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OBAMNA PHONE posted:Friend of mine is interested in getting a gravel bike, what's the best option for around 1500-1700 and hopefully includes grx or 105 spec components bike price inflation has unfortunately made that a very difficult price/component target to hit anymore  maaaaybe with a DTC brand, on sale, but really hard to find anything like that from a major store brand these days
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OBAMNA PHONE posted:Friend of mine is interested in getting a gravel bike, what's the best option for around 1500-1700 and hopefully includes grx or 105 spec components How much clearance? Ribble has the CGR AL with 105 for $1700. More clearance on their Gravel AL, but $1700 only gets you GRX 400. Strongly recommend against people shopping for steel in this price range. Nice and even medium-range steel bikes are fantastic but cheap ones really are way worse than comparable alu, and in the gravel segment your tire sizes are big enough that misconceptions about frame harshness are irrelevant. bicievino fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Feb 28, 2023 |
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amenenema posted:Canyon Grail AL Just looked this up and in nz that bike retails for ~3k lol
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Slavvy posted:Just looked this up and in nz that bike retails for ~3k lol Which one? If that's the AL 7 that's pretty much 1:1 with the exchange rate so doesn't seem too bad.
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Has anyone had good luck scheduling weightlifting around biking (in particular, lower body stuff)? Right now I am just putting my squat day each week as far from the weekend and its long bike ride as possible, which helps, but this means that I deadlift either a day or two before or after a ride, which I've found still tends to make either the bike riding or deadlifting much harder.
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bicievino posted:Strongly recommend against people shopping for steel in this price range. If this is directed at me, let me point out that what I'm looking for is a heavier steel bike with bigger tires for short-to-medium-length rides, particularly but not exclusively on a couple of nearby bike trails that are in rougher shape than most of the others around me (which are generally quite nice; I'm spoiled in this regard). I'll probably also toss a rack on the back. It'll probably might slow me down a tad, which isn't a problem for what I want to do with the bike. I'm not looking for steel because I don't think aluminum bikes can be smooth-riding. Every bike I've bought in the last few years has been aluminum, and I love them all. Even my road bike, which will continue to be my main bike for long and quicker rides, is all aluminum except for the fork. Is not about performance or a misconception that only steel can handle the "abuse" I plan on subjecting this bike to without rattling my joints apart and blistering my bottom. I want a steel bike because steel looks cool, and except for the weight, I don't often hear people complain about the ride feel. The whole vibe tickles my nostalgia bone, and the increase in weight and drop in performance doesn't matter to me in this particular case. I ain't taking this on a MTB trail or a century ride. A tweed ride is more like it.
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I picked up climbing as a secondary activity instead. gently caress leg day TBQH.tarlibone posted:I want a steel bike because steel looks cool, and except for the weight, I don't often hear people complain about the ride feel. The whole vibe tickles my nostalgia bone, and the increase in weight and drop in performance doesn't matter to me in this particular case. I ain't taking this on a MTB trail or a century ride. A tweed ride is more like it.
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evil_bunnY posted:I picked up climbing as a secondary activity instead. gently caress leg day TBQH. That is my tertiary activity, which blessedly only really fucks up my fingers/forearms. Sadly I pretty much need to weightlift or my back/knees get hosed up quickly.
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tildes posted:Has anyone had good luck scheduling weightlifting around biking (in particular, lower body stuff)? Right now I am just putting my squat day each week as far from the weekend and its long bike ride as possible, which helps, but this means that I deadlift either a day or two before or after a ride, which I've found still tends to make either the bike riding or deadlifting much harder. I have. I do stationary for 15 minutes to warm up on weight lifting days, and I generally ride on the weekends. Whenever possible, I do leg day on Tuesday and back/core stuff on Thursday. I have cardio days on Wednesday (if there's no band rehearsal) and Friday (religiously), and those are on the stationary unless weather and daylight permit riding outside. I've been doing this weightlifting routine for years, and once I had some semblance of cycling legs under me, neither activity has interfered with the other.
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tildes posted:Has anyone had good luck scheduling weightlifting around biking (in particular, lower body stuff)? Right now I am just putting my squat day each week as far from the weekend and its long bike ride as possible, which helps, but this means that I deadlift either a day or two before or after a ride, which I've found still tends to make either the bike riding or deadlifting much harder. Have you tried anything like a theragun (or knockoff) for muscle recovery? I find it definitely helps my recovery
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Cycling Tips used to be my favourite bike website until they got into NFT's and fired everyone but it's now reborn https://escapecollective.cc/ Looks like basically all the staff from cycling tips + the gruber's (famous cycling photographers). I've backed it immediately
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OBAMNA PHONE posted:Friend of mine is interested in getting a gravel bike, what's the best option for around 1500-1700 and hopefully includes grx or 105 spec components Which country / currency? In the UK it’s Boardman ADV or Decathlon GRVL something by quite a long way, then Ribble or Canyon. Giant Revolt 0 is a decent spec too, worth checking your local prices, 20% sale here at present.
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Cycling Tips used to be my favourite bike website until they got into NFT's and fired everyone but it's now reborn Excellent. Also backed this.
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Cycling Tips used to be my favourite bike website until they got into NFT's and fired everyone but it's now reborn Fully sick, thanks pube doc
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Sweet, I just freed up some subscription money by canceling my Outside+ account. It was worth it when you got a free race entry, but they're not doing that this year. Their bicycle content is very lame, IMO.
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tildes posted:Has anyone had good luck scheduling weightlifting around biking (in particular, lower body stuff)? Right now I am just putting my squat day each week as far from the weekend and its long bike ride as possible, which helps, but this means that I deadlift either a day or two before or after a ride, which I've found still tends to make either the bike riding or deadlifting much harder. IMO it really depends what your goals are and what you're trying to accomplish with the strength work. If I'm just doing maintenance weights (1-2 per week), I only ride recovery that day, and preferably after. Try to have a one-day gap before a race. I only try to build during a dedicated strength/sprint block, and then all the riding is endurance pace or easier since there's an interference effect with strength work and either vo2 or threshold.
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tarlibone posted:If this is directed at me, let me point out that what I'm looking for is a heavier steel bike with bigger tires for short-to-medium-length rides, particularly but not exclusively on a couple of nearby bike trails that are in rougher shape than most of the others around me (which are generally quite nice; I'm spoiled in this regard). I'll probably also toss a rack on the back. It'll probably might slow me down a tad, which isn't a problem for what I want to do with the bike. Nah, was just extra info for the person asking about it. There's nothing wrong with shopping on aesthetic as priority one. Sounds like you're eyes open about tradeoffs so gung ho imo.
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Guinness posted:bike price inflation has unfortunately made that a very difficult price/component target to hit anymore Jesus. Not that long ago there were $1000 bikes with mostly 105 components. But I guess maybe modern Tiagra is better than 105 was 10 years ago.
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It looks like Shimano's going to replace their whole sub-105 ecosystem with an interchangeable hydro disk groupset that can do 9, 10 and 11 speed. Been announced for MB/Hybrid, but road is on the way apparently
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Angryhead posted:I'm currently running a Schwalbe Winter with 120 spikes up front and a "regular" MTB tire in the back (Schwalbe Smart Sam IIRC) Fortunately, powerful cycling glutes resulted in me not really feeling it at the time nor today, no damage to bike or clothes either. Glad there were no pedestrians around to hit, but a shame that I was the only one to see and get a laugh out of it.
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yesterday i completed my first ever strava distance challenge! i expected to feel some sort of firework show's worth of pride and confidence but it turns out 200km is basically already what i do in a month
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Angryhead posted:Totally ate poo poo last night, coming down a little S-curve that was apparently covered in black ice and my rear tire just slipped away and I fell and slid on my rear end for a bit. Getting ice on it right away is always good advice; good to see you were thinking on your... uhm, feet.... MrL_JaKiri posted:It looks like Shimano's going to replace their whole sub-105 ecosystem with an interchangeable hydro disk groupset that can do 9, 10 and 11 speed. Been announced for MB/Hybrid, but road is on the way apparently I heard about this yesterday because Youtube knows that I looked at a bicycle once upon a time. I don't know enough about this kind of thing to have an informed opinion about it, but a single, interchangeable system seems like it could be a good idea, right?
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Taribone don't get the Nicasio+ it's a stinker of a bike. The four corners is also not all that great. The 700C Nicasios are OK but just OK. The higher end models are thru axle with a carbon fork and a marked improvement. Gestalt is overall better IMO. I'll be honest aside from the stupid seatpost the aluminum giant revolts are all better bang for your buck around here. YMMV where you are. These days Tiagra is a good group. If you can afford 11s yes 105 is better and the extra gear is is nice but you can get a clutched 10s GRX mech if you want to. If you can only afford the Tiagra get it and ride it and be happy with it.
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tildes posted:Has anyone had good luck scheduling weightlifting around biking (in particular, lower body stuff)? Right now I am just putting my squat day each week as far from the weekend and its long bike ride as possible, which helps, but this means that I deadlift either a day or two before or after a ride, which I've found still tends to make either the bike riding or deadlifting much harder. Science-Based Recommendations for Training to Maximize Concurrent Training https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4213370/ (TL;DR - Hard run/ride AM, refuel, strength PM or Easy run/ride immediately followed by strength) amenenema fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Mar 1, 2023 |
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Silly question but how long do bibs typically last? I still have a bib from my old team that I got in 2009 or so. Surprisingly there are zero tears on it anywhere, but lately I’ve realized it’s significantly less comfortable. That chamois is cashed right?
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Residency Evil posted:Silly question but how long do bibs typically last? Until the person behind you complains about the visibility of your buttcrack
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tarlibone posted:Getting ice on it right away is always good advice; good to see you were thinking on your... uhm, feet.... You'd think that, but it's still got sub-model ranges within it to contain the 9-, 10- and 11- speed parts, and some levels of those are different (only 10+ speed RDs get a clutch, for example) so it's still a mess. If you were in the industry or a deep Shimano fan you'll have to memorise all the little details and gotchas still... meltie fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Mar 1, 2023 |
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Vando posted:Until the person behind you complains about the visibility of your buttcrack This 100%
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I asked this in the General Stupid/Small QUestions Megathread but in retrospect it'll probably get some more traction here: [I just got a resistance trainer and fitted it to my bike successfully, but] space is at a premium in this room and even standing up against my workout equipment, the bike takes up slightly too much of it. So I'm looking around the room for solutions and noting that there is quite a bit of space at one corner of the room, in front of these cupboards/closets(?):  I don't want to bolt anything into them if I don't have to, but what I'm wondering is if there's some solution I can hang over the cupboard doors. The closest analog I can think of is one of those towel racks you hang over your bathroom door, but obviously more robust with extended arms that can accept a full-size bicycle. Does that make sense, and sound like something that exists? Or is there another similar option I can explore?
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A new version of SRAM Force has been released and (to me) it seems to be mostly worse than the old one, but some benefits: - Powermeter is integrated with the chainrings for 2x - Powermeter for 1x is just the Rival PM and single-sided - Shifter hoods are slimmed down but lose the bite point adjustment and some extra functions they had - Front derailleur is better overall though Actually quite happy I got my bike when I did since I was able to get the older spider PM for relatively cheap and Rival seems to be as good if (quite a lot) heavier. Does mean it'll be harder to get SRAM 107 BCD chainrings though if everything will be directmount, but there's plenty of alternatives.
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Mister Speaker posted:I asked this in the General Stupid/Small QUestions Megathread but in retrospect it'll probably get some more traction here: Not sure about hanging from the doors/cupboards as I'd be afraid of the bike pulling them loose, but if there's a bit of space for the legs to extend out then you could lean one of these up against it? https://www.amazon.com/Bike-Gravity-Stand-Delta-Cycle/dp/B0BRGLQ1YN I've used one in the washing/random crap storage room for 5 years and it keeps a bike high and out of the way. It's also pretty sturdy, but depends how heavy the bike is.
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Heliosicle posted:A new version of SRAM Force has been released and (to me) it seems to be mostly worse than the old one, but some benefits: Saw this and pretty happy with my 2022 SRAM Force as well. The chainring thing is the most  thing.Vando posted:Until the person behind you complains about the visibility of your buttcrack This has always been my theory. Thanks guys, will ride this chamois until my penis falls off.
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Hmm. More like SRAM Farce
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Vando posted:Until the person behind you complains about the visibility of your buttcrack
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amenenema posted:Science-Based Recommendations for Training to Maximize Concurrent Training Thank you for this and other’s recs!
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EvilJoven posted:Taribone don't get the Nicasio+ it's a stinker of a bike. The four corners is also not all that great. The 700C Nicasios are OK but just OK. The higher end models are thru axle with a carbon fork and a marked improvement. Gestalt is overall better IMO. I'll be honest aside from the stupid seatpost the aluminum giant revolts are all better bang for your buck around here. YMMV where you are. Thanks for the feedback on the budget steel bikes! I'd already kind-of talked myself out of the Nicasio models. The 700C one comes with skinnier tires (30mm) than are on my Contend AR 3 (32mm), which is kind-of the opposite direction I want to go in. Really, from the gearing it comes with, I'm guessing it's more like a road bike that's been half-rear end converted to something resembling a gravel bike by people who know less about what a gravel bike should be than I do, and that's saying something. The 650B version gets better reviews, but that's not what I'm looking for just yet, as there are precious few actual MTB trails in my area. And the Four Corners looks kind-of neat, but it's main function is touring from what I can see and what I've been hearing, and that's not for me. Honestly, I wonder how the Giant would run on 30's or 28's? Would I need new wheels? Hmmm. The State All Road comes with 38's, the size that're on my Escape, which I know from experience gives me a better feel on rougher trails. And I can go up to 45's, the chunky tire on my old Cypress, which is even more capable in the rougher areas. And when I say "rougher," I'm mostly talking about degraded pavement and rough chipseal, not what most of y'all consider "gravel" conditions. Basically, it'll be a slow road bike with drops and that steel look that I really like, and it'll be able to handle some areas better than my Contend. I'd say it'll replace my Escape, but... c'mon, no it won't. I still like that bike a lot: it has very versatile gearing and is a really comfortable bike, even without cycling shorts, so it's good to take when I go camping. If it gets stolen or destroyed, I'll be sad, but I'll be $500 sad, not $1000 sad. meltie posted:You'd think that, but it's still got sub-model ranges within it to contain the 9-, 10- and 11- speed parts, and some levels of those are different (only 10+ speed RDs get a clutch, for example) so it's still a mess. If you were in the industry or a deep Shimano fan you'll have to memorise all the little details and gotchas still... So... why do this, then? Like, if they went down to one hub (or whatever; please forgive me, I still am learning about bicycle mechanics!) that could serve as the base for 8-, 9-, 10-, and 11-speed, sub-105-tier cassettes using parts designed to work in that type of system (like, spacers calibrated to deal with the different number of gears, and whatever else is involved), I would get that. Give them all a clutch, or give none of them a clutch, although that would put clutches in a spot where the low tier is the 105. I don't think I've ever ridden a bike with a clutch in it, so I don't know if that's good or bad, honestly. Seems like if a company wanted to go all-in with a truly modular hub setup that was usable for that wide a range of cassette types, I'd make it a separate line for people who just like tinkering and switching stuff up all the time. Pair it with some old-school friction shifters, which I hear don't really care how many gears you're running in the back, and you've got a Jack-of-all-Gears system for people who want that kind of thing.
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Afaik parts used to be much more interchangeable but that isn't how you make money off of rich dentists
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Slavvy posted:Afaik parts used to be much more interchangeable but that isn't how you make money off of rich dentists Remember when Shimano released an update that made Di2 MTB mechs incompatible with road shifters out of greed and spite?
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