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http://skrekkogle.com/projects/still-file/ , incidentally.
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So they made the UPN logo, where's the SGI logo e: lol I remember thinking this image was rad as all hell Data Graham has a new favorite as of 23:59 on Feb 26, 2023 |
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# ? Feb 26, 2023 23:45 |
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I may have idly folded the Sgi logo out of a paper clip more than once.
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# ? Feb 26, 2023 23:53 |
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god the Voyagers were neat looking machines
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# ? Feb 27, 2023 00:02 |
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I didn't get a picture but the other day I saw a flatbed full of furniture and boxes and one of the boxes was one of those old cattle printed gateway? boxes and it was a real blast from the past.
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# ? Feb 27, 2023 20:24 |
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Gimme: And some vintage tech ads for you: This one seems like a threat
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# ? Mar 1, 2023 01:24 |
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Submit your sales order before Zod!
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# ? Mar 1, 2023 04:03 |
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WHERE DID YOU WRITE THESE TPS REPORTS? ON A FARM?!
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# ? Mar 1, 2023 04:06 |
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This dude obviously works for Zod Kitchens. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3ABRN9UKLo
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# ? Mar 1, 2023 07:05 |
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ASCII porn did take forever to download.
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 04:44 |
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This isnt super old, but look at the cooler on this Pentium 4 Extreme 965, which if I recall was the final, and fastest P4 Extreme before they moved on to Core2. Its wild how much cooling these needed, but a 3.73GHZ dual core CPU was pretty impressive back then
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 19:46 |
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Intel thought they were going to build 10ghz versions of the P4 and that the massive heat would just stop being an issue somehow...
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 20:01 |
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Sweevo posted:Intel thought they were going to build 10ghz versions of the P4 and that the massive heat would just stop being an issue somehow... Process shrinks, I think? I kind of wonder how fast you could make a Netburst CPU on a modern process.
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 20:16 |
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Computer viking posted:Process shrinks, I think? I kind of wonder how fast you could make a Netburst CPU on a modern process. Netburst was never going to scale up well - once the pentium m (dothan?) came out I knew they would beef it up for desktops and kill the p4 - the power of a fairly low clockspeed M was nearly as good as the 2.4ghz+ p4's.
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 20:30 |
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did they really call any of the dual-core cpus "pentium 4"? i thought they went with "pentium D" for those, and then the extreme edition was its own thing on top of that
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 20:33 |
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Voltage posted:Netburst was never going to scale up well - once the pentium m (dothan?) came out I knew they would beef it up for desktops and kill the p4 - the power of a fairly low clockspeed M was nearly as good as the 2.4ghz+ p4's. Well, no - but I think that's the hope they had at the time.
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 20:50 |
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P6 had just scaled from 450mHz to 1.4 gHz in space of 2.5 years, Intel was expecting Netburst to scale at similar speeds and amounts. Jokes on them, Netburst shat it's pants at around 3 gHz, but the Core architecture was initially a P6 derivative that scaled like scalded cat. As I understand it today, frequency scaling is dead because we're hitting the limit on how fast electricity can go and still produce low enough heat as a byproduct that air cooling is still viable.
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# ? Mar 3, 2023 10:09 |
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It's not entirely dead, though. A Ryzen 1800X has a base clock of 3.6GHz and boosts to 4.1GHz, while a 7950X has a base of 4.5GHz and scales to 5.7GHz. It's nothing like the late 90s, but we are creeping towards consumer cores boosting to 6GHz. e: What do you know. The top spec intel of this generation, the 13900KS, lists a max turbo speed of 6.0 GHz. Computer viking has a new favorite as of 11:21 on Mar 3, 2023 |
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I very briefly had a Pentium-D 940 that I had running at about 3.8ghz. I recall being largely unimpressed with its E6600 replacement although the specs were faster. If nothing else that encouraged me to jump to a Q6600 early and I skipped the whole dual-core/quad-core debates by default.
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# ? Mar 3, 2023 15:47 |
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I still have one of two of those goon-recommended Dell Q6600s I bought in 2008. Bought one for myself and one for my folks. They used theirs for over ten years no problem. They only upgraded after they complained about the fans kicking on so often, but otherwise it still did everything they needed it to.
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# ? Mar 3, 2023 17:05 |
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New CRD, bless https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO4zQM7nzEQ
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# ? Mar 3, 2023 19:59 |
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It's been fun seeing him talk about "old" tv production gear that we only started phasing out here a decade ago if that
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# ? Mar 3, 2023 20:13 |
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All you really have to say about Netburst is that Intel came up with the BTX standard because heat sinks were getting so drat heavy and using so much seating pressure that they were at the tensile strength limit of motherboards. I saw plenty of motherboards around that time that had a definite curve to them because of the heat sink bolted up to them. The architecture just ran too damned hot, any way you looked at it. Intel solved the heat problem not with a new standard, but by building more efficient processors in the first place.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2FMqsPnh5M
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# ? Mar 4, 2023 02:54 |
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Voltage posted:Netburst was never going to scale up well - once the pentium m (dothan?) came out I knew they would beef it up for desktops and kill the p4 - the power of a fairly low clockspeed M was nearly as good as the 2.4ghz+ p4's. Wasn't the Pentium M actually derived from the Pentium III and work done at the Intel facility in Israel? That's just what my memory says - I didn't try to double-check it.
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# ? Mar 4, 2023 06:42 |
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Another good youtuber I enjoy the content of. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPadFkDI3CI
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# ? Mar 4, 2023 12:43 |
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Wasn't the Pentium M actually derived from the Pentium III and work done at the Intel facility in Israel? That's just what my memory says - I didn't try to double-check it. I don't remember which facility did it for sure, but the architecture stuff is accurate. Since Netburst was a dead end they went right back to build on the P6 family.
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# ? Mar 4, 2023 19:03 |
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IIRC the Pentium M was literally a PIII with the P4's DDR FSB and it's otherwise excellent branch prediction bolted on. It also took advantage of process shrinks to gain overall speed, first 90nm then 65 nm. It still boggles my mind that twenty years ago we were at 130nm process, but my current CPU is on 14nm, 5nm is used today, and 3nm/2nm is in the works.
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Humphreys posted:Another good youtuber I enjoy the content of. Yeah Colin, just like Adrian Black, just seem to be a really nice person
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You Am I posted:Yeah Colin, just like Adrian Black, just seem to be a really nice person I want to email Adrian just to tell him how nice he seems. He is genuinely lovely
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c0burn posted:I want to email Adrian just to tell him how nice he seems. He is genuinely lovely Does he still refuse to wear a grounding bracelet, thus destroying every chip he touches with his Electro-finger and wondering "how on earth this chip is now dead, too?!?"?
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 08:44 |
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Now that you say that, Adrian does experience an unusually high amount of dead RAM At least he doesnt do the 8-bit guy thing where his gross incompetence (and his gun) kills everything he touches
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Now that you say that, Adrian does experience an unusually high amount of dead RAM I just remembered the video where Curious Marc zaps the ROM of his first computer, by delicately touching it. But then he just makes another one. But Adrian often finding chips he already tested as working turning out not working leads me to think he's exactly as bad as Ate poo poo Guy. e: I don't think Marc makes a habit of not wearing a grounding thingy.
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 15:50 |
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If 8-bit Guy was competent with hardware we wouldn't have the LGR gag where he was showing a super rare IBM new in box and then turned around to see 8-bit Guy holding a dremel and paperclips. I've never killed any electronics with static, even when the humidity gets really low. I think some people are just really staticy.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:But Adrian often finding chips he already tested as working turning out not working leads me to think he's exactly as bad as Ate poo poo Guy. lol Adrian is nowhere near as bad
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 15:57 |
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Grounding is something armchair experts obsess over and blame for every failure, but it's actually not that common to damage things. Sure if you're handling rare or expensive parts then why not, but for fixing everyday electronics it's not something you really need to care about. You don't destroy chips by touching them, those old computers probably got used by a kid in a nylon tracksuit sitting on a nylon carpet for years and they didn't break every time they were handled.
Sweevo has a new favorite as of 16:33 on Mar 6, 2023 |
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Perssonally never had an issue with grounding, but may be worth it with older hardware. For some content here is a supposedly broken (listing said some artifacts) stb voodoo 2 12mb i picked for $50 - going to go over it with a magnifying glass and hopefully find a bad pin or something: I had this exact model of card way back when I was a kid, upgraded my gateway pentium 166 with it, playing halflife in glide at 800x600 was one of the great gaming memories of my life. Voltage has a new favorite as of 17:02 on Mar 6, 2023 |
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I'm very careful with it, when it comes to chips that aren't mounted to boards, and dual gate mosfets. I've never really bothered with complete PC equipment, though i do make an effort to always grab cards by the metal GND parts while holding the PC's cabinet - and to not touch any of the edge connectors of a card.
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I have never popped anything despite also never grounding myself, although a friend once sold me a graphics card and then handed it over wrapped in a plastic shopping bag
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