179522

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
American politics: it is what it is

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it


The line he left out was "whatever my side is is the right one regardless of any fact to the contrary".

Hannibal Rex
Feb 13, 2010

Did dril just doxx himself?

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
It's been known for years that Chinese labs are both cheap and play fast and loose with safety protocol. There's not much any of us can do about it, because of Capitalism.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
DOE went from 45% confidence to 55% confidence. Everyone involved in that article needs to be kicked in the shins, with a doublekick to anyone actively sharing it with zero references to the "low confidence" requirement. At least it's a sign that we're in boring news time if this is what everyone is throwing through the culture war grinder on a Sunday.

so have this for lols instead:

https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1629954217606627328?t=gdxqAQsf5-FKswBjOms-JQ&s=19

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009
Update from the schade thread:

Admiral Joeslop posted:



Those poor kids.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Not merely content to set fire to $44 billion, Rhodesian Lowtax is supporting Scott Adams.

https://archive.is/fTKlo

quote:


Replying to tweets about the controversy, Musk said it is actually the media that is “racist against whites & Asians.” He offered no criticism of Adams’s comments, in which the cartoonist called Black people a “hate group” and said, “I don’t want to have anything to do with them.”
Musk previously tweeted, then later deleted, a reply to Adams’s tweet about media outlets pulling his comic strip, in which Musk asked, “What exactly are they complaining about?”

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Dang I can’t believe that the guy who’s posting sexualized cartoon mice is making problematic statements about race and racism.

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