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GilliamYaeger
Jan 10, 2012

Call Gespenst!

studio mujahideen posted:

yeah I do wish there was a quick way to see peoples EGO cost requirements in battle, but nothing so far has been difficult enough that I care

i imagine thatll change eventually
It's pretty hard to parse information in this game, I find. A lot of the important stuff, like what color cards a given Identity has and in what quantity, what you need for EGO/Passives, hell even what the cards are is hard to parse - the icons are pretty generic (and very hard to read on a tiny phone screen) and the colors can blend in with each other sometimes...whose idea was it to have orange AND red, as well as blue AND light blue?! At least make the icons different shapes, like squares and triangles instead of all circles.

Also there isn't an easy way to look at your team's stats at a glance, which is pretty important for units like W Corp Don (since she needs 10 charge for her third skill or else she eats 20% of her HP in damage). You'd think there'd be some HP bars in a corner or something in between rounds.

Edit: Oh, and I will state that maxing out a unit's upthread improves gameplay massively. Frankly, the third skill should not be locked behind levelling up the identity, since it's actually pretty important to gameplay. W Corp Don's third skill is her big charge spender attack, so without that her building up charge with her other attacks is pointless.

GilliamYaeger fucked around with this message at 08:10 on Feb 27, 2023

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Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
Is there a reason why I can't even view the Tier Upgrade for base Identities and ZAYIN EGO?

PlasticAutomaton
Nov 12, 2016

Artoria Pendonut


I'm assuming that's unlocked through story progression.

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

GilliamYaeger posted:

It's pretty hard to parse information in this game, I find. A lot of the important stuff, like what color cards a given Identity has and in what quantity, what you need for EGO/Passives, hell even what the cards are is hard to parse - the icons are pretty generic (and very hard to read on a tiny phone screen) and the colors can blend in with each other sometimes...whose idea was it to have orange AND red, as well as blue AND light blue?! At least make the icons different shapes, like squares and triangles instead of all circles.

Also there isn't an easy way to look at your team's stats at a glance, which is pretty important for units like W Corp Don (since she needs 10 charge for her third skill or else she eats 20% of her HP in damage). You'd think there'd be some HP bars in a corner or something in between rounds.

Edit: Oh, and I will state that maxing out a unit's upthread improves gameplay massively. Frankly, the third skill should not be locked behind levelling up the identity, since it's actually pretty important to gameplay. W Corp Don's third skill is her big charge spender attack, so without that her building up charge with her other attacks is pointless.

Dang, how do you have a unit at maxed upthread already? Did you actually convert ego shards? I have no idea if doing so is a good idea or not, that seems to be the only way to "spark" a specific drop...

GilliamYaeger
Jan 10, 2012

Call Gespenst!

Infinity Gaia posted:

Dang, how do you have a unit at maxed upthread already? Did you actually convert ego shards? I have no idea if doing so is a good idea or not, that seems to be the only way to "spark" a specific drop...
I converted shards, yeah.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
I'm going to wait until the Mirror Dungeon unlocks before I do that.

Einander
Sep 14, 2008

"Yeh've forged a magnificent sword."

"This one's only practice. The real sword I intend to forge will be three times longer."

"Can there really be a sword as monstrous as that in this world?"

"Yes. I can see that sword... Somewhere out there..."
Finished the first dungeon. I like the "end of episode" credits and the character song! Good way to wrap it up. Got to say, though, (end of dungeon story spoilers) Yuri had so many death flags that I was sure she'd walk out of it just fine, but I guess that trick only works for characters more central to the cast.

The big and small abnormality fights feel like the actual combat system, and I like it much more than the "just chain colors" random battles. I also appreciate the dungeons letting you pick different sinners for every fight, even if I don't actually need to do that yet. Dungeons are cool! I also appreciate that story progress seems to automatically upgrade the levels and basic EGOs of characters, rather than you having to spend resources on that. (Though I'd be surprised if the basic identities are actually worth using, even when they're eventually maxed.)

GilliamYaeger
Jan 10, 2012

Call Gespenst!
I'm up to the Smoke War segment of the dungeon and man, if this is what I think it is it explains a lot about what the hell happened in the last few days of Lobotomy Corp.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
Is there a recommendation on if to play Limbus on phone or PC?

GilliamYaeger
Jan 10, 2012

Call Gespenst!

Unlucky7 posted:

Is there a recommendation on if to play Limbus on phone or PC?
You should be able to play on both - there's a bug they're working on where you aren't able to connect your mobile account with your PC account at the moment though.

In the meantime, you should start on mobile. It's impossible to reroll on your Steam account, and since you get 50 rolls to start with rerolling is extremely powerful, especially with how quick and easy it is. Takes literally a minute to reroll an account. Just make sure to use those 10 roll tickets before you start rolling on the beginner banner, since there's a bug that causes it to eat them AND your Lunacy if they're in your inventory when you roll it. :lobcorp: Or, better yet, don't pick up the tickets at all until you're done with the beginner gacha.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

GilliamYaeger posted:

You should be able to play on both - there's a bug they're working on where you aren't able to connect your mobile account with your PC account at the moment though.

In the meantime, you should start on mobile. It's impossible to reroll on your Steam account, and since you get 50 rolls to start with rerolling is extremely powerful, especially with how quick and easy it is. Takes literally a minute to reroll an account. Just make sure to use those 10 roll tickets before you start rolling on the beginner banner, since there's a bug that causes it to eat them AND your Lunacy if they're in your inventory when you roll it. :lobcorp: Or, better yet, don't pick up the tickets at all until you're done with the beginner gacha.

So I do not need to be forced to play through an unskippable tutorial then? What should I be aiming for? I am not looking to be optimal but as long as it is not a pain in the rear end I may as well.

staplegun
Sep 21, 2003

I got 3 EGOs (1 for the guaranteed 000) and 0 000s from my pulls. Is this good enough to keep? Who knows! I guess I'll wait until they get steam account linking fixed before figuring it out.

studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

I spent lunacy on the starter banner and then my free tickets, and have enough 000s to field a full team of five, so im just gonna bank the rest of my lunacy for stronger banners

btw remember to go back into completed chapters and claim the lunacy rewards, including the prologue!

GilliamYaeger
Jan 10, 2012

Call Gespenst!

Unlucky7 posted:

So I do not need to be forced to play through an unskippable tutorial then? What should I be aiming for? I am not looking to be optimal but as long as it is not a pain in the rear end I may as well.
Anyone you like. I've been having a lot of success with Warp Don/Kurokumo Rodion/Blade Lineage Yi Sang/Kurokumo Hong Lu/either of Fausts red identities. The key thing is to have synergy between what colors make up your party members decks more than anything else - ideally you want to build around as few colors as you can get away with. Synergy >>>> rarity at the moment.

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

I played up until the first boss and love the game so far. My only complaint is that it was way too hard to target body parts on my phone. Zooming in doesn't help because the camera resets when you try to select the skills.

TeeQueue
Oct 9, 2012

The time has come. Soon, the bell shall ring. A new world will come. Rise, my servants. Rise and serve me. I am death and life. Darkness and light.
I think I've basically twigged onto the flow of the game, so it's going to be interesting trying to explain it all in understandable english for people to pick up properly.

.....I got absolutely no LP work done tonight, though. We all saw that coming but it should be the only night I lose entirely to Limble Crimble.

Amp
Sep 10, 2010

:11tea::bubblewoop::agesilaus::megaman::yoshi::squawk::supaburn::iit::spooky::axe::honked::shroom::smugdog::sg::pkmnwhy::parrot::screamy::tubular::corsair::sanix::yeeclaw::hayter::flip::redflag:
If someone can come up with a funny thread title that isn't just me saying "hey these games are here" please let me know (report/PM, whatever is fine) so I can give you something fun.

Boksi
Jan 11, 2016
I like how they put the HamHam PangPang staff in the credits.

GiantRockFromSpace
Mar 1, 2019

Just Cram It


One question, can you reroll if you sign in with a Google account? Cause I've read Guest accounts are getting deleted on logoff sometimes.

KobunFan
Aug 13, 2022

TeeQueue posted:

I think I've basically twigged onto the flow of the game, so it's going to be interesting trying to explain it all in understandable english for people to pick up properly.

.....I got absolutely no LP work done tonight, though. We all saw that coming but it should be the only night I lose entirely to Limble Crimble.

That would be so helpful, thank you. All these numbers and no tooltips are making me go insane, even if I am beating the game without really needing them.

EDIT: No matter what, though, I think we're going to need to copy Malkuth and use a notepad for all the dang submenus.

KobunFan fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Feb 27, 2023

Irony.or.Death
Apr 1, 2009


GiantRockFromSpace posted:

One question, can you reroll if you sign in with a Google account? Cause I've read Guest accounts are getting deleted on logoff sometimes.

Effectively no, you're going to want to get through your rolls and make the call on keep vs. keep fishing before you close the client. Which is especially obnoxious since some of the 3* pull animations crash it on my phone, but I'm supposed to be shunning this anyway so I deserve the suffering.

DropTheAnvil
May 16, 2021
One thing I'm missing in Limbus Corp is how to tell what "element" an attack generates. Can anyone explain that?

TeeQueue
Oct 9, 2012

The time has come. Soon, the bell shall ring. A new world will come. Rise, my servants. Rise and serve me. I am death and life. Darkness and light.

DropTheAnvil posted:

One thing I'm missing in Limbus Corp is how to tell what "element" an attack generates. Can anyone explain that?

Attacks generate the element of whatever color the icon is. If you’re colorblind, the upper-right part of the skill icon also is different according to what type it is, too.

red plastic cup
Apr 25, 2012

Reach WITH IN To your LOCAL cup and you may find A Friend And Boy...
Merging accounts between mobile and Steam works, it's just gotten flipped around. You get two codes when you merge accounts, UID and Account Merger Code. Enter the UID in the box for the Account merger code and vice versa, and it'll ask you which account you want to overwrite.

:lobcorp:

TeeQueue
Oct 9, 2012

The time has come. Soon, the bell shall ring. A new world will come. Rise, my servants. Rise and serve me. I am death and life. Darkness and light.
It allegedly works. I’ve been getting error #1’s every time I’ve tried for the past few hours.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
I managed to get through the first chapter and partway through the second before making the calculated decision to go to bed because it was 2 AM.

I'm enjoying it so far. Hong Lu's being shockingly funny right now.

The only 'shared' Identities I have so far are Liu Meursault and Gregor, and while I've fielded them together I can't really say they have super amazing Burn synergy yet. Would anyone say that the same Identity on different Sinners work well together for other groups, like a Kurokumo Ryoshu/Hong Lu/Rodion team, or a WARP Faust/Don/Meursault team, or a Shi Don/Heathcliff/Ishmael team, etc?

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead
i love my renewable-energy hybrid bus

KobunFan
Aug 13, 2022
Okay, so, finally ran into a combat where I couldn't win by just rushing them (the 3 wave fight against the TingTang Boss). I found that if you are probably going to lose the clash or are under fire from too many sources, that's when you should either pull out the big guns (EGO) or just use the defend command.

Also, Don is acting exactly like I expected her to. She's not an old man anymore, she's a fit woman with a big weapon so she's hurting people according to her delusions. The only reason the original Don couldn't do that was because he was an weak, old man wearing garbage.

KobunFan fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Feb 27, 2023

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

Chapter 2 is so great. It's like someone's carefully crafted D&D casino heist being completely ignored in favor of extreme murderhobo behavior.

posadas
Jan 28, 2021
I noticed there's an item as compensation for server maintenance in the inbox, with the statement "1 days left". If I claim them, then reroll today, will the new guest account get the reward again, or should I make sure I'm happy with what I have first before claiming them? I'm new to this genre, and it feels like a lot of interface kind of assumes you already know how gacha games work

The Lord of Hats
Aug 22, 2010

Hello, yes! Is being very good day for posting, no?
I definitely feel like I’m going to need to get the Steam version as well, just so that I can have more screen space to read stuff and another monitor to actually work out teambuilding, because holy poo poo is there a lot going on.

The characters are all great, though, I’m excited to see more story.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
Just did another pull, got Kurokumo Ryoshu and Blade Lineage Outis!

KobunFan
Aug 13, 2022
G-corp Gregor is my new best friend. Any mission he's on he tends to be the MVP.

GiantRockFromSpace
Mar 1, 2019

Just Cram It


posadas posted:

I noticed there's an item as compensation for server maintenance in the inbox, with the statement "1 days left". If I claim them, then reroll today, will the new guest account get the reward again, or should I make sure I'm happy with what I have first before claiming them? I'm new to this genre, and it feels like a lot of interface kind of assumes you already know how gacha games work

You can fet it again as long as it's today, just tried.

Also how big is Ego? Managed to get G Corp Gregor/TingTang HongLu/Reindeer Ishmael in the pulls which is a lot of 000 identities but not sure if to go for the next.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
Kurokumo Hong Lu just shot up quite a bit after upgrading him to T2-his cyan skill gets a modifier where he'll reuse it/double it's hits if the target has no Bleed, which can let him output some really good damage.

GilliamYaeger
Jan 10, 2012

Call Gespenst!

GiantRockFromSpace posted:

You can fet it again as long as it's today, just tried.

Also how big is Ego? Managed to get G Corp Gregor/TingTang HongLu/Reindeer Ishmael in the pulls which is a lot of 000 identities but not sure if to go for the next.
Not that important, at least at this stage of the game.

KobunFan
Aug 13, 2022
Man, those mariachi-lovers are kicking my rear end. They get too many coins/attacks.

posadas
Jan 28, 2021
So there's 50 rolls total:
20 for the server maintenance apology in the inbox, which ends today
20 for the tutorial
5 from the launch rewards in the inbox
5 for going to Drive, going back to the prologue, and picking up the lunacy rewards on the top of the screen

The odds of getting an EGO is 1.3%, and the odds of getting an 000 Identity is 2.9%. So I guess this means that as long as we get at least 3 of them, we're getting better than expected value

I ended up rolling 3 EGO and 1 000. The fact that the UI has slots for all the LC abnormality danger levels and all current EGO is TETH/HE makes me assume that these will get outclassed in the future, but I guess that's also possible with identities. The fine print says that you can't get duplicate ego, so the odds of getting a specific EGO goes up as you exhaust the pool.

And I haven't even started playing the game yet

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
I did not expect Limbus to be PM's FUNNIEST game so far. Between Sinclair's "Go white boy, go" dance and now Ryoshu's bleeped out lesson in gruesome, Chapter 2 is making me laugh my head off.

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Einander
Sep 14, 2008

"Yeh've forged a magnificent sword."

"This one's only practice. The real sword I intend to forge will be three times longer."

"Can there really be a sword as monstrous as that in this world?"

"Yes. I can see that sword... Somewhere out there..."
I'm most of the way through Chapter 2. I've been burning a lot of my Shards from pulling on trading for Threads, since I figure that getting to the Mirror Dungeon ASAP so I can grind them is probably worth it long-term. (And if not I'm sure I'll only find out too late to feel bad about the mistake. :v:) Haven't pulled any EGO, but I've gotten five three-stars plus the free pre-reg one. The big standouts for me so far in the three-stars I have are Hong Lu's Tingtang Gangleader and Heathcliff's R Corp 4th Pack Rabbit.

Hong Lu's is the first I've Uptied to max. His Shank and Mutilate both focus on taking out enemies that are at low HP, with Shank repeating its last hit on an enemy that's below 25% at the end of the attack and Mutilate repeating if it kills (though sadly the copy doesn't seem able to copy itself, ala Overrun); Shank's also good for clashes, having three coins and high values. Mutilate's a bit swingy, since it gets +25 to the value if it wins the coin flip, but since coin flips are influenced by sanity, you just want to wait to use it until your SP's high and to be careful when you use EGO. It's something you use to clean up, though, so that's when your sanity would be high anyway, but even then you'll sometimes get unlucky. Still, I've seen both Shank and Mutilate just flat-out kill a mid-Chapter 2 enemy that was Fatally weak to their types from full HP with high rolls. (In Mutilate's case, since it was the copy that did the one-shot, it killed two enemies that turn. Incredible value.)

Heathcliff's is an interesting case of how the mechanics work. You need ammo for his attacks, and he has no way to reload. (Which is ironic, since in Ruina Rabbits had a "don't deplete Ranged pages" passive.) The thing is, it only checks for ammo after the clashes. He has a lot of coins and pretty high values, so even after he runs out of ammo and stops doing much actual damage, he's still contributing a lot of value by stopping enemy attacks. Plus, that initial burst focus is great with Hong Lu's Tingtang Gangleader in particular and in Limbus Company's combat system in general.

KobunFan posted:

G-corp Gregor is my new best friend. Any mission he's on he tends to be the MVP.

Gregor's G Corp three-star is the only one of the fives I have but haven't used yet, because it looks bad. Having a self-healing focus seems incredibly dangerous in a game with this game's stagger mechanics. What makes him good, does he just do a lot of damage?

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