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drk
Jan 16, 2005
If I read this table right, they stole or lost >90% of customers assets, and an impressive 99.9% of the bitcoin

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Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.


Aw thats nice they put one of their own bitcoins in the jar so that it wouldn't look empty

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

The funniest thing about that chart is that they're lumping cash and stablecoin together.

Somehow I think that when it comes time to pay creditors there will be a very important distinction between things held in USD and Tether.

BoldFace
Feb 28, 2011
:iiam:

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

That's impressive. Usually scammers just skim but holy poo poo.

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

ftx.us was indeed insolvent, what a shock that SBF was lying about that!

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

I'm sure SBF is about to publish a perfectly reasonable explanation on substack that will clear this whole thing up. :colbert:

kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

It's okay, they put in a bunch of FTX Bucks into the pot so that makes it solvent touches earpiece hang on I'm getting an update

Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here

The funds are still there, they're just other-than-temporarily displaced. Let me make a T-square real quick titled "OTT Displ." with 1,590 bitcoins and whatever else is allegedly "missing" in the assets column. Problem solved, right?

Hello Sailor fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Mar 3, 2023

Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here

quote != edit

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish
which was the exchange that decided to mix together peoples actual money and their stable coin's balances? was it coin base?

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Boxturret posted:

which was the exchange that decided to mix together peoples actual money and their stable coin's balances? was it coin base?

It's probably all of them

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

jokes posted:

It's probably all of them

I mean publicly lol

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

The Lone Badger posted:

Don't banks tend to have underwriting arrangements with other banks to avoid bank-run-triggered collapses?

Would that cover investment losses though.

If your bank holds a bunch of mortgages in good standing that everyone expects will be paid back, but you're out of cash because too many people tried to withdraw their money at once, that's a liquidity crisis but not an insolvency problem as long as assets > liabilities, so other banks can expect to get paid back if they lend you enough to cover your withdrawals.

If you gambled all your depositors' funds away at the craps tables and you don't have enough assets to cover your liabilities I don't think other banks will give you money then, it'll just flow right out to cover withdrawals and you'll never be able to pay the other banks back.

drk
Jan 16, 2005
RIP crimenet

Trillhouse
Dec 31, 2000

"risk-based decision" is a tautology. all decisions are risk-based.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
my risk is based af

WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no
I’m still chuckling at “less than well-capitalized”.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Dr. Fraiser Chain posted:

Situation Normal, Funds All Safe
More like
Situation Normal, I Found Funds All Safe Sir

Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

drk posted:

If I read this table right, they stole or lost >90% of customers assets, and an impressive 99.9% of the bitcoin



I guess you haven't realized that 1591 BTC = 1 BTC. Nothing wrong here.

Golden Bee
Dec 24, 2009

I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.

Trillhouse posted:

"risk-based decision" is a tautology. all decisions are risk-based.

Paper or plastic or death?

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

drk posted:

RIP crimenet



so does this mean no withdrawals, only deposits?

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

https://twitter.com/lebed2045/status/1631474168922517505

drk
Jan 16, 2005

Juul-Whip posted:

so does this mean no withdrawals, only deposits?

its not clear there is much left to withdraw, they appear to be less than well capitalized and may have hours or days before they become an ex-bank

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Aren’t they the bank that Facebook wanted to facilitate the cash flows for diem/libra lol

drk
Jan 16, 2005

Juul-Whip posted:

Aren’t they the bank that Facebook wanted to facilitate the cash flows for diem/libra lol

lol, silvergate bought diem like a year ago

https://twitter.com/DiemAssociation/status/1488270981718495233

bitcoin and the rest of crypto crashed a couple months later and that was only the start of their problems

GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

anime is not good
amazing that crypto managed to complete gently caress a boring entity that held msbs and treasuries and poo poo. it's got the kind of midas touch were everything just turns to poo poo

Offler posted:

The fact that not everyone involved in crypto has realized that "your money is definitely safe with us" translates to "any money stored with us will be gone in less than a week" by now is amazing.

what's the old saying about a man who has to explain why his credit is good is already ruined? something to that effect

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
did zuck memory hole all cuttcoin stuff for his lovely meta matrix?

Also is the zucktrix going to use real money?

Strumpie
Dec 9, 2012

Cyrano4747 posted:

The funniest thing about that chart is that they're lumping cash and stablecoin together.

Somehow I think that when it comes time to pay creditors there will be a very important distinction between things held in USD and Tether.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oIKaP3Hzes

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009
Well I didn't expect this one, specifically on age.
https://abc7chicago.com/lisle-il-sp-solutions-bitcoin-of-america-cryptocurrency/12904235/

article posted:

A Secret Service raid led to the arrest of William Suriano, 69, of Riverside, and Reza Mehraban, 75, of Naperville, along with his son, who was arrested in Miami.

Apparently they ran scam bitcoin ATM's.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
Best news for Bitcoin yet. If the secret service is investigating scam Bitcoin ATMs that means they think it's real money!

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

drk posted:

If I read this table right, they stole or lost >90% of customers assets, and an impressive 99.9% of the bitcoin



Kinda out of the loop. What is stablecoin? Is that the US Dollar?

MechaCrash
Jan 1, 2013

As I understand it, a "stablecoin" is a digital IOU that they claim is worth a specific amount of United States dollars, which they totally have, really they pinky promise swear, no you may not see the actual dollars these IOUs can be traded for.

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

MechaCrash posted:

As I understand it, a "stablecoin" is a digital IOU that they claim is worth a specific amount of United States dollars, which they totally have, really they pinky promise swear, no you may not see the actual dollars these IOUs can be traded for.

Also you can trade stable coins for other coins but the people who make the stable coin have alot of restrictions on how you can convert them back

spunkshui
Oct 5, 2011



Mumpy Puffinz posted:

Kinda out of the loop. What is stablecoin? Is that the US Dollar?

Its what happens when a casino realizes the more chips it makes, the more money it has!

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
also there's more stablecoinz than multiple M3s.

Hirez
Feb 3, 2003

Weber scored 49 points?

:allears: :allears: :allears:
bitcoins are like casino chips you can use at any casino

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Hirez posted:

bitcoins are like casino chips you can use at any casino

Or at no casino.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
dont real life casino retire chips so they dont get dudes pocketing chips of years and trying to cash them out?

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Lammasu
May 8, 2019

lawful Good Monster

notwithoutmyanus posted:

Well I didn't expect this one, specifically on age.
https://abc7chicago.com/lisle-il-sp-solutions-bitcoin-of-america-cryptocurrency/12904235/

Apparently they ran scam bitcoin ATM's.

That is kind of weird. Crypto is one of the few scams that actually works worse on the elderly because they see it as exchanging real money for fake money. Which it is.

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