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"shut up, kimbal! mom knows I'm the smart one!"
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EricBauman posted:remember last week when they said the same thing about the new factory in germany but walked that back a few days later because actually it turned out that us subsidies are too good to manufacture anything elsewhere.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:lmao it's mom from Futurama, complete with idiot sons gently caress I knew I recognized that look from somewhere, you're exactly right.
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LMAO all the business articles about this fuckup of an event better be funny to read. "We pass the costs on to buyers now!" Tesla Mars Catalog, huddled around an iPad, crying oh God it's beautiful! "Hydrogen is hard to make, we figured out that to be a Class N7 space faring race we need to frack the water" "Cybertruck will use hydrogen cold jets to power a new battery chemistry"
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I like musk suddenly being big on hydrogen just because all the EV early adopters hate hydrogen so it's funny
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i'm assuming that by using 48V it means safety regulators classify it as low voltage (usually it's anything under 50V) so they can cheap out on safety systems or something cuz i can't imagine another reason why you'd want to lower voltages for a thing that uses tens of kilowatts constantly
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Mar 2, 2023 14:54
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:you missed the best cybertruck pic: sandy munro still riding that poo poo hard, i see i seriously hope they drove at least two dump trucks full of cash up to the guy's house for this kind of debasement of his professional reputation
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Mar 2, 2023 14:55
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can't imagine why the suspension needs to be larger than any other truck on the market certainly not because it weighs more than an aircraft carrier or anything
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Mar 2, 2023 14:59
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It must have taken a lot of effort to make the front seating area look cramped while also wasting a ton of space.
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i'm curious both how much weight those can actually handle, and how long it will take for the seals/gaskets to go watching the first person to try to actually load the bed blow their suspension out like stomping on a juice box would be hilarious.
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Mar 2, 2023 15:01
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infernal machines posted:i'm curious both how much weight those can actually handle, and how long it will take for the seals/gaskets to go my wife's always bringing up that one kid that had a chair's gas piston explode and spear them in the rear end whenever I sit down kinda hard on a chair, i'd imagine it'd be something like that
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Mar 2, 2023 15:02
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i don't understand, she's saying that to prevent you from dropping on the chair too hard?
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this is the first time i've actually tried to look up the story and i can't really find any evidence it's either fake or real after 5 seconds of googling, there's just a picture of an exploded office chair and rumors. however i did find out that reddit has a very active board where people just discuss goddamn office chairs https://www.reddit.com/r/OfficeChairs/comments/mwpjl9/is_the_gas_cylinder_explosion_story_bullshit/ mostly posting because i really like this dude and his flair 
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infernal machines posted:i'm curious both how much weight those can actually handle, and how long it will take for the seals/gaskets to go good luck with that tiny rear end cargo area, you'd have to use depleted uranium
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infernal machines posted:i don't understand, she's saying that to prevent you from dropping on the chair too hard? well the kid supposedly died so it wouldn't be the most fun rear end-spearing i've had in my life
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Mar 2, 2023 15:08
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Shame Boy posted:well the kid supposedly died so it wouldn't be the most fun rear end-spearing i've had in my life I mean if it was the only one it technically would be
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Mar 2, 2023 15:37
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:I mean if it was the only one it technically would be buddy i'm named Shame Boy, do you really think it would be the only one?
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Mar 2, 2023 15:41
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It's good to have assspearations in life
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Shame Boy posted:buddy i'm named Shame Boy, do you really think it would be the only one? disappointingly pounded in the butt by my office chair in an unfortunate pounding accident
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Shame Boy posted:i'm assuming that by using 48V it means safety regulators classify it as low voltage (usually it's anything under 50V) so they can cheap out on safety systems or something cuz i can't imagine another reason why you'd want to lower voltages for a thing that uses tens of kilowatts constantly the battery, inverter, and motors will remain hv. they'll be replacing 12v (hvac, lights, computers, cameras, etc) with 48v to reduce wiring gauge thickness. it'll save money for tesla but it'll cost more for customers to maintain so that's pretty much on brand for them
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Nfcknblvbl posted:the battery, inverter, and motors will remain hv. they'll be replacing 12v (hvac, lights, computers, cameras, etc) with 48v to reduce wiring gauge thickness. it'll save money for tesla but it'll cost more for customers to maintain so that's pretty much on brand for them tbf there's not a company on this planet that won't do their best to pass on any cost they can off onto the customer. it's just that most companies don't shout it from the rooftops because their customers won't gladly gargle their piss and ask for more.
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48v is actually really cool, but car manufacturers have formed consortiums and been in the process of working together to migrate to it for like over a decade. He of course doesn't care about repairability or interoperability so he's taking credit for being the 'pioneer' of it. I hate him and wish he would get in a FSD tesla on an autobahn lined with fire trucks.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:the battery, inverter, and motors will remain hv. they'll be replacing 12v (hvac, lights, computers, cameras, etc) with 48v to reduce wiring gauge thickness. it'll save money for tesla but it'll cost more for customers to maintain so that's pretty much on brand for them ohhhh that makes a lot more sense, ok
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Nfcknblvbl posted:the battery, inverter, and motors will remain hv. they'll be replacing 12v (hvac, lights, computers, cameras, etc) with 48v to reduce wiring gauge thickness. it'll save money for tesla but it'll cost more for customers to maintain so that's pretty much on brand for them I thought there was a general industry-wide move towards 48V, new cars already have an increasing number of 48V parts and at some point they're going to switch over the battery and small electronics too. https://www.autoweek.com/news/a36331077/48-volt-hybrid-system-explained/ https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/a32883694/mercedes-amg-electric-turbocharger/ This stuff is showing up in non-luxury stuff like V6 Dodge trucks and Mazdas new SUVs too.
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Twerk from Home posted:I thought there was a general industry-wide move towards 48V, new cars already have an increasing number of 48V parts and at some point they're going to switch over the battery and small electronics too. those are drive-train related power systems. i'm not aware of passenger vehicles using 48v dome lights atm
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the big sticking point is that you won't be able to directly accessorize a 48v system with 12v things, but it's 2023, and i can go on the internet and get a DC-DC buck converter that will eat 48v at 5 amps and output 12v at 20 amps for my ham radio, and it's the size of a pack of smokes, costs $20 and has 95% efficiency.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:those are drive-train related power systems. i'm not aware of passenger vehicles using 48v dome lights atm There's a lot of LED interior lighting in cars, which is already doing a voltage conversion because LEDs need a driver to manage power for them and could just as easily take in 48V as 12V.
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Twerk from Home posted:There's a lot of LED interior lighting in cars, which is already doing a voltage conversion because LEDs need a driver to manage power for them and could just as easily take in 48V as 12V. sounds like its not a big deal then
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Mar 2, 2023 16:43
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POTS has 48V, no one really uses that anymore. instant country wide charging network!
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fins posted:POTS has 48V, no one really uses that anymore. instant country wide charging network!
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wait why does 48v cost more to maintain
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Elder Postsman posted:wait why does 48v cost more to maintain i assumed you'd need to buy 48v electronics if you had to replace anything but apparently everything has dc-dc converters built in any way
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Nfcknblvbl posted:i assumed you'd need to buy 48v electronics if you had to replace anything but apparently everything has dc-dc converters built in any way i think it's pretty optimistic to assume they can accept 48V as they are now
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Twerk from Home posted:There's a lot of LED interior lighting in cars, which is already doing a voltage conversion because LEDs need a driver to manage power for them and could just as easily take in 48V as 12V. any usb ports will need a voltage convertor as well those 12v cigarette lighter outlets are a terrible design anyways and were never intended to be used in the way they are now
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mine still has a cig lighter socket but its tucked way up on the firewall under the dash on the passenger side. right where that garbage should be
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To summarize: 1. 48v automotive electrical systems are a good idea when you're replacing engine driven accessories with electric ones. 2. Other automakers are doing them as well for similar reasons. 3. Other automakers are making the switch slowly and carefully because despite the benefits the majority of the automotive supply chain is built around 12v. 4. Tesla doesn't believe in slow and careful and will probably provide many "love the car, though" moments when they ship it with little to no testing.
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https://twitter.com/sokane1/status/1631283739991867392 good, but also lmao
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