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Lid posted:The sparklersplosion was a botch too, it's sometimes things go wrong such as the ladder entirely breaking and needing everyone to hold it. Yes in Japan ref's also are dumb and useless but like I said it was the sheer number of refs that everyone noticed making a visual of them all aiding Hobbs specifically to win. It's a dumb thing that happened that doesn't need to recontextualised. The point remains that not everyone agrees on how dumb it looked or that it looked dumb at all. That's ok. Folks aren't recontextualising they are simply disagreeing on their perception of the same event
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Lid posted:The sparklersplosion was a botch too, it's sometimes things go wrong such as the ladder entirely breaking and needing everyone to hold it. Yes in Japan ref's also are dumb and useless but like I said it was the sheer number of refs that everyone noticed making a visual of them all aiding Hobbs specifically to win. It's a dumb thing that happened that doesn't need to recontextualised. The ending to the exploding ring match was on a whole different level, what are you even talking about And clearly you don't watch Japanese wrestling because I'm not referencing them being dumb or useless at all A refs job is to protect the wrestlers and try to keep things fair, they did that It's not like somebody was coming to topple the ladder and they stopped them
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"everyone needs to agree with me, otherwise they're arguing in bad faith"
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SatoshiMiwa posted:I get people saying get another ladder but it's TV time's tight and it could take forever too which would also have people complain. even if he got another ladder most of the people complaining now would still be complaining
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Alaois posted:"everyone needs to agree with me, otherwise they're arguing in bad faith" this, but for real
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The timekeeper awkwardly attempting to help move that table into place was much more distracting to me than the referees making sure Hobbs and whoever else didn't (accidentally) kill themselves on a ladder.
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i do think it's wild that refs have held ladders across promotions for decades and so many people somehow have only noticed it for the first time on wednesday, all at once
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Mar 3, 2023 02:50
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I thought it made Hobbs look badass. He was so powerful those refs did his bidding.
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Saucer Crab posted:The timekeeper awkwardly attempting to help move that table into place was much more distracting to me than the referees making sure Hobbs and whoever else didn't (accidentally) kill themselves on a ladder. That was demonstrating Hobbs naturally commanding presence. It's called psychology.
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Chakkawakk posted:I'm fine with the refs holding the ladder up for Hobbs. He has a little notebook that he could have written their names into if they didn't hold the ladder for him.
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Drakkel posted:Of all the insane nitpicky things for the internet to get unreasonably angry about right now they focus on this? They will nitpick anything to keep their level of unhappiness.
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Mar 3, 2023 08:04
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Yeah I truly don’t think it looked dumb. Hobbes was so powerful that he broke the ladder. He then told the refs to hold the ladder. What am I missing here why does it look dumb.
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The_Rob posted:Yeah I truly don’t think it looked dumb. Hobbes was so powerful that he broke the ladder. He then told the refs to hold the ladder. What am I missing here why does it look dumb. That's exactly where I landed on it. Hobbs has big powerful legs that no mere Home Depot ladder can sustain. It's just physics. flashy_mcflash fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Mar 3, 2023 |
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flatluigi posted:i do think it's wild that refs have held ladders across promotions for decades and so many people somehow have only noticed it for the first time on wednesday, all at once
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coconono posted:I thought it made Hobbs look badass. He was so powerful those refs did his bidding. that was what I thought too all I know is I can't wait for the hoss off between Hobbs and either Samoa Joe or Wardlow on Wednesday
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to be fair, people first noticed and complained about refs holding ladders the first time AEW had a ladder match and also every time since
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Saucer Crab posted:The timekeeper awkwardly attempting to help move that table into place was much more distracting to me than the referees making sure Hobbs and whoever else didn't (accidentally) kill themselves on a ladder. lol i forgot about the tiny timekeeper lady helping move the table for a second. She was going into business for herself, gently caress Orange Cassidy!
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I follow her on Instagram and she posted that Stokely made her help, but I think she just hates OC
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:to be fair, people first noticed and complained about refs holding ladders the first time AEW had a ladder match and also every time since Yeah, really people notice every time and some people think it's stupid, some people don't, and the wrestlers are happy the spot got done and no one died because the ladder wobbled over
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Mar 3, 2023 15:51
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I think it’s important for someone to hold the ladder because safety has no holiday.
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I’m going to start complaining every time a wrestler moves themselves closer to a corner and angles themselves so another wrestler can jump on them
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Now I want a ladder match to end with the ladder breaking, and the referees making a human pyramid for someone to climb up
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syzpid posted:Now I want a ladder match to end with the ladder breaking, and the referees making a human pyramid for someone to climb up I'd be shocked if DDT hasn't done this.
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https://twitter.com/MeltzerSaidWhat/status/1631511901766053889?s=20 Ah yes, mentioning WON stuff is totally the same as parroting the vile racist, sexist, homophobic, and transphobic garbage that Cornette spews.
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Pylons posted:I'd be shocked if DDT hasn't done this. When I went to japan and saw DDT live they had a match where they put a banana peel on the bottom rung and they slipped on it.
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Pinche Rudo posted:https://twitter.com/MeltzerSaidWhat/status/1631511901766053889?s=20 You can tell when someone's a fan of Dave because they are constantly shuffling papers, and can't get make a point without a long anecdote about luchadores in the 90s.
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Mr. Squishy posted:You can tell when someone's a fan of Dave because they are constantly shuffling papers, and can't get make a point without a long anecdote about luchadores in the 90s. You know what today is? No Dave what is today? It's uh *shuffle* the uh *shuffle* 73rd anniversary of the second time little Tilly rollerson won the southwest regional invitational in the western conference of rollerderby ultra.
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The_Rob posted:Yeah I truly don’t think it looked dumb. Hobbes was so powerful that he broke the ladder. He then told the refs to hold the ladder. What am I missing here why does it look dumb. This is how I saw it, thought it was pretty obvious and easy to figure out. Never underestimate the stupidity and/or feigned ignorance of the most vocal online wrestleposting dorks.
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for $119.99/year you can get the most knowledgable you've ever received
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Sure, you COULD make the argument that it looked dumb and broke the illusion of “sports” to have the referees, who are supposed to be impartial, hold the ladder for Hobbs, but have you considered this: P-P-P-POWERHOUSE
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weird how this is immersion breaking for some people but the ref opening the door of the steel cage (something so accepted in WWE that it's built into the mechanics of the video games) isn't.
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haunted bong posted:Sure, you COULD make the argument that it looked dumb and broke the illusion of “sports” to have the referees, who are supposed to be impartial, hold the ladder for Hobbs, but have you considered this: If they hold the ladders for everyone who tries to climb one by themselves, it's impartial.
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Hobbs would be the only contestant smart enough to make Alex Horne do part of the task
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Penguin Patrol posted:Hobbs would be the only contestant smart enough to make Alex Horne do part of the task Ricky would hire someone on his phone to come over and do the task for him.
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Sammy Guevara would be Nish Kumar levels of "hosed the task but everyone enjoyed it"
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Lamuella posted:weird how this is immersion breaking for some people but the ref opening the door of the steel cage (something so accepted in WWE that it's built into the mechanics of the video games) isn't. That's dumb too, but it's built into the match. Those are the rules. Like how you can run around the ring barrier and on the table in the Rumble as long as you don't touch the ground. There is no established rule that 4 referees need to race into the ring and hold up a ladder whenever someone tries to climb it.
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