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Rust Martialis posted:Goddamn I prefer the way my salary sounds in SEK. May I recommend Iceland? Some of our friends moved there and their kid is selling some football lottery tickets for 1000 kroner each. But the important thing is not actually the number, it's the difference between the biggest number and the smallest number.
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jeebus bob posted:Nobody should be paid more than 60.000 DKK a month. I agree vehemently, but A LOT of people are paid that. You'd be hard pressed to find a a group in management, engineering, IT, finance/accounting, law, chemists, pharmacists, dentists, doctors, psychologists, veterinarians, where the top income quartile doesn't earn 60k+, many of those the median income is more than 60k. It's pretty bonkers.
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BonHair posted:Almost like there's a correlation between fun cushy jobs and being overpaid... As long as you're sufficiently removed from working on real people or problems that is. I assure you nothing I do at work has real world consequences for anyone
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Esran posted:Public opinion seems to be strongly against this and it's being forced through anyway. I've noticed that when people complain about this being undemocratic, party soldiers love popping in with an Half a million people signed a petition and somehow it didn't matter. 
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about how democracy doesn't mean doing what voters want, it's totally cool for politicians to pull poo poo like this out of a hat post-election, and if people don't like it, they can just vote the bastards out. In 3.5 years.
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SplitSoul posted:Half a million people signed a petition and somehow it didn't matter.
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the fosen windmill protest was nice. decent attendance, considering it's in the middle of winter break and also was organised less than 48 hours before the actual event, a pretty tight programme, relevant cultural stuff (joik!) and some actually pretty good chants and speeches. got some news coverage, too. i really do think that it may be possible to force the government's retreat on this issue.
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:With the current crop of thieves in charge, it wouldn't have mattered if 5.6 million people signed the petitions. Yeah, petitions are generally worthless.
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The only effective type of petitions is the French kind. Circa 1780.
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I've noticed that the Swedish Presidency of the EU has not been a total disaster so far? Even the messaging has been pretty consistent when compared to national stuff. Is it all just handled by seasoned EU bureaucrats, while Ulf sits most of it out?
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Feliday Melody posted:I've noticed that the Swedish Presidency of the EU has not been a total disaster so far? Even the messaging has been pretty consistent when compared to national stuff. Whenever Ulf gets too close, an aid starts waving the NATO emblem in front of him until he's sufficiently distracted.
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Potrzebie posted:Whenever Ulf gets too close, an aid starts waving the NATO emblem in front of him until he's sufficiently distracted. Look, that A4 printout of the NATO emblem has done more to preserve EU security than any politician in decades.
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V. Illych L. posted:the fosen windmill protest was nice. decent attendance, considering it's in the middle of winter break and also was organised less than 48 hours before the actual event, a pretty tight programme, relevant cultural stuff (joik!) and some actually pretty good chants and speeches. got some news coverage, too. i really do think that it may be possible to force the government's retreat on this issue. greta thunberg showing up to attend and support the protests has been a smart move, too. even international news are reporting on it now
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ulvir posted:greta thunberg showing up to attend and support the protests has been a smart move, too. even international news are reporting on it now yeah, also it's very hard to mobilise a green argument against it when thunberg's on the team generally this has been quite well played by the activists and, it must be said, very poorly by the government
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Imagine removing peaceful indigenous protesters by force, knowing they're right and still being able to look at yourself in the mirror.
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Alhazred posted:Imagine removing peaceful indigenous protesters by force, knowing they're right and still being able to look at yourself in the mirror. Please don’t make me post first_time.jpg for like the zillionth time.
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Really owning the western world Realtalk: I hope whoever did it knows how to keep quiet and flee the continent
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teen witch posted:Really owning the western world It's nice of them to respect our traditions.
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I thought someone loving up that statue happened like every other week.
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Oh no, whatever are we possibly supposed to do against some paint on a rock below a statue that's been decapitated so often, that it's practically a joke at this point.
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I assume that the point is that Russia has fallen in love with something it can never have and will die as foam on the ocean?
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Work harder proles  https://finans.dk/politik/ECE15228510/statsministeren-knuser-ide-om-kortere-arbejdstid-i-fremtiden-glem-det-venner/ quote:Der er alle mulige mennesker, der mener, vi kan arbejde mindre. Glem det, venner. Glem det Says Mette Frederiksen days after abolishing a public holiday, at a conference arranged by McKinsey, talking to corruption elemental Bjarne Corydon. At least we don't have a right wing government.
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Esran posted:Work harder proles Actually, it says Chief Editor on his hat now, he's part of the fourth estate and keeps power in check.
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Esran posted:Work harder proles pre:personer/pct. køn 1979 1980 1981 1982 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 1988 1989 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 Procent af arbejdsstyrken I alt 6.1 6.9 8.9 9.5 10.0 9.6 8.6 7.5 7.5 8.3 9.1 9.3 10.1 10.9 11.9 11.8 9.8 8.2 7.3 6.0 5.2 4.9 4.7 4.8 5.8 5.8 5.1 3.9 2.7 1.9 3.6 4.2 4.0 4.5 4.4 4.0 3.8 3.3 3.3 3.1 3.0 4.1 3.2 I love how utterly relaxed she looks. Powerful spine on this one.
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Powerful spine on this one. Not so much on the ones that's carrying her.
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:The funny thing is, if you check the statistics we're doing pretty well Yeah, but how this seems to work is that when there's high unemployment, we need to cut benefits to get the lazy bums off welfare. When there's low unemployment, companies are yelling at the government to increase the labor pool, so we need to get people to work more, and cut benefits to get the lazy bums off welfare. Edit: This explains a lot quote:McKinsey (...) retained a diffident and traditional ethos (...) requiring its consultants to wear fedoras Esran fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Mar 2, 2023 |
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:The funny thing is, if you check the statistics we're doing pretty well: Just as a side note: It's more the demographic development which is the problem than unemployment, though obviously low unemployment helps with labour supply. By demographic developments, I mean that over the next 20 years, the active work-force will shrink in comparison with the people outside the labour market (ie. olds and youngs mostly). In particular it's a "problem" that people live longer, because healthcare expenses and labour needs increase dramatically the longer you live. All in all, it means fewer people to work and more people to be cared for, and that will create a massive strain on our welfare system. It has been going this way for a while, but we're barely at the beginning of this curve, so in terms of failing of the healthcare system for example, things will likely get much worse. In my personal opinion, I think we're heading for a collapse in several welfare areas, to which the only available solution, when it happens, will be privatization. I'm not saying it's by design, but certainly people have been working on 'starving the beast' for a while and increasingly things that are not just cosmetic are privatized. Obviously, privatization doesn't actually solve anything, it makes it worse in a lot of ways. Not for the people who can afford it though, at least in the short run. There is an obvious and simple solution to this, which has always been used in situations like this, and that is to import labour. However, importing labour has been an extreme no-no in danish politics since the early 90s. Personally, I also like higher taxes to solve parts of the current funding problem, but it doesn't solve the shrinking work-force issue. Not only is there not enough hands, but the smaller the amount of labour, the more expensive (again, this can be solved with higher taxes, but... who is going to suggest, let alone implement, that?). On a personal level, I generally disagree with a lot of things that are going on currently, but it is a legitimate problem that the healthcare sector, and to some extent the entire welfare state, is underwater and getting worse. We really do desperately need more labour supply, most definitely not less. e: Just incase it's not clear, more 'free time' (holidays, vacation, shorter working hours) generally reduces labour supply. We currently have money, we need more labour. Revelation 2-13 fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Mar 2, 2023 |
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Yes, but when you've built the last 20-odd years of Danish politics around brown people being scary and that has become the political consensus across the center, switching gears is hard. I don't see any of S, DF, DD, NB and maybe V and K being eager to allow more immigration. I think even parties like Ø would be concerned that more immigration would be used as an opportunity for employers to depress wages. Edit: Even with the current low unemployment, I think I recall someone from S saying that once the war is over, Ukrainians need to leave. So it doesn't seem like they're softening their stance yet. Esran fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Mar 2, 2023 |
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It turns out that a very high profile "send donations to Ukraine"-dude has something of a complicated history. Meet Kenneth Gregg, serial fraud and drug smuggler. https://yle.fi/a/3-12388318
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According to Internet lore, Greta dissed Andrew Tate so hard (with an at best C-tier insult) that he was propelled into Romanian jail so you know what? She’s earned that face. (I know it’s not what happened but it is what happened in my heart).
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Esran posted:I guess that's just how she gets around these days. Can it be considered a carbon-neutral form of transportation?
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Slashrat posted:Can it be considered a carbon-neutral form of transportation? It does produce CO2 emissions though.
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Revelation 2-13 posted:Just as a side note: It's more the demographic development which is the problem than unemployment, though obviously low unemployment helps with labour supply. By demographic developments, I mean that over the next 20 years, the active work-force will shrink in comparison with the people outside the labour market (ie. olds and youngs mostly). In particular it's a "problem" that people live longer, because healthcare expenses and labour needs increase dramatically the longer you live. All in all, it means fewer people to work and more people to be cared for, and that will create a massive strain on our welfare system. It has been going this way for a while, but we're barely at the beginning of this curve, so in terms of failing of the healthcare system for example, things will likely get much worse. In my personal opinion, I think we're heading for a collapse in several welfare areas, to which the only available solution, when it happens, will be privatization. I'm not saying it's by design, but certainly people have been working on 'starving the beast' for a while and increasingly things that are not just cosmetic are privatized. Obviously, privatization doesn't actually solve anything, it makes it worse in a lot of ways. Not for the people who can afford it though, at least in the short run.
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Slashrat posted:Can it be considered a carbon-neutral form of transportation? pork has the worst carbon footprint of any agriculture iirc, maybe second to beef
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