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lordfrikk
Mar 11, 2010

Oh, say it ain't fuckin' so,
you stupid fuck!

Nancy posted:

I'm pretty sure Kojima said a few times that part of the point of Quiet was that he wanted to see cosplays of her.

*the Monkey's Paw curls*



e: :sicknasty:

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History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




That guy rules

Jack-Off Lantern
Mar 2, 2012


Yeah, that's just a good cosplay

Vic
Nov 26, 2009

malae fidei cum XI_XXVI_MMIX
If you weren't ashamed of your words and deeds before, now you certainly are

FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

The xbox cloud streaming works pretty well on the deck once you install edge and launch it through steam. I grabbed game pass to try Wo Long and the cloud streaming was easier than streaming from my main desktop and works about as well.

My only problem with Wo Long is that some parts move too fast for my old brain and I can't figure out how to do speed hack cheats on the deck. I have to play those on the desktop where at 0.75% speed I can process the bloody boss attacks

FuzzySlippers fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Mar 3, 2023

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

lordfrikk posted:

*the Monkey's Paw curls*



e: :sicknasty:

It may not appeal to me, but I stand by this dude's choice.

Also, deck thread.... what the hell is a flatpack?

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

A flatpak is a steam deck app

RoastBeef
Jul 11, 2008


Flatpak is just the steam deck's package manager.

unruly
May 12, 2002

YES!!!

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

It may not appeal to me, but I stand by this dude's choice.

Also, deck thread.... what the hell is a flatpack?
As RoastBeef said, it's a package format.

I'm not really thrilled about the usage of FlatPak or Snap or Appimage. However, given the market segment that the device is targeted at, I can understand the inclusion.

Basically, it allows users to have a more Windows-esque install experience instead of relying on the distribution's package management system (in this case it's Arch, so pacman)

Bumhead
Sep 26, 2022

unruly posted:

Basically, it allows users to have a more Windows-esque install experience instead of relying on the distribution's package management system (in this case it's Arch, so pacman)

I think this is the reasoning that made it make sense for me.

I'll use The Force Engine as an example, which is a mod to modernise Star Wars: Dark Forces for modern systems, and recently received Linux support making it compatible on Steam Deck. On Windows the installation is no more complicated than downloading and running an installer. It does everything for you. On Linux, you have to build that installer package yourself using all sorts of different bits of code and files. It's such a complicated looking process I can't even accurately describe it in any further detail than that.

A Flatpak basically does all that building ahead of time and creates a simpler installation package, a-la Windows. In the case of The Force Engine example, that's being worked on now ahead of a release even though it technically does already work on Linux.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




Linux out of the box is stupid complicated poo poo for greasy turbonerds and anything that makes things easier is better even if you have to put up with all the wailing and gnashing about

“nooooo that’s not how it’s meant to be you can’t just have a simple one click installer you need to open up a terminal and paste in a 4 paragraph long string of commands that won’t work right away so you have to google the error message that comes up and hope you pick the right greasy turbonerd to listen to from stackoverflow or Reddit about which other arcane command you need to run to fix that error message and then do it over and over until you’ve resolved all the error messages and it still won’t install because it turns out you needed to put sudo at the start but never put sudo at the start if you don’t understand the command you’re running what are you some kind of idiot baby this is how you get pwnd!!!!!!!!!!”
:goonsay:

ottergauze
Dec 11, 2022

rocode posted:

They do! Did you not get the package they sent out when the magnet case turned out to cause certain fans to have issues? It comes with an extender to the USB-C and a plastic doohickey that keeps the cased deck secure in the official dock. You may want to contact support, mine came with both.

I preordered the revamped case after the whole magnets and fans debacle. Ironically it wouldn’t have affected me anyway. I looked through the packaging thoroughly and received nothing of the sort. I’ve got in touch with support and am currently waiting for a response.

loudog999
Apr 30, 2006

I finally took some time to get GeForce now running on the deck last night. I wasn’t sure if adding another instance of edge dedicated to it would mess up the one I have for gamepass so I was happy to find a gfn flatpak available. Ran Witcher 3 and Shadow of the Tomb Raider for a few minutes each to test and they look great. Me holding on to my geoforce founders pricing may finally pay off.

If anyone else sets this up don’t skip the instructions on the project website. They have a konsole command and launch option I had to add before the controller was recognized by gfn.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

I also use GeForce Now and it is extremely excellent. With a few tweaks to minimize input lag, you can even reliably play shooters like Destiny 2 competitively on it.

If you want to play games that aren’t allowed on Linux like Genshin Impact through GeForce Now, spoofing your UA string isn’t enough. You’ll need to use an extension like Vytal that changes UA strings via debugging instead, because Chrome(ium) has additional bits of identifying data that can identify your platform.

unruly
May 12, 2002

YES!!!

History Comes Inside! posted:

Linux out of the box is stupid complicated poo poo for greasy turbonerds and anything that makes things easier is better even if you have to put up with all the wailing and gnashing about

“nooooo that’s not how it’s meant to be you can’t just have a simple one click installer you need to open up a terminal and paste :words: [✂️snip✂️]
:goonsay:
I get it. I know that cracking open a terminal and typing commands is not what most people are going to tolerate. My personal preference is to not involve Yet Another Thing(TM) into the mix. For most users, however, I can see the advantage. This is especially true on a gaming console.

The technical debate aside, flatpak is a decent package format for things like games and other proprietary software tools. I'm just glad the thing isn't running some half-baked Windows 11 install with all the poo poo that comes with it.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Rupert Buttermilk posted:


Also, deck thread.... what the hell is a flatpack?

It’s the box you get from ikea with furniture to put together.

jokes posted:

I also use GeForce Now and it is extremely excellent. With a few tweaks to minimize input lag, you can even reliably play shooters like Destiny 2 competitively on it.


Any tips here?

Heran Bago
Aug 18, 2006



Rupert Buttermilk posted:

It may not appeal to me, but I stand by this dude's choice.

Also, deck thread.... what the hell is a flatpack?

It's like a .msi file for Steam OS.

ExcessBLarg!
Sep 1, 2001
Luxtorpeda is also a great way to get source ports running for Steam games. I'd assume it will add support for the Force engine once whatever integration issues are sorted out.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

MarcusSA posted:

Any tips here?

Yeah, generally you should use in-game Vsync and framerate limiters if available (or not at all) instead of setting a framerate limit in the Steam settings.

The "allow tearing" button in the deck settings (under the framerate caps) is a stealthy "vsync" button. Since it's only going to send it to you at 60 FPS (assuming you pay for it) you may as well turn off all the framerate limiting options on the Deck and enable "allow tearing".

Try disabling "adjust for poor network conditions" in GFN settings as this supposedly does some sort of frame buffering.

That's about it. Also have good internet.

I'd say the input lag is imperceptible but I also am not a Serious Hardcore Video Game Player.

jokes fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Mar 3, 2023

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

jokes posted:

Yeah, generally you should use in-game Vsync and framerate limiters if available (or not at all) instead of setting a framerate limit in the Steam settings.

The "allow tearing" button in the deck settings (under the framerate caps) is a stealthy "vsync" button. Since it's only going to send it to you at 60 FPS (assuming you pay for it) you may as well turn off all the framerate limiting options on the Deck and enable "allow tearing".

Try disabling "adjust for poor network conditions" as this supposedly does some sort of frame buffering.

That's about it. Also have good internet.

Great thanks!

CBD Corndog
Jun 21, 2009



Speaking of Flatpacks, if you have a bunch of emulators or Discover store stuff installed on the Deck y'all should get the AutoFlatpack plugin for Decky.

It will update Flatpacks in the background without having to boot into desktop mode. Also useful for updating apps when the Discover store stops loading like it did for me for a while.

Snackmar
Feb 23, 2005

I'M PROGRAMMED TO LOVE THIS CHOCOLATY CAKE... MY CIRCUITS LIGHT UP FOR THAT FUDGY ICING.

CBD Corndog posted:

Speaking of Flatpacks, if you have a bunch of emulators or Discover store stuff installed on the Deck y'all should get the AutoFlatpack plugin for Decky.

It will update Flatpacks in the background without having to boot into desktop mode. Also useful for updating apps when the Discover store stops loading like it did for me for a while.

Say, is there any issue with letting Discover update the bits that EmuDeck installs? I don't really use EmuDeck yet but I've been manually de-selecting emulation packages from the updates and then doing those separately via the EmuDeck update tool

Nefarious 2.0
Apr 22, 2008

Offense is overrated anyway.

just when I think I understand what the hell a flatpak is it turns out I have no idea. oh well, off to play more steam games

ExcessBLarg!
Sep 1, 2001

CBD Corndog posted:

Speaking of Flatpacks, if you have a bunch of emulators or Discover store stuff installed on the Deck y'all should get the AutoFlatpack plugin for Decky.
Just beware that constantly updating emulators is not always a great idea if you're in the middle of a game playthrough. One time I had a Dolphin update invalidate all the save states I had.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

Snackmar posted:

Say, is there any issue with letting Discover update the bits that EmuDeck installs? I don't really use EmuDeck yet but I've been manually de-selecting emulation packages from the updates and then doing those separately via the EmuDeck update tool
For the flatpaks, no there's no difference, Emudeck and Discover run the same commands to update them. The Emudeck updater also updates the rest of the Emudeck poo poo though, and a couple of the emulators in Emudeck like Yuzu are not flatpaks.

ottergauze
Dec 11, 2022

Nefarious 2.0 posted:

just when I think I understand what the hell a flatpak is it turns out I have no idea. oh well, off to play more steam games

It’s a way of distributing software that provides everything needed for the program to run, so libraries and such, so that they’ll always work regardless of what’s around it, and in the world of Linux things can vary a lot. They also provide for things like giving applications specific permissions.

loudog999
Apr 30, 2006

I have Heroic Launcher installed but haven’t tried any games with it. For some reason I was under the impression that games launched from it will not run as well as native Steam games. I don’t know where I got this from but is there any truth to it? Do the shader downloads that happen with steam games happen with them as well?

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Nope

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

loudog999 posted:

I have Heroic Launcher installed but haven’t tried any games with it. For some reason I was under the impression that games launched from it will not run as well as native Steam games. I don’t know where I got this from but is there any truth to it? Do the shader downloads that happen with steam games happen with them as well?
Heroic uses the same stuff to run them as Steam, they'll run just as well. You don't get the shader cache downloads or anything else Steam does though.

Mescal
Jul 23, 2005

hurray! now when browsing your library with keyboard you can type letters on keyboard to navigate. i'm on stable so i guess thats everybody.

Here's a question: where's a good place to ask questions other than here and r/steamdeck? We are too few and they are too ignorant. I still have tons of "known issues" and technical questions.

Mescal fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Mar 3, 2023

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

👽
Wow they just enabled Ray Tracing on the deck. Wild.

Switch is looking pretty worthless these days.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdGGR4-dakk

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


I played the deck way more than my switch since I got it last October, until this year where starting mid January I've played my Switch way more than my Deck. They're different products with different libraries

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




John Wick of Dogs posted:

I played the deck way more than my switch since I got it last October, until this year where starting mid January I've played my Switch way more than my Deck. They're different products with different libraries

No it’s Highlander rules

Mescal
Jul 23, 2005

History Comes Inside! posted:

No it’s Highlander rules

lol what kind of iddiot thinks two different things can both be good

Jack-Off Lantern
Mar 2, 2012

History Comes Inside! posted:

No it’s Highlander rules

They're Aliens from Zeist?

unruly
May 12, 2002

YES!!!

homeless snail posted:

Heroic uses the same stuff to run them as Steam, they'll run just as well. You don't get the shader cache downloads or anything else Steam does though.
Yeah, once I got Heroic in my steam library, it's great that I can play Cuphead and others right from the UI, instead of having to flip to desktop mode and run heroic from there.

Mescal
Jul 23, 2005

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

you can tile tabs with the chrome-based vivaldi browser, it's available on linux so it should work on steam deck




this was a response to my question in another thread that i'm archiving here. still need install help because i'm not so smart. This browser will let you view two tabs simultaneously in gaming mode where you can't manipulate windows and tabs. I bet one of y'all also wants this feature.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

John Wick of Dogs posted:

I played the deck way more than my switch since I got it last October, until this year where starting mid January I've played my Switch way more than my Deck. They're different products with different libraries

The Switch is now my "Splatoon 3 and retro game" machine, and also what my kids play.

I know I can emulate everything to hell and back on the deck, and if I didn't have a Switch, I would.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




History Comes Inside! posted:

No it’s Highlander rules

I mean, my deck is definitely going to collect some dust when tears of the kingdom comes out, but for now its all deck all the time baybee

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homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

Mescal posted:

this was a response to my question in another thread that i'm archiving here. still need install help because i'm not so smart. This browser will let you view two tabs simultaneously in gaming mode where you can't manipulate windows and tabs. I bet one of y'all also wants this feature.
Its on pacman if you really really want it, and how much sysadmin you want to do.

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