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AlternateNu posted:For the original trilogy, all you need to know is that Mario 1 was real, Mario 2 was a dream, and Mario 3 was a play. I think you'll find that all got retconned in Mario All Stars where it was revealed that it was all a play and every character in the universe is just an actor. How else do you explain why they're all able to amicably participate in a no holds barred go kart race. All these games can be skipped. Dr. Mario is super important to canon though.
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My favorite Mario lore is that Wario was sad he didn't have a tennis partner so he hired an actor to play a villain, but the actor liked the role so much that he became Waluigi full time.
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Mar 3, 2023 09:11
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Zero mission owns. I’ve never played a game in my life for “the lore” because I’m not a freak.
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Mar 3, 2023 10:08
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:My favorite Other M lore is an entirely unsubstantiated rumor I heard; that Jennifer Hale was originally going to voice Samus, but the director absolutely hated that she kept sounding like someone keeping their emotions in check, rather than his artistic vision of a Samus who is entirely dead on the inside. The greatest thing about Other M is Sakamoto and Reggie's absolutely baffled reaction to everyone hating it, they thought they'd made an absolute masterpiece of storytelling.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:My favorite Other M lore is an entirely unsubstantiated rumor I heard; that Jennifer Hale was originally going to voice Samus, but the director absolutely hated that she kept sounding like someone keeping their emotions in check, rather than his artistic vision of a Samus who is entirely dead on the inside. sounds made-up tbqh
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AlphaKeny1 posted:My favorite Mario lore is that Wario was sad he didn't have a tennis partner so he hired an actor to play a villain, but the actor liked the role so much that he became Waluigi full time. I was not aware of this but it's cool af
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yeah probably that's why i prefaced it with "entirely unsubstantiated" Everything about the voice direction of Other M, other than the end result, is rumors and hearsay for some reason.
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Astro7x posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o-1bhvB1qk Hell yeah, this was my fav metroid until dread did everything it did but better
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American McGay posted:Agreed. They should be skipping it because it’s the worst of the modern Metroids. This isnt wrong (other then other m being way worse) but its still an 8/10 game imo
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Mar 3, 2023 12:59
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U should probably play it before fusion since my muscle memory always fucks me over in super bc if how different wall jumping was
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Astro7x posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o-1bhvB1qk The scene where the SA-X walks in and the game ZOOMS IN on their face is one of the few horror moments in any game that always makes me go  . I ain't fuckin' around with no evil Samus clone, I'm getting the gently caress OUT of there!
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AlternateNu posted:Super Mario RPG and Paper Mario For the more obscure bits of Mario history, PETA once made a crude Mario 3 parody game where "Mario" was wearing the skinned hide of real raccoons. Because PETA for some reason thought the costumes in Super Mario Brothers 3 were made from real frogs and raccoons. The game of course, was tasteless and awful.
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Read After Burning posted:I didn't know 2D Metroid games would cause so much dissent! Moral of this is that everyone likes 2 and Fusion, and will argue a lot over the others? If you have a 3DS, Samus Returns is a remake of II, so has the same Lore, but better controls and no lovely "need to backtrack through the entire map to swap beams because the GB only has 2 buttons" mechanic. It's also very much a prototype of Dread, so you'll know what you're in for when you get to Dread. Also, please play Dread. If the only thing holding you back from playing it is the EMMIs please play Dread. I swear you'll be fine. But all the 2D Metroids from Super onwards are amazing games and worth playing. The first two are only worth it from a curiosity "How did we get here?" perspective.
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Silver Falcon posted:But all the 2D Metroids from Super onwards are amazing games and worth playing. The first two are only worth it from a curiosity "How did we get here?" perspective. Except Other M. There is no merit to playing Other M. Watch the cutscenes on Youtube if you're really in the mood to psychologically hurt yourself for a few hours.
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Mar 3, 2023 13:29
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Except Other M. There is no merit to playing Other M. Watch the cutscenes on Youtube if you're really in the mood to psychologically hurt yourself for a few hours. Other M is not a 2D Metroid
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Except Other M. There is no merit to playing Other M. Watch the cutscenes on Youtube if you're really in the mood to psychologically hurt yourself for a few hours. wtf Other M isn't a 2D Metroid my dude. 
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Silver Falcon posted:wtf Other M isn't a 2D Metroid my dude. Well 2.5D is close enough? 
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Well 2.5D is close enough? It is very extremely not. When you're talking about 2D Metroids, you're talking about stuff like Super, Samus Returns, or Dread. 2D sidescrollers, neither of which Other M is. There is not a single person who would see "2D Metroid" and think "Other M" except you, apparently.
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Butterfly Valley posted:Other M is not a 2D Metroid Silver Falcon posted:It is very extremely not. When you're talking about 2D Metroids, you're talking about stuff like Super, Samus Returns, or Dread. 2D sidescrollers, neither of which Other M is. There is not a single person who would see "2D Metroid" and think "Other M" except you, apparently. Jesus loving Christ. You all know what they meant for fucks sake. That's the worst sort of sperglord hair splitting.
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Tall Tale Teller posted:Jesus loving Christ. You all know what they meant for fucks sake. Pretty passionate about Other M huh?
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AlphaKeny1 posted:My favorite Mario lore is that Wario was sad he didn't have a tennis partner so he hired an actor to play a villain, but the actor liked the role so much that he became Waluigi full time. I hate to break it to you, but that was a photoshop. The real lore, whatever it is, isn't nearly as interesting. Bummed me out too. 
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:I hate to break it to you, but that was a photoshop. The real lore, whatever it is, isn't nearly as interesting. Canonically they're all actors playing characters (per Shigsy himself) so we can make it work. Lunchmeat Larry fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Mar 3, 2023 |
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Metroid fusion is the best metroid game
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People were so mad about Fusion having too much handholding back when it was new
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an important caveat to "all 2d metroids are good" is that other m is, in fact, not good otherwise it holds true
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Six years in an instant!
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Wonder if we're ever going to get any more Snes games
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I don't think they make that console anymore, op
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You guys remember when fusion got released...the same loving day as prime? How nuts was that
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Quantum of Phallus posted:I don't think they make that console anymore, op doesn't stop people from making new games though this game for example, can be bought for Switch, Steam or original SEGA Mega Drive cartridge, if you want there are crazy people making new games constantly for all manner of old machines, consoles, home computers, they just never stop
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Plot idea for the next metroid: Samus needs a night off so she goes to a space bar. She drinks a little too much and plays space poker. She loses her power suit in the game (she's in her civvies during the game, it's not strip space poker, perverts). Now some poker cheater owns her suit so she has to take bounty missions to buy it back. He won't sell it to her all at once, he parts it out. $5000 space dollars for morph ball. $7000 for missles. $15000 for varia. He can't sell the grapple beam because Evil Corporation, Inc took it to reverse engineer, so she had to infiltrate to steal it back, sneakily. Buy back your stuff in the order you want. In some cases you need to buy an upgrade to proceed (need ice beam to go to lava land and get the bounty there), in other cases it doesn't matter. Sometimes you have to revisit a planet with reacquired weapons to proceed. Over the course of the game some plot stuff happens so you need to fight some big bad guy at the end. Eventually you have all your poo poo back and finish the game. Samus swears off booze
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play super because it rules and if you hate the physics and theyre not gelling, play zero mission because its the complete opposite and also rules
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Libluini posted:doesn't stop people from making new games though that's sick
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WHY BONER NOW posted:You guys remember when fusion got released...the same loving day as prime? How nuts was that It had also been 8 years since the last Metroid game was released. It was insane to go so long & then release two amazing games.
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Gonna play Metroid Prime for the first time tonight.
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WHY BONER NOW posted:Plot idea for the next metroid: Would never work, Samus would simply beat the poo poo out of the guy and get it back.
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Wild to me we didn't get a metroid anything for N64. But then again it's wild to me we haven't gotten a Star Fox anything for Switch (besides that weird guest star role in that Ubisoft game.)
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Libluini posted:doesn't stop people from making new games though
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As long as everyone is fellating all things Metroid, please find and play AM2R. I had so much fun with it and it's a great take on the genre
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AlphaKeny1 posted:lol there is no dissent. saying you can safely skip super metroid because it isn't relevant to the timeline is a real bad take. super metroid literally defined the genre and is super unapologetic about it Super and Fusion are very different games and play quite differently from each other, to the point that if you play Fusion immediately after Super you're going to walk away disappointed. Yes, I agree that Super was a seminal work that defined a genre, so that Fusion plays quite differently was a disappointment to a bunch of folks. But taken on its own terms, Fusion is also a fantastic game. Play Super afterwards, or whenever really. Silver Falcon posted:It is very extremely not. When you're talking about 2D Metroids, you're talking about stuff like Super, Samus Returns, or Dread. 2D sidescrollers, neither of which Other M is. There is not a single person who would see "2D Metroid" and think "Other M" except you, apparently. My take on this is that even Nintendo uses the excuse that Other M is "technically a 3D game" to exclude it from discussion of the 2D Metroid series, and it's not part of the Prime series and so obviously not discussed there either. Which enables Nintendo to pretend it no longer exists. Had it been a better game and much more well received you would definitely see discussion of it alongside Fusion and Dread.
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