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Ulio posted:Man Ivy is such a beast. I was wondering why everyone using her on maddening runs. Fliers are always strong but drat at the time you get her she is really strong with just a couple of levels. Plus hardly anyone doubles in maddening anyways, so one of her biggest flaws isn't an issue. That dex cap is painful for trying to land thoron on speedy enemies though.
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Engaging with Tiki has a fairly obvious drawback of "is Tiki" to go along with the fairly obvious advantage of "is Tiki".
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Ah that's true, Tiki does have the issue of taking away any ranged attacks you might have while engaged, I forgot about that.
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Veryslightlymad posted:Engaging with Tiki has a fairly obvious drawback of "is Tiki" to go along with the fairly obvious advantage of "is Tiki". Imagine for a minute: in some other world they decided in development to make that downside the upside of "is Fae" Also they made the manakate engage form into a proper murder chicken.
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Natural 20 posted:Specifically the long term development and relationship with the lost emblems. Them going evil doesn't really achieve anything to develop anyone and you kinda just get them back and nobody really reacts. isn't Lucina coded as female marth, at least, that's how I always read it during awakening. So she "lost" marth but got "him" back (though there's not a lot of conversations between them unless you grind out bond stuff....but the bond stuff is incredibly lame by comparison to the support cutscenes. Like, the main characters have a few minutes of back and forth but the emblems are like "hi i am character. hi i am emblem responding to your statement" and it ends and there's nothing more to it) also Anna and Camilla have a line together where Camilla references she had a different Anna in her world. This Anna goes, paraphrased "Oh so you know my sisters?" which, I'm pretty sure this particular anna never mentioned any sisters up until this point, merely saying she's been looking for her "family", but doing the fake crying thing. So, anna is aware of her other variants? 
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GreenBuckanneer posted:edelguard and tiki have some dope skills i grabbed immediately, like legacy and starsphere which I immediately grabbed and latched onto anna and jean Yeah, I went a bit wild with Starsphere in my hard game and got it on all of Alear, Diamant, Ivy, Anna, and Yunaka fairly early which makes a huge difference. I was thinking of benching Framme but decided to feed her XP for a couple maps with Tiki and she showed me how wrong I was by getting several near-perfect levels. Her stats are solidly better than Kagetsu's now and she still has like 1700 SP.
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Feb 28, 2023 18:51
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The Annas are canonically a pandimensional family of sisters dedicated to commerce. This is not a joke.
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Feb 28, 2023 18:52
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Also in FEH they're more than willing to rip each other off. Either that or it's just Askr Anna, whose merchant senses have dulled due to having a different day job.
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Feb 28, 2023 19:01
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Harrow posted:Ah that's true, Tiki does have the issue of taking away any ranged attacks you might have while engaged, I forgot about that. Also Staves.
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Feb 28, 2023 19:03
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You can still Dance, though!
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ROFL Octopus posted:Unfortunately I don’t see how Adaptable can be good outside of having some kind of crazy FFXII-style Gambit system Yeah, you would need to either let the player get really in depth on the priority system or add in a Super Robot Wars style "select your weapon before each individual combat" menu and neither are especially good from a gameflow perspective. I think being a Sync Skill would help somewhat because at least then you can get greater control by limiting your weapons, but Leif's (pretty bad) Engage weapons just get in the way a lot of times.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:also Anna and Camilla have a line together where Camilla references she had a different Anna in her world. This Anna goes, paraphrased "Oh so you know my sisters?" which, I'm pretty sure this particular anna never mentioned any sisters up until this point, merely saying she's been looking for her "family", but doing the fake crying thing. So, anna is aware of her other variants? Yes and that's actually canon. The other Annas are her sisters.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:isn't Lucina coded as female marth, at least, that's how I always read it during awakening. So she "lost" marth but got "him" back (though there's not a lot of conversations between them unless you grind out bond stuff....but the bond stuff is incredibly lame by comparison to the support cutscenes. Like, the main characters have a few minutes of back and forth but the emblems are like "hi i am character. hi i am emblem responding to your statement" and it ends and there's nothing more to it) There's at least a couple of gems hidden in the banality. Like Chloe hitting up erika for a threesome with Ephraim. Or all the people reacting to Anna. Or literally everything with soren in it.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:edit: byleth has a 1.2x xp boost for people near him, I wonder if it stacks It does!
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On Maddening in particular, you get 13 experience for a same-level kill, and it basically increments by 1 or 2 points per level in either direction depending on which way the level difference goes. Mentorship’s 20% experience boost essentially just kicks you up one tier on the experience reward scale, going from 13 to 15 for a same-level kill. In other words, once they’ve pulled ahead by about 100 EXP, your unit gets the same experience with Mentorship as they would have gotten without it. It does not pay itself back. You’re essentially paying net ~150 SP (and a skill slot) for All Stats +0.5 or so from your extra 100 EXP. e: I think on lower difficulties you just get something like twice as much EXP as on maddening? In that case the point about getting the same EXP once Mentorship has pulled you ahead by 100 still stands. Zoran fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Feb 28, 2023 |
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Yeah Mentorship isn't worth it on Maddening since you need to be picky with your SP and there's always better options to pick.
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Harrow posted:Yes and that's actually canon. The other Annas are her sisters. Now I'm wondering if this anna is playing the kid card as a way to manipulate customers to buy things from her. Don't buy stuff, she guilt trips you into buying it because "don't want to upset the kid! oh now she's crying sorry i was just kidding. i'll buy it now" I can't pick up the exact example but I seem to recall her doing that exact thing in some of the support segments. That's pretty cool, anyways, the multiversal shopkeeper aware of other timelines GreenBuckanneer fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Feb 28, 2023 |
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Feb 28, 2023 20:07
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I decided to do Maddenung and this is actually not nearly as difficult as I thought it would be!
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Now I'm wondering if this anna is playing the kid card as a way to manipulate customers to buy things from her. Don't buy stuff, she guilt trips you into buying it because "don't want to upset the kid! oh now she's crying sorry i was just kidding. i'll buy it now" I can't pick up the exact example but I seem to recall her doing that exact thing in some of the support segments. If anything she does the exact opposite. She is a Serious Merchant doing Serious Merchant Things. You will refer to her as 'Lady Anna' instead of just 'Anna' (or 'Anna-san' instead of just 'Anna') because you should treat her as an adult instead of a child. Of course that just makes her seem more childish, but lol.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Now I'm wondering if this anna is playing the kid card as a way to manipulate customers to buy things from her. Don't buy stuff, she guilt trips you into buying it because "don't want to upset the kid! oh now she's crying sorry i was just kidding. i'll buy it now" I can't pick up the exact example but I seem to recall her doing that exact thing in some of the support segments. Yeah she's the youngest Anna sister and she's very aware that she can play that up for more sales but she often tries to appear to be a very serious and professional merchant despite her age I love the little money gremlin inthesto posted:I decided to do Maddenung and this is actually not nearly as difficult as I thought it would be! In my experience it wasn't that tough until Chapter 10, which got me extremely tilted. Evens out a bit again after that before spiking back up eventually.
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inthesto posted:I decided to do Maddenung and this is actually not nearly as difficult as I thought it would be! Engage maddening is definitely the most approachable extreme difficulty in a mainline game so far. I would describe it as fairly consistently tough but fair, and the start is pretty manageable instead of kicking your balls in like most of them do.
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I understand how someone can find Bond conversations underwhelming but at the same time we’re talking about 35 characters each having unique voiced dialogue with 12+ emblems so tbh I find it impressive we got anything at all.
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You guys do know that during the end credits We literally get a scene of Anna reuniting with her family in a big hug and it’s Awakening Anna and Fates Anna Right? Also Jean and his parents are watching this for some reason.
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galagazombie posted:You guys do know that during the end credits We literally get a scene of Anna reuniting with her family in a big hug and it’s Awakening Anna and Fates Anna Right? Also Jean and his parents are watching this for some reason. Yes, and also Anna's ending slide mentions her large family of sisters who all have the same face and name Multidimensional identical Anna sisters are canon
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Zoran posted:On Maddening in particular, you get 13 experience for a same-level kill, and it basically increments by 1 or 2 points per level in either direction depending on which way the level difference goes. I had a quick look at it but TLDR Lineage is about 50 Net SP for a level and Mentorship is 150 Net SP. Together they're 250 SP for 1.5x a level. And obvs you can just use them to massively expand your roster.
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Harrow posted:Yes, and also Anna's ending slide mentions her large family of sisters who all have the same face and name They've been canon since Awakening.
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Using a larger roster on Maddening isn’t really offering you much of value. You have enough exp to hit your deployment slots and keep up with the exp curve already and going beyond that doesn’t offer you much, since you’ve also got enough roster spots to cover all important bases.
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RevolverDivider posted:Using a larger roster on Maddening isn’t really offering you much of value. You have enough exp to hit your deployment slots and keep up with the exp curve already and going beyond that doesn’t offer you much, since you’ve also got enough roster spots to cover all important bases. Eh disagree. Being able to hold certain characters on deck when I was blind on maddening had value since I didn't know who was good or bad and what each map would need next. If you know what's coming it's much more limited. Also if you're ironmanning its obviously really good.
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Chapter 10 ran me out of rewinds. I always forget how the AI works in that map. Putting Sigurd on Chloe feels so bad, but I also feel like it's the best options to nab that thief.
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you can fly up into the void underneath the chests and open them in perfect safety. if you do this too fast the thief runs away and you lose a free steel dagger, even!
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chapter 14 had me split into two groups to get both chests since the stupid thief kept stealing it too fast, and I didn't even open the door on the left, i just teleported into the room, then waited for the group to attack from the south and then teleported from the left room into the center
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Is there a best time to do the dlc paralogues? I'm thinking I want to wait until Solm, so I'll get all the people I want to use, but I could go earlier.
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inthesto posted:Chapter 10 ran me out of rewinds. I always forget how the AI works in that map. why do you think it feels bad? stacking mobility is really really strong
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Probably because it’s also fun to just cannonball Louis into the middle of enemies with Sigurd, but yeah I’d say Chloé makes better use of Sigurd in that chapter
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Once you reach the midgame you can ween yourself off Sigurd/Louis since you’ll usually get a bit better utility out of Sigurd by stacking him on a flyer
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Harrow posted:Probably because it’s also fun to just cannonball Louis into the middle of enemies with Sigurd, but yeah I’d say Chloé makes better use of Sigurd in that chapter edit: it happened again with Ivy, who never failed to gain a single point of res and def every level Blaziken386 fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Mar 1, 2023 |
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Sigurd is there to assist with long distance dancing
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cheetah7071 posted:why do you think it feels bad? stacking mobility is really really strong Chloe just doesn't do enough damage! Anyway, I got it by 1. remembering how the last cluster on the first half works (i.e. they won't trigger until you walk into Hortensia's staff range) so setup is easier, and 2. putting Sigurd back on Louis and picking off the thief with thunder + longbow
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Khizan posted:Is there a best time to do the dlc paralogues? I'm thinking I want to wait until Solm, so I'll get all the people I want to use, but I could go earlier. On the other hand, having the DLC Emblems as you go into chapter 10/11 does soften the blow of losing the original six Emblems/patch up some missing proficiency areas (e.g., Soren will be your best option for knives due to losing Leif).
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Outside of the first 6 missions where you're forced to use everyone, I think I'm dropping Louis faster and faster even on maddening.
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