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That's a good way to get COVID.
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Feb 25, 2023 15:23
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Wow I haven't seen that picture in years.
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Feb 25, 2023 15:47
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Is that guy going around doing goatse in all the forums?
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Feb 25, 2023 17:04
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regarding the recent news: i am fully prepared for this subject to get thrown into an absolute shitpile of horror, lets go
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Feb 27, 2023 03:38
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I AM GRANDO posted:Is that guy going around doing goatse in all the forums? I think it was tubgirl.
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Feb 27, 2023 04:47
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They spammed tubgirl in D&D threads, specifically, and managed to bump 35 threads until they got probed. They are now permabanned.
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Feb 27, 2023 04:54
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Staluigi posted:regarding the recent news: i am fully prepared for this subject to get thrown into an absolute shitpile of horror, lets go Is there a reasonable explainer of the news?
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Feb 27, 2023 05:14
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Leon Sumbitches posted:Is there a reasonable explainer of the news? in super short after new classified reports were delivered to intelligence committees, it seems the US DoE has concluded that the Covid-19 pandemic "likely" originated from a laboratory leak in wuhan, so, now joining the FBI's position that the pandemic originated from a wuhan virology lab intelligence council and four intel agencies haven't given any indication they want to change their own positions suggesting natural transmission more likely, but all assessment and confidence ratings (usually low, but in the FBI's case, medium i guess) on both sides of the issue work with a shared understanding of virtually no chinese transparency into the origins and pointed nonassistance in viral assessment stepping aside the screaming issue of what this does not say and how much ambiguity remains, this is going to be one of those knock down drag out moments of scads of people who had already concluded years ago it had to be a chinese bioweapon attack or whatever renewing that part where they jump up and go AH HAH and extra super duper conclude it and things get weirder as usual
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Feb 27, 2023 06:58
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Why does the DoE have a voice in this anyways?
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Feb 27, 2023 08:08
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Can we get a link to said news?
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Feb 27, 2023 08:25
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/27/politics/covid-origins-doe-assessment-what-matters/index.htmlkiller_robot posted:Why does the DoE have a voice in this anyways? apparently because they oversee a large network of laboratories, including some of the most advanced biology labs, and so they're integral in the biotech investigation of the characteristics of the virus itself. no idea why it shook out that way but it's apparently been a long running process
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Feb 27, 2023 09:09
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Unless they have new evidence for lab leak it's complete garbage.
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Feb 27, 2023 09:13
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There's no new evidence, the assessment has low confidence rating. Nothingburger.
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Feb 27, 2023 09:25
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Ranter posted:There's no new evidence, the assessment has low confidence rating. Nothingburger. And yet the NYT headlines all skip that part, which is ludicrously irresponsible.
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Feb 27, 2023 12:18
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Seems pretty sensible to me. Xenophobia worked to deflect blame from the Trump administration's disastrous covid failures, and the Biden administration has the same need. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Feb 27, 2023 15:54
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There seems to be a series of influence campaigns designed to undermine relations between the US and China.
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Feb 28, 2023 04:35
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Uglycat posted:There seems to be a series of influence campaigns designed to undermine relations between the US and China. There's two parts. This covid leak stuff is to be able to assign blame and therefore take the heat off neoliberalism's failures to handle the pandemic; failure to reduce unnecessary suffering and death. Deflection. The other stuff you're seeing is about preparing the west for starting a war. This other stuff is less on topic for the covid thread though.
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Feb 28, 2023 04:44
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It's not like the wet market origin absolves China, you could make a reasonable argument about local officials covering up the initial outbreak in 2019 or doing nothing about the wildlife trade when it had already caused SARS and people had been talking about the pandemic risk for years. Not that it really matters to the people trying to call it a Chinese (or Ukrainian) biological weapon.
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Feb 28, 2023 05:01
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Ranter posted:There's two parts. This covid leak stuff is to be able to assign blame and therefore take the heat off neoliberalism's failures to handle the pandemic; failure to reduce unnecessary suffering and death. Deflection. Yes, please try to stay on topic. In addition, if you're offering speculation, please present it as such rather than using the language of certainty.
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Feb 28, 2023 18:41
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Koos Group posted:Yes, please try to stay on topic. In addition, if you're offering speculation, please present it as such rather than using the language of certainty. People offer their opinions as flat declaratives in this forum all the time, because putting "I think" and "in my opinion" all the time is redundant (people know it's my opinion because I'm the one saying it). Is this new rule going to be enforced consistently because that's going to be a lot a lot of probations. Or is it just going to be used occasionally as a reason to punish some opinions? E: If it's the former I don't mind helping out when I have some time I'll go through and report every opinion stated in a declarative form that I can find. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Feb 28, 2023 |
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Feb 28, 2023 18:53
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VitalSigns posted:People offer their opinions as flat declaratives in this forum all the time, because putting "I think" and "in my opinion" all the time is redundant (people know it's my opinion because I'm the one saying it). It's not necessary for opinions, it's necessary for statements of fact. It's also not new, because stating something you suspect or think is possible as though you know it with certainty is misleading, and therefore an issue of good faith.
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Feb 28, 2023 18:59
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Koos Group posted:It's not necessary for opinions, it's necessary for statements of fact. It's also not new, because stating something you suspect or think is possible as though you know it with certainty is misleading, and therefore an issue of good faith. Ok but the post you warned was a statement of opinion: " This covid leak stuff is to be able to assign blame and therefore take the heat off neoliberalism's failures to handle the pandemic; failure to reduce unnecessary suffering and death. Deflection." Is that against the rules or no? It's obviously an opinion to me. But I suppose you could also rule it's a statement of fact. The motivations of the people pushing the lab leak theory are questions of fact that, I suppose, a mind-reader could determine are true or false. I suppose also you could say that whether the handling of the pandemic is a failure and that it was neiliberalism's failure specifically are also opinion or speculation being presented in the "language of certainty" Can we say those things or no? What if we say Trump's pandemic handling was a failure? Allowed or no? It just seems very fuzzy what you're going to decide is an opinion and what is a fact that needs "in my opinion" in front of it to be allowed. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Feb 28, 2023 |
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Feb 28, 2023 19:08
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VitalSigns posted:Ok but the post you warned was a statement of opinion: " This covid leak stuff is to be able to assign blame and therefore take the heat off neoliberalism's failures to handle the pandemic; failure to reduce unnecessary suffering and death. Deflection." Well, it is a statement of fact, yes. The poster is not talking about whether something is good or bad to them, they're talking about whether it objectively happened in a certain way or didn't. VitalSigns posted:I suppose also you could say that whether the handling of the pandemic is a failure and that it was neiliberalism's failure specifically are also opinion or speculation being presented in the "language of certainty" If you say something is a failure, that would be an opinion, and that part isn't what I was referring to. If you'd like to continue to discuss this, please PM me.
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Feb 28, 2023 19:13
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I don't care if this gets me suspended or banned. They shall do so because I speak the truth. They shall do so because they can not control that they themselves are inhabited by the demonic sins of our forefathers within their own genetic and cultural transmission. The fact is Americans hate Asians. They used them for slave labor for nearly 50 years. They banned them from immigrating to the United States for nearly a hundred. They use them as jokes. They desexualized their men in mass media. They used them as the target of economic fear in the 80s and 90s. They prepretrated a million man hours of pain, suffering, misery, destitution, prostitution and every other kind of crimes against humanity you could imagine. They have been the butt of jokes. The targets of hate crimes. They have been killed, murdered, raped, enslaved, tortured, time and time again. Their nations have been invaded. Their people have been forced to convert. Every single evil thing that could be uttered from the mouth of mankind, angel or demon or satan himself has been inflicted upon them by the west. Now a virus came from their shores and shut down the whole world. This is just retribution. Like the 10 plagues of Egypt. The world has escaped honestly, quite unharmed compared to the tolls that the asian population has had to suffer. If all their suffering were held up, all their death collected, and released upon the western world as a bomb, there would be not one human in America that did not know the pain of loss nor one happy man alive on earth. The death toll would be beyond 100 million. Naturally the reaction of that deep-seated slavery, rape, murder, assasinations, control, discrimination and evil passed on by our forefathers through both cultural transmission but also our very genes; has generated a deep inevitable racial response of hatred and blame that is being levied against China and all of Asia by the white men who control everything that is the massive capitalist machine that threatens to wipe out our very civilization. The truth does not matter. The only thing that matters is race, capitalism and "freedumb". And Asians and their oposition to capitalism, their embrace of collectivism are other and anathema to White America. Their is zero evidence that COVID escaped from a lab just like there is zero evidence that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction. The white men will still use these conspiracy theories to enflict their racial hatred and their demonic activities on the entire planet in the form of war. They will kill others and they will kill their own children to stave their racial blood lust. Woe to humanity. Woe.
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VitalSigns posted:Seems pretty sensible to me. Let the truth ring from the heavens. I will recreate accounts to quote this again and again as a act of penance for the MODS being utter poo poo. gently caress you. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Yeah but they do be eating bats tho
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CameronisGod posted:I don't care if this gets me suspended or banned. They shall do so because I speak the truth. They shall do so because they can not control that they themselves are inhabited by the demonic sins of our forefathers within their own genetic and cultural transmission. Is this your opinion or a factual statement?
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Mar 1, 2023 22:25
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CameronisGod posted:I don't care if this gets me suspended or banned. They shall do so because I speak the truth. They shall do so because they can not control that they themselves are inhabited by the demonic sins of our forefathers within their own genetic and cultural transmission. Good news Imperial Japan, you're off the hook
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Mar 1, 2023 22:34
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The lab leak theory was always kind of plausible. Viruses are studied all the time and lab accidents happen all the time, they just typically don't result in worldwide pandemics. There was an initial coverup with doctors getting arrested and China being uncooperative, etc., which lends more credibility to this theory. The biggest problem is that the "lab leak" theory gets conflated with the "engineered virus" bullshit, against all evidence that this is a naturally-evolved virus. It's pretty silly to say that just because one American entity stated that they think the virus leaked from a lab that means that "the West wants war with China" (no they don't, and you can see Russia vs Ukraine for evidence for how much we don't want war with a major military power). All other departments said that they don't think it leaked from a lab, as did the WHO. If they are trying to blame China, they're doing a pretty poor job of coordinating this message. Edit: Also, I don't have to tell anyone here that people don't really give a gently caress about COVID anymore, from not masking to not getting boosted (even though boosted people die of COVID at a fraction of the rate that people die of the flu for gently caress's sake). The masking is even less in Europe. This is a very bad time to try to get people angry at China regarding COVID. small butter fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Mar 1, 2023 |
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Mar 1, 2023 23:19
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small butter posted:It's pretty silly to say that just because one American entity stated that they think the virus leaked from a lab that means that "the West wants war with China" Who said this?
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Ranter posted:Who said this? BBC News - FBI chief Christopher Wray says China lab leak most likely https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64806903 BBC News posted:"The FBI has for quite some time now assessed that the origins of the pandemic are most likely a potential lab incident," he told Fox News. Edit: If you're referring to the "war with China" comment, Ranter posted:There's two parts. This covid leak stuff is to be able to assign blame and therefore take the heat off neoliberalism's failures to handle the pandemic; failure to reduce unnecessary suffering and death. Deflection. There are lots of leftists who take any criticism of China or even ascribing something factual to them (Uyghur concentration camps) as prepping for war. small butter fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Mar 1, 2023 |
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Mar 1, 2023 23:49
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So no one said it, you're making something up to call it silly. The mod already stated that the war stuff is offtopic. You're trying to bring it back by making up that someone tied the COVID leak to war.
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Mar 1, 2023 23:57
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Ranter posted:So no one said it, you're making something up to call it silly. The mod already stated that the war stuff is offtopic. You're trying to bring it back by making up that someone tied the COVID leak to war. Was that not responding to the big rant? (Which, granted, is also probably a silly thing to do.) CameronisGod posted:The white men will still use these conspiracy theories to enflict their racial hatred and their demonic activities on the entire planet in the form of war.
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Mar 2, 2023 00:07
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No one said it but a mod said it was off-topic? Regardless, the same argument can be made about "deflecting blame" for the failures of America's response. One agency says that it leaked, the rest say no, so the lack of coordination implies no conspiracy to blame China. And all this when people stopped caring about COVID anyway. The accidental lab leak theory is plausible, though probably unlikely.
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Mar 2, 2023 00:09
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It's bad enough that departments with no expertise in pandemics are releasing reports on COVID, it's inexcusable that they're being kept classified so they can't be peer reviewed in public while being used to support whatever conspiracy people want them to.
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Mar 2, 2023 00:13
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small butter posted:No one said it but a mod said it was off-topic? Correct. And you are quoting me yet trying to claim I wrote something else that isn't in my quote. You appear to be confused, but I suggest giving this same page another careful read through to try and understand.
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Mar 2, 2023 00:16
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SaTaMaS posted:It's bad enough that departments with no expertise in pandemics are releasing reports on COVID, it's inexcusable that they're being kept classified so they can't be peer reviewed in public while being used to support whatever conspiracy people want them to. The Dept of Energy is actually in charge of 17 national laboratories including Argonne, Brookhaven, Lawrence Livermore, Fermi and the NVBL and sponsors research at hundreds of universities through the nation. quote:Through the National Virtual Biotechnology Laboratory (NVBL) established by DOE, the National Laboratories have collectively contributed to AI-informed epidemiological and molecular modeling, personal protective equipment supply chain challenges, the search for genomic clues, and other areas to support the Nation’s (and world’s) pandemic response. More significantly they're also in charge of weapons development and testing, which includes bioweapons, so yeah I'd say they're probably pretty good at lab security when it comes to infectious agents.
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Ranter posted:Correct. And you are quoting me yet trying to claim I wrote something else that isn't in my quote. You appear to be confused, but I suggest giving this same page another careful read through to try and understand. Not confused at all. You were conspiracy-mongering about deflecting blame by blaming China, even though most agencies don't agree with the lab leak theory. You then went on a tangent about war, which you claim is unrelated to the lab leak theory, but here are these other things that we're doing to prep the country for war but concocting a lab leak theory is certainly not part of it, no siree. My reading was extraordinarily careful, which is why I picked up on these related points that you yourself, the author of said points, seemed to have missed.
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All of Trump's agencies didn't agree with him about the lab leak either, that didn't stop some of his officials and his media allies from talking about it to deflect from his handling of the pandemic once it came here. We're in postmodern politics, he wasn't saying it for the reality-obsessed fact-checkers, he was saying it for the man on the street who would hear something about a lab leak from China and then create an association between all the destruction of the pandemic and a foreign enemy rather than the administration's policies. Biden has the same need I think, four(?) times as many Americans died under Open Biden policies which rolled back much of Trump's already inadequate pandemic controls. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Mar 2, 2023 |
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