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FuzzySlippers posted:I'm gonna be curious about difficulty reports. I enjoyed demon, ds1 and 2, and elden but found blood, sekiro, and the bit of nioh I played too hard for an old man like me. I really enjoy the setting though so hopefully there's a way to muddle through it. The demo 2nd gorilla boss was very frustrating. Play Co op
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In a lot of ways coop may not actually be easier. Everything's got more health, and a game like this being so heavily parry focused, not having the boss attention on you at all times is probably going to be really annoying lol
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Darth Walrus posted:So now people are actually starting to play this, what builds are they gravitating towards and enjoying? I recognise it'll be early days (well, hours) yet, but still seems worth asking. mainly wood/metal, although i might start dipping into earth for some of its defensive benefits and for co-op later on. wood is just straightforwardly good, since it's got a lot of forgiveness built into its stats and some really solid utility spells to go along with it Babe Magnet posted:In a lot of ways coop may not actually be easier. Everything's got more health, and a game like this being so heavily parry focused, not having the boss attention on you at all times is probably going to be really annoying lol earth gets an AoE taunt spell at the least, so if you get someone with high enough earth in your party then you're golden
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Mar 2, 2023 23:09
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yeah it'll be interesting to see how people play off each other's buffs and debuffs
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FuzzySlippers posted:I'm gonna be curious about difficulty reports. I enjoyed demon, ds1 and 2, and elden but found blood, sekiro, and the bit of nioh I played too hard for an old man like me. I really enjoy the setting though so hopefully there's a way to muddle through it. The demo 2nd gorilla boss was very frustrating. I'm both old and really blind and its okay by me based on the demo. Deflect being on your dodge does a lot to make things easier since the common newbie trap of panic dodging might still result in a deflect. I can imagine it getting bullshit hard later, but as base line, I'd say definitely easier than Sekiro.
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Really looking forward to this game, not played a team ninja offering since ninja garden 3 but its coming to gamepass at a good time for me and just really looking forward to jumping into a game totally blind for the first time in ages
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If anyone still runs in to performance issues on pc and has a 12k series or later cpu I fixed the majority of the frame timing issues by doing all these things: updating to windows 11 disabling my e cores in the bios (lol) limiting the fps to 1 below the in game fps cap (so 119 instead of 120)
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Dryzen posted:If anyone still runs in to performance issues on pc and has a 12k series or later cpu I fixed the majority of the frame timing issues by doing all these things: i've seen the bios trick suggested elsewhere so it's probably legit wish there was a way to fix the mouselook, but the only thing i can even remotely think of is emulating analog stick movement with the mouse, which probably is not worth the hassle
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yeah I had constant stutters with big stutters on w10 with e cores on, constant stutters on w10 with e cores off, and none of either with w11 and e cores off the mouse deadzone is something that will hopefully get patched before anyone has to make something crazy to get around it
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The flood of "Avenged [name]" every time you kill any enemy that is stronger than a basic grunt is always funny to me. Good mechanic
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Do you get your morale level back every time you go back into a boss fight where you died, or just the tutorial? If you get a new morale level before you head back in, does that replace the old one or do they stack?
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marshmallow creep posted:Do you get your morale level back every time you go back into a boss fight where you died, or just the tutorial? If you get a new morale level before you head back in, does that replace the old one or do they stack? raising flags throughout the level will increase your Fortitude, which is the floor that your Morale can fall to when you die. if you have 10 Fortitude, you'll never be able to drop below 10 Morale no matter how much you die
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marshmallow creep posted:Do you get your morale level back every time you go back into a boss fight where you died, or just the tutorial? If you get a new morale level before you head back in, does that replace the old one or do they stack? For regular enemies, killing the dude who killed you gets your morale back to what it was. For bosses, just entering the arena does this so you don't reenter a fight that killed you at a disadvantage. If you grind up one higher than you lost, I think it just uses the highest number, yeah.
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Glass cannon fire builds are looking fun, all offense all the time.
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Vermain posted:the loot system in nioh 1/2 and wo long is largely an optional NG+ thing if you really want to grind out for it and try to minmax, and is otherwise completely ignorable beyond keeping your weapon/armor upgraded and considering equipping any 4* loot you get Ya I really don't understand the loot criticism, unless you want to play NG+ the loot system can be ignored, just at the end of each level equip the highest level equipment. In NG+ you can kinda get by with just having high equipment level loot as well.
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Doesn't unlock for another 4 hours, but went ahead and preordered because I know I'll get it eventually and the reviews seem to be 'pretty much Nioh' which is OK with me 
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this game looks very Nioh on my ps4 pro its has this like kinda jaggy edge to everything? doesnt bother me its just odd cuz the way the both games start is throwing me for a loop a little bit game fun tho
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Takes No Damage posted:Doesn't unlock for another 4 hours, but went ahead and preordered because I know I'll get it eventually and the reviews seem to be 'pretty much Nioh' which is OK with me i preordered once i realized i'd spent 18 hours in the demo wish they'd let me preload the goddamn thing already so i can potentially play it a bit tonight verbal enema posted:this game looks very Nioh on my ps4 pro its has this like kinda jaggy edge to everything? doesnt bother me its just odd cuz the way the both games start is throwing me for a loop a little bit that's probably DLSS kicking in, i definitely notice some fuzziness creeping into the picture during high action moments edit: oh sorry i missed the PS4 pro bit, it's probably just downscaled antialiasing then since i imagine the game was optimized for PS5 Vermain fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Mar 3, 2023 |
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Vermain posted:
that makes sense also i love the design of that one Zhang guy with the cool rear end mask
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verbal enema posted:this game looks very Nioh on my ps4 pro its has this like kinda jaggy edge to everything? doesnt bother me its just odd cuz the way the both games start is throwing me for a loop a little bit Yeah it's not going to be visually impressive, especially on a PS4, but if that's in service of keeping a consistent high framerate then fair trade IMO. Is there a way to compare gear between what you're wearing and what you're looking at in your inventory beyond the game just showing you if the main stat is higher or lower? Or is that just the game's way of letting you know to not worry about it and just make number go up?
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Diephoon posted:Play Co op A friend and I did coop for nioh 2 and had a lot of fun in it. (It helps that he's a lot better than me so he basically carried me in a lot of fights.  ) Excited to try out Wo Long!
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I don't think you can co-op until you beat the 1st boss though, who is the biggest difficulty spike.
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you can always grind your way up to like, 25 morale if a boss is ever giving you grief; it's very much an emergency button to punch if something proves too insurmountable, and there's no shame in taking advantage of it if needed
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Oh this is only for PC. Consoles unlock at Midnight in your time zone
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RatHat posted:I don't think you can co-op until you beat the 1st boss though, who is the biggest difficulty spike. It was really weird because when I fought the first boss on Steam, I nuked his second phase so fast I thought it was scripted. Then I did it again on Game Pass and he rocked my poo poo until I learned his timings. I have no idea why.
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marshmallow creep posted:It was really weird because when I fought the first boss on Steam, I nuked his second phase so fast I thought it was scripted. Then I did it again on Game Pass and he rocked my poo poo until I learned his timings. I have no idea why. he's an unusual boss in that you want him to use his big scary attacks as much as possible, as most of them are extremely predictable and absolutely chunk his spirit bar if you deflect them properly, so getting regular attacks can end up throwing you for a loop
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Respect to Team Ninja for deciding to include a boss that is basically just "can you beat the camera" in their version of Blighttown
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Takes No Damage posted:Yeah it's not going to be visually impressive, especially on a PS4, but if that's in service of keeping a consistent high framerate then fair trade IMO. im always 100% cool with this in any game of any year ive ever been playing games i used to play tf2 in a 640x480 window with all graphic settings down i got real good during that time tho
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What are the audio options? Does everyone speak in Chinese by default, despite it being a Japanese game? Because that would be neat.
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Darth Walrus posted:What are the audio options? Does everyone speak in Chinese by default, despite it being a Japanese game? Because that would be neat. I have all the voices set to Chinese and it owns
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verbal enema posted:I have all the voices set to Chinese and it owns Ya I had English default, changed to Chinese definitely fits the mood way better.
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Diephoon posted:Play Co op But what if I hate people?
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How does the game run on ps5 I might order and install on the way home.
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Takes No Damage posted:Doesn't unlock for another 4 hours, but went ahead and preordered because I know I'll get it eventually and the reviews seem to be 'pretty much Nioh' which is OK with me  Pretty pumped for this verbal enema posted:I have all the voices set to Chinese and it owns This is the way EvilBlackRailgun fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Mar 3, 2023 |
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Phoix posted:Respect to Team Ninja for deciding to include a boss that is basically just "can you beat the camera" in their version of Blighttown Every soulslike needs at least one Also my impression from the demo was that the loot system was way more tolerable? You get more loot dumped on you from clearing a single room of enemies in Nioh or stranger of paradise than you do in an entire level of Wo Long. Unless that’s not the case in the full game? Augus fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Mar 3, 2023 |
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Augus posted:Every soulslike needs at least one So far the loot does seem significantly less than in the Nioh's, where every single fight littered the ground with a rarity rainbow of random gear. But it also seems to suffer from the same issue of (so far) there not being an obvious point to looking at any of the drops you do get beyond 'make big number go up' while staying in your desired weight class. Hopefully that's something they can tweak in the first few patches.
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Seems like you can start playing it on PS4. For reference, I bought it from the demo page and idk if that matters. I thought it wasn't for another hour since I'm PST.
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A Bystander posted:Seems like you can start playing it on PS4. For reference, I bought it from the demo page and idk if that matters. I thought it wasn't for another hour since I'm PST. meanwhile, steam is absolutely trolling me by insisting that it is still not 12 AM on march the 3rd 2023 for reasons unknown
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Stranger of Paradise’ loot system got genuinely good by the 2nd dlc if you like Diablolike loot. It adds a lot of build complexity and a puzzle aspect of how to gear up for postgame challenges. Until that point, loot is near meaningless filler. It preserves the difficulty curve of the main game while giving you an additional layer of rpg mechanics to interact with later. Based on what people say about Nioh, I assume Wo Long will be similar.
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