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Failboattootoot posted:Moogle's are little shits but at least they aren't the sylphs or the pixies (just the pixies, nu mou and amaro A+ good friends). I will not hear a word said against Feo Ul
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barclayed posted:I have a problem. They've always been cutesy characters since their first appearance in the franchise, though not always as much as they are in XIV. It kind of boils down to how much of a tolerance you have for anime comic relief mascot characters. If it helps, after Heavensward they don't show up in the story all that often. On the other hand,
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The HW Moogles are if nothing else a good source of crafting experience which is important for getting through the Hell of HW crafting. That said unlocking that tribe involves an absurdly long quest chain that you probably should just look up.
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YggiDee posted:Moogles are riding on a lot of goodwill from previous Final Fantasy games. FFVI has Mog, who rocks, can dance, and can equip the charm that prevents encounters for cave-diving. And it more or less opens with a group of cave-dwelling moogles saving you from imperial troops, and you can strip their equipment on the way out to get some early weapons and armour. It will take a lot for me to hate moogles after that. Exactly what I would have said. Per the understood phenomenon that Your First FF Was the Best One I favor FF6 and Mog is a legend. Kupoppo!
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Maxwell Lord posted:The HW Moogles are if nothing else a good source of crafting experience which is important for getting through the Hell of HW crafting. Counterpoint: Ishgard Restoration exists.
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The guy from Dark Knight 50-60 hates 'em too. I find them okay in small doses. Like, the concept of a pack of long-lived faerie critters that play tricks on people and skive off their work and constantly get in trouble and have to be bailed out by the WoL is pretty good. Every time a moogle annoys me, I remember that I can just let a FATE play to completion and leave one in the belly of a dinosaur.
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The best Moogle is one who deserves far more screen time, Nutsy
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Running into players who still have never done the moogle fight is always fun. Pure wtf is this poo poo reactions.
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Kyrosiris posted:Counterpoint: Ishgard Restoration exists. Honestly not as good for XP and managing all the materials for that can be a pain.
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Wonder what this is about  https://mobile.twitter.com/SOKENsquareenix/status/1630680295350611968
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Just turn in poo poo from the marketboard to your GC.
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Flavahbeast posted:Wonder what this is about That's concerning. Maybe he meant like taxing? I'm going off twitter translate
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He wasn't around to meet Alex Moukala, so it's not the Manderville. https://twitter.com/alex_moukala/status/1630654646132850689 Maybe it's Manderville withdrawal.
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Soken's been working on ff16, most likely he's worn out. Its a big project.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Honestly not as good for XP and managing all the materials for that can be a pain. Well, yeah. Something you can do infinitely is less efficient than a daily limited one. But pro: never do moogles.
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Aphrodite posted:Well, yeah. Something you can do infinitely is less efficient than a daily limited one. But then you never get the fluff mount!
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The restoration is incredible exp for time invested and the material management is really just a matter of how much gil you're willing to spend on the endeavor.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Honestly not as good for XP Gamerescape says that the top tier moogle dailies are worth 282k, which is only slightly higher than a base collectability level 40 restoration turn-in (234k XP). If you can hit tier 2 (which is easy with a little gear and a macro) that jumps to 460k a turn-in, which is over a daily and a half of XP. E: And for completeness sake, tier three collectability is nearly a million XP per. Kyrosiris fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Mar 1, 2023 |
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TheWorldsaStage posted:But then you never get the fluff mount! IMO people should do content even if it's not as efficient for leveling as something added afterward. Unlocking the Moogle quests is definitely a pain in the rear end though
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The difference between restoration and moogles is that you don't need to be a good crafter to do moogles
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Alxprit posted:The difference between restoration and moogles is that you don't need to be a good crafter to do moogles You really really don't need to be to do Restoration either. I just press buttons and hit max just fine. And I am 100% positive macros that do it for you exist
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Yeah, Restoration crafts are eminently macroable and not particularly hard, save for possibly the expert crafts, which aren't relevant to leveling anyway. (Those might also be macroable at this point, tbh? They're balanced around being hard with level 80 gear, not modern BiS.)
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<<Pom Friend>>
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Yeah I leveled everything with the restoration and hit two buttons a craft: the first macro, and the second macro. If you don't want to spend the time/gil on the mats then yeah, do your dailies, but otherwise restoration is more exp a pop and also give you glam and emotes and mounts just like Moogles and any other crafting tribe does.
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iPodschun posted:Also would miss out on the Moogle Dance and Moonlift Dance as well. Step on a moogle today! 
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iPodschun posted:IMO people should do content even if it's not as efficient for leveling as something added afterward. Unlocking the Moogle quests is definitely a pain in the rear end though Oh sure, do them for the sake of doing them by all means. Just, Maxwell Lord seemed to be suggesting that they were the best way through HW levels for crafting, which they emphatically are not. Hell, when I was leveling my crafters in 5.3 I had 20-60 down to like an hour and a half, tops. Even came out net positive on gil from leveling everything to 80 by selling scratch-off prizes.  ImpAtom posted:And I am 100% positive macros that do it for you exist Teamcraft in fact has a whole guide with macros at every level bracket.
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I love moogles! Their fur is so fluffy and soft! Feels great against my knuckles! 
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Moogles are trash but at least they're better than namazu.
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No, no! Namazu are endearing cause while they're a bunch of useless idiots they at least aren't malicious about it. They're just kind of dumb, but they're earnest and they try damnit! Moogles meanwhile are just lazy and jerks. [edit] Except Gyodo. Next time that little poo poo double crosses me, I'm arranging a meeting for him with Cirina. Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Mar 1, 2023 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YlTeJ2BLI4
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i like moogles. i think they're funny when they're being annoying. appreciate their hustle of getting the wol to do their chores for them
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Yeah namazu are greedy, stupid, uncoordinated, little bastards but at least they're not lazy and cruel like moogles are. They're lazy and cruel in entirely different, more amusing ways.
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Kwyndig posted:Yeah namazu are greedy, stupid, uncoordinated, little bastards but at least they're not lazy and cruel like moogles are. They're lazy and cruel in entirely different, more amusing ways, yes yes.
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Detheros posted:Moogles are trash but at least they're better than namazu. I wouldn't even say the moogles are trash but  If the namazu wanted me to like them, the first and most noteworthy one of them you meet shouldn't have been Gyodo. 
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Moogles, Fae and Namazu are all slightly different degree of malicious and dumbass.
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Moogles are fine. They just require copious amounts of drugs and bribes if you want them to actually do anything. Far more drugs and bribes than I was expecting. Namazu are also fine, and I love that their cutscenes are the closest the WoL gets to turning down quests. Pixies and Fuath, I personally dislike them but I appreciate that they're culturally accurate, it's a better representation of non-Japanese mythology than I have ever seen in a JRPG. Nu mou I do not understand why they are dogs. Unrelated, 
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For me, part of what makes the Namazu so fun is wondering how those dumb little fish have managed to survive for so long. And yes yes, their sheer earnestness as they go about their shenanigans. They have such an honest and oblivious sincerity to their stupidity, whereas moogles are often quite aware they're being dumb little shits and try to pretend otherwise.
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Dareon posted:
My friends call this "dying to damage"
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Dareon posted:Moogles are fine. They just require copious amounts of drugs and bribes if you want them to actually do anything. Far more drugs and bribes than I was expecting. Shoulda hit Second Wind 
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