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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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lobster shirt posted:well i suppose russia's ability to continue funding the war is also something of an open question. while it's clear that western sanctions have not had the desired effect i don't think russia has the ability to stay in this war indefinitely either. wars are expensive. special military operations, also, are expensive. makes sense - my gut tells me China has a lot of incentive to back stop Russia if they asked pretty please.
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Mar 1, 2023 04:48
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Mean Baby posted:so as someone who only tangentially follows the war, it seems like Ukraine’s best opportunity to negotiate was a few months ago. It seems like Russia can just play the long game and wait for funding for Ukraine to run out to get maximum concessions. is this right? A year ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_peace_negotiations The chance for some kind of peace was between march/may of last year. Russia is gearing up for a long war. Spinning up the military industrial complex, army reforms, all that stuff. It will take years though. I saw someone mention that US/NATO threatened at least 3 years of war for Russia. Which makes sense, Biden will still be president for 2 more years. Even if Trump gets elected, it would take time to go against the momentum of military supplies being sent to Ukraine.
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Mar 1, 2023 04:51
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Mean Baby posted:so as someone who only tangentially follows the war, it seems like Ukraine’s best opportunity to negotiate was a few months ago. It seems like Russia can just play the long game and wait for funding for Ukraine to run out to get maximum concessions. is this right? Don't actually know. Ukraine has had a pretty firm "we're taking it all back, no negotiating" policy. We can't really know how OK Russia is with the current pace or what they would actually settle for if Ukraine came to the negotiating table. Since Ukraine's been hardline no negotiation, there hasn't been any negotiation, so we don't really know how firm Russia's demands are. I mean at minimum I'd assume it'd be the original Crima recognition, independent Luhansk/Donetsk. I assume a land bridge connecting Crimea is also necessary? Don't know. I think Russia's last statement was no plans to negotiate at this time, but that'd probably change if Ukraine changed it's stance. The "Chinese Peace Proposal" that got some news is uh, not really a proposal. https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/zxxx_662805/202302/t20230224_11030713.html.
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Mar 1, 2023 04:51
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Did it attract a mate?
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Mar 1, 2023 04:52
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irl arma hotdogging helo insert pilot spacetoaster posted:Did it attract a mate? chinooks only do that when they're in distress etc etc
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Mar 1, 2023 04:54
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Mean Baby posted:so as someone who only tangentially follows the war, it seems like Ukraine’s best opportunity to negotiate was a few months ago. It seems like Russia can just play the long game and wait for funding for Ukraine to run out to get maximum concessions. is this right? russia has gotta win before the Abrams arrive or they are toast
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Mar 1, 2023 05:02
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CODChimera posted:russia has gotta win before the Abrams arrive or they are toast 
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Mar 1, 2023 05:03
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Mean Baby posted:so as someone who only tangentially follows the war, it seems like Ukraine’s best opportunity to negotiate was a few months ago. It seems like Russia can just play the long game and wait for funding for Ukraine to run out to get maximum concessions. is this right? speng31b posted:Russia can technically do that, but also has a lower tolerance for loss because the war is not existential for them. So yeah technically but will they? they've said they consider ukraine in NATO to be existential tho. i think russia thinks it can handle a long war more than the West, which is who they're really up against (assuming it stays as a proxy war and we don't get NATO boots on the ground). assuming Western aid dries up, ukraine either capitulates or we get some kind of miserable afghanistan situation. i don't think russia wants to hold western ukraine (galicia), but would accept a demilitarized rump state. imo, ukraine's best possible future involves them cutting some sort of deal very loving soon where they get to keep access to the black sea through odesa, but it's really tough when merkel, poroshenko and hollande are all saying minsk was delaying tactic to arm ukraine, so i suspect any peace plan would have to involve some kind of weapons inspection verification, maybe managed by turkey + a BRICS/SCO state?
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Mar 1, 2023 05:05
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https://twitter.com/TimothyDSnyder/status/1630629116905963523?s=20
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Mar 1, 2023 05:18
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So I've never seen it discussed here but does anyone else check out of reading articles whenever they mention the phrase "illegal war" or did you develop like a cognitive callus where you just don't see it anymore
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Mar 1, 2023 05:20
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6jjH8O-UUs
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Mar 1, 2023 05:23
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love 2 watch mackinder world island theory unfold in real time 
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Mar 1, 2023 05:23
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Leandros posted:So I've never seen it discussed here but does anyone else check out of reading articles whenever they mention the phrase "illegal war" or did you develop like a cognitive callus where you just don't see it anymore i always write it in if i don't see it in front of war. i can't actually remember reading it much so i probably just got a callus.
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Mar 1, 2023 05:25
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siri pull up the number of times mainstream american articles called americas invasion of iraq illegal oh really? zero? huh
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Mar 1, 2023 05:37
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Leandros posted:So I've never seen it discussed here but does anyone else check out of reading articles whenever they mention the phrase "illegal war" or did you develop like a cognitive callus where you just don't see it anymore I actually don’t mind illegal on a technicality that under certain laws it actually is illegal, now whether either party is under the jurisdiction of the applicable international laws is less clear. Even less clear is who will prosecute and administer punishment. It’s when they put ‘unprovoked’ or ‘unjustified’ that I zone out. Like all of a sudden causality in the universe has ceased and the war sprang into being. You don’t have to agree with the justification or think the provocation justifies the war, but there is a relational line between Maidan, Minsk, and an ongoing civil war, that led to Russias illegal invasion. It doesn’t even necessarily make Ukraine not the more-wronged party to admit this, but message discipline has to come before reality. e: for example under Ukrainian law it is illegal for Russian troops to engage in unauthorized military activities in Ukraine. Textbook illegality, open and shut case if they press charges. Turtle Watch has issued a correction as of 05:43 on Mar 1, 2023 |
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Mar 1, 2023 05:38
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i condemn russias invasion of ukraine but even im not stupid enough to think this was unprovoked it was super duper provoked
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Mar 1, 2023 05:41
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Leandros posted:So I've never seen it discussed here but does anyone else check out of reading articles whenever they mention the phrase "illegal war" or did you develop like a cognitive callus where you just don't see it anymore Turtle Watch posted:It’s when they put ‘unprovoked’ or ‘unjustified’ that I zone out. makes me twitchy
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Mar 1, 2023 05:42
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thinking about some legal wars like iraq, afghanistan, saudi intervention in yemen, everything in both congo wars and nodding along.
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Mar 1, 2023 05:42
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Leandros posted:So I've never seen it discussed here but does anyone else check out of reading articles whenever they mention the phrase "illegal war" or did you develop like a cognitive callus where you just don't see it anymore All wars are illegal unless your commando squad has a permission slip from the hall monitor.
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Mar 1, 2023 05:49
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ItohRespectArmy posted:thinking about some legal wars like iraq, afghanistan, saudi intervention in yemen, everything in both congo wars and nodding along. The Nazis also codified all the horrible they did. The reichs all hail from a strong tradition of laws.
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Mar 1, 2023 05:49
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The war on Christmas was justified.
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Mar 1, 2023 05:51
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Also if you get captured and taken to an interrogation cellar with car batteries, roofing nails and other fun things in store don't sweat it. Just tell your interrogator "my mum told me not to get dirty and I have to be home by 5". They'll just let you go on the spot. Works every time.
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Mar 1, 2023 05:52
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mlmp08 posted:The war on Christmas was justified. Correct, there was a justification claimed by at least one party in the declaration of war.
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Mar 1, 2023 05:54
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mlmp08 posted:There's also the argument that the best time to negotiate may have been years ago, but I assume you meant once the war started. They did twice in a city called Minsk and the Euros admitted their side did it in bad faith.
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Mar 1, 2023 05:54
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Leandros posted:So I've never seen it discussed here but does anyone else check out of reading articles whenever they mention the phrase "illegal war" or did you develop like a cognitive callus where you just don't see it anymore regular psychic hygiene is important 
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Mar 1, 2023 06:00
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White supremacy vs white superiority
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Mar 1, 2023 06:15
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bagual posted:not really, it's just korea going "oh we're totally still pacifist and not providing ammo to an active war zone, we're providing ammo to our allies the us who is in turn providing it to their ally, ukraine, but that has nothing to do with us did you read the loving article? they're like "yo, you said that batch was for you, and you gave it to Ukr. Now you want another?"
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Mar 1, 2023 06:26
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" and hoping other countries don't notice or care (very likely)
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Slavvy posted:White supremacy vs white superiority Me and da boyz iz all about greenskin superiority.
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Mar 1, 2023 06:54
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BrotherJayne posted:did you read the loving article? do you really believe the korean gov was fooled? Where else would the US army need 100000 shells on short notice? I assume the US was paying for the ammo and they're like "sure whatever, still not aiding ukraine directly tho" going for seconds is kinda forcing the issue but i'd say the deal will still go thru, SK military is very aligned to US interests
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Mar 1, 2023 06:59
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100,000 rounds is what, enough for 3 weeks of shelling?
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Mar 1, 2023 07:02
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bagual posted:going for seconds is kinda forcing the issue but i'd say the deal will still go thru, SK is a slave to the US
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Mar 1, 2023 07:16
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kim jong un heard shells and ate them all because he thought they were peanuts lol
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Mar 1, 2023 07:19
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"illegal war" was a phrase that was used once upon a time to describe the invasion of Iraq, but it's a very Democrat-brained mentality because it assumes that invading would have been just peachy had it gone through the right committees and floor votes it's like when Democrats criticized Trump for launching missile strikes on Syria by saying that he didn't have Congressional approval: it completely sidesteps the question of whether Congress would have given him that approval anyway, and whether Congressional approval makes it okay to blow up parts of Syria
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Mar 1, 2023 07:23
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i dont know what the deal with the john mcintyre guy is, but he repeatedly says "im a communist", describes taking back america in a way that doesn't sound quite right. he also apparently brought a a fancy version of his... high school diploma with him? 6:33 in the video. he apparently did a 2-year enlistment, which I guess they did make a thing, but i've never seen someone reminisce about their enlistment with a smile like that. this boy ain't right. "We've gotta fight nazism everywhere we go, even in America." Like, even in America? That fat texan guy who had been living in Donbass made sense. this guy sounds weird as gently caress and the situation he's in makes no sense. i would not let this guy into my polycule. Starting at 14:45, he said he got known as a whistle blower (while trying to join azov?), and then fucks off to odessa, and begs his family for $300 to get from odessa, to chisinau, moldova where he "made contact" and got his visa, to istanbul, to moscow. why did he bring his high school diploma Cuttlefush has issued a correction as of 08:22 on Mar 1, 2023 |
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Mar 1, 2023 08:12
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bagual posted:do you really believe the korean gov was fooled? Where else would the US army need 100000 shells on short notice? I assume the US was paying for the ammo and they're like "sure whatever, still not aiding ukraine directly tho" the plan initially published was we would be sending our standing stocks to Ukraine, and replenishing with the SK munitions
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Mar 1, 2023 08:15
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Cuttlefush posted:i dont know what the deal with the john mcintyre guy is, but he repeatedly says "im a communist", describes taking back america in a way that doesn't sound quite right. he also apparently brought a a fancy version of his... high school diploma with him? 6:33 in the video. he apparently did a 2-year enlistment, which I guess they did make a thing, but i've never seen someone reminisce about their enlistment with a smile like that. Just keep that man out of Dallas.
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Mar 1, 2023 08:33
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Turtle Watch posted:Just keep that man out of Dallas. i mean, i wouldn't have a problem with it. but yeah lol that did cross my mind a few times. actually the commonalities with oswald are pretty funny. although at least oswald went "im a communist" and actually went to a communist country. Cuttlefush has issued a correction as of 08:37 on Mar 1, 2023 |
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Mar 1, 2023 08:34
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so apparently wagner took out the literal Boris Johnson Brigade:
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Mar 1, 2023 09:34
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That is just almost the Bretonnia coat of arms.BrotherJayne posted:did you read the loving article? I think it was supposed to be a fig-leaf thing: "you send your shells to Ukraine and we will replace them" but the US just sent all the shells. Obviously, South Korea doesn't want to piss off Russia too much because they know Russia has the ability to open up trade and tech transfers to the north. It is why also why if there was an actual fight over Taiwan, SK would probably just hunker down rather than fight an apocalyptic war with their neighbors. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 09:44 on Mar 1, 2023 |
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Mar 1, 2023 09:39
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Comrade Koba posted:so apparently wagner took out the literal Boris Johnson Brigade: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24th_Mechanized_Brigade_(Ukraine)?useskin=vector apparently this quote:The brigade saw its first combat in almost 70 years during the war in Donbas from 2014. Its Soviet honorifics were progressively removed and replaced with the King Daniel of Galicia honorific following the beginning of the war in Donbas.
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